Torid Charge Mechanism (Big Gas Cloud/more Damage)

[(PSN)DanteVincent]

Pellets work wonders with sonar ^^ it never fails to entertain me.I just dont go for the overextended as 29m seems fine as far as most rooms go imo.

[JacobLittle]

Though, I have to say, Forma is perhaps nice and all, but it would be nice if the Torid did get a big cloud. It' definitely deserves it despite what forma can do.

 

SO I approve of this idea. 

[JacobLittle]

Some is obvious by looking

 

Like the Amprex

 

It stunk at first but i knew once it had forma and crossed that 100% crit build without losing all of it damage itd be amazing

 

Some of them are secret jewels like the Tysis

Hey there, still think Torid should not get this buff with it's new Ammo pool?

[Azawarau]

Hey there, still think Torid should not get this buff with it's new Ammo pool?

I didnt say it shouldnt

 

I said we have to be careful because it can easily become as broken as the ogris

 

You really should learn to read and comprehend things before poking at things like this

[JacobLittle]

I didnt say it shouldnt

 

I said we have to be careful because it can easily become as broken as the ogris

 

You really should learn to read and comprehend things before poking at things like this

You have been trying to deny this Ogris this buff because there are no downsides to it. You want lower damage or slower reload or whatever before it even gets this buff and now I am asking if you still feel that way.

 

So ther eis no need for reading comprehension, perhaps something with memory since mine is poor.

[Azawarau]

You have been trying to deny this Ogris this buff because there are no downsides to it. You want lower damage or slower reload or whatever before it even gets this buff and now I am asking if you still feel that way.

 

So ther eis no need for reading comprehension, perhaps something with memory since mine is poor.

My first 3 posts were strictly  "be careful how its buffed, it may be too much" iirc .

 

I never said it didnt need a buff

 

I said its good when you forma it and its a forma dependent weapon because of the utilities it gets

 

You can have higher spread and better attack speed if you forma for it

 

Now that the Ammo is lowered it needs something to keep pace, but still not to overdo it the same way the Ogris and Penta were

 

If you cant understand this ill TL;DR it in the most basic way i know possible

[JacobLittle]

My first 3 posts were strictly  "be careful how its buffed, it may be too much" iirc .

 

I never said it didnt need a buff

 

I said its good when you forma it and its a forma dependent weapon because of the utilities it gets

 

You can have higher spread and better attack speed if you forma for it

 

Now that the Ammo is lowered it needs something to keep pace, but still not to overdo it the same way the Ogris and Penta were

 

If you cant understand this ill TL;DR it in the most basic way i know possible

No, I said this buff, not a buff. I'm am talking about the huge cloud when charging. that buff you don't want for it w/o some drawback. Of course you want a buff which is why the guy asked you what buff you think it needs.

 

You don't seem to understand...

Edited August 9, 2014 by JacobLittle

[Tar_Spit_Fire]

My first 3 posts were strictly  "be careful how its buffed, it may be too much" iirc .

 

I never said it didnt need a buff

 

I said its good when you forma it and its a forma dependent weapon because of the utilities it gets

 

You can have higher spread and better attack speed if you forma for it

 

Now that the Ammo is lowered it needs something to keep pace, but still not to overdo it the same way the Ogris and Penta were

 

If you cant understand this ill TL;DR it in the most basic way i know possible

despite you are saying that how good your torid is... how op it will with just a single little buff... that thing is worthless now. the grenade impact deals more damage than the clouds and the ammo pool will be reduced soon*but it won't be a problem at all i guess* anyway would you mind showing me a video of your torid? *solo only*

Edited August 9, 2014 by Tar_Spit_Fire

[Azawarau]

No, I said this buff, not a buff. I'm am talking about the huge cloud when charging. that buff you don't want for it w/o some drawback. Of course you want a buff which is why the guy asked you what buff you think it needs.

 

You don't seem to understand...

Its not that i want a drawback

 

Its that with Speed trigger you can potentially make large spaces entirely untouchable

 

Youd be easily able to hide somewhere high with Zephyr and cloud T 4 defenses outside of aggro range or with loki and cloud spam more procs safely from th enemies face

 

Getting ogris tier damages without any effort

 

I want a buff for Torid

 

I dont want another broken tier weapon

 

despite you are saying that how good your torid is... how op it will with just a single little buff... that thing is worthless now. the grenade impact deals more damage than the clouds and the ammo pool will be reduced soon*but it won't be a problem at all i guess* anyway would you mind showing me a video of your torid? *solo only*

I never once said it was OP

 

Now youre putting words in my mouth

 

I always say its not bad with forma

 

Its a forma dependant weapon

 

I also dont owe anything to you

 

The Torid nerf is entirely unjustified and it needs a rebalance

 

Check out the recent Torid threads before continuing this ignorance and pettiness

[JacobLittle]

That does seem to be what the Torid is all about, defense, but you are not really thinking about things other than defense as this thing with building up gas clouds does nothing outside defense but waste that precious 20 ammo.

[Azawarau]

That does seem to be what the Torid is all about, defense, but you are not really thinking about things other than defense as this thing with building up gas clouds does nothing outside defense but waste that precious 20 ammo.

Ever use a choke point?

 

Imagine that with gas clouds and elec/radiation procs and ogris tier damage

[JacobLittle]

Well, no one asked for Ogris tier damage...

[JacobLittle]

Wonder how people feel about this now?

[Renegade343]

Wonder how people feel about this now?

It is alright, but still feels a bit bland for a Clan Tech explosive weapon compared to the Ogris. 

[JacobLittle]

i meant this idea...

[Renegade343]

i meant this idea...

The idea is good, but I have an alternative to it.