Ryanshow Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I see armor values on the wiki but what does 100 armor actually do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeybadger Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) I see armor values on the wiki but what does 100 armor actually do? Mitigated damage = Armor/(100+Armor). So an armor rating of 100 means you mitigated 50% damage done to health (and health ONLY). EDIT: Corrected formula name from "Received Damage" to "Mitigated Damage" Edited April 25, 2013 by honeybadger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InFlames Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Armor is something that makes your HP (once your shields are depleted) be drained slower as you take damage. The more armor the less HP the enemy takes you if your shields are depleted. The less armor the more HP the enemy will take you when your shields are depleted. So, armor has nothing to do with the shield it self, only works whenever the shield it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoRDxDeMoN Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Recieved damage = Armor/(100+Armor). So an armor rating of 100 means you take 50% damage to health (and health ONLY). So with 300 armor my received damage would be 300/400=75%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasRayya Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 In other words, it's better to up your shield cap and health, rather then armorbecause armor sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeybadger Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 So with 300 armor my received damage would be 300/400=75%? Whoops! You are correct. That formula is for damage mitigated! In your case, you are mitigating 75% damage. Derp, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoRDxDeMoN Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Whoops! You are correct. That formula is for damage mitigated! In your case, you are mitigating 75% damage. Derp, thanks. Then armor mods seem pretty pointless. Rhino has the highest base armor of 150, which gives him base 60% reduction. With a nearly maxed mod, it only increases his reduction by about 15%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeybadger Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Then armor mods seem pretty pointless. Rhino has the highest base armor of 150, which gives him base 60% reduction. With a nearly maxed mod, it only increases his reduction by about 15%. That is a fair assessment. Armor in its current state is, across the board, inferior to increased shield capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddlschlumpf Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Armor mods are only worth it on rhino and frost as you can get close to 300 armor which basically means you get health taken times 4 (with health globes being 4 times as effective). An interesting question at this point: With the frost helmet, do you get the armor mod additively or multiplacetively applied? That's a difference of around 50 armor. In the latter case, you could get frosts armor up to almost 400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InFlames Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Then armor mods seem pretty pointless. Rhino has the highest base armor of 150, which gives him base 60% reduction. With a nearly maxed mod, it only increases his reduction by about 15%. he also has base god mode for cheap ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanshow Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 Then armor mods seem pretty pointless. Rhino has the highest base armor of 150, which gives him base 60% reduction. With a nearly maxed mod, it only increases his reduction by about 15%. Ironically Frost gets the best armor in the game with his helmet on I believe. + 33% of base I assume for 50 more armor. 150 + 50 + 165(from maxed steel fiber) = 365 armor for 78% damage reduction in health. That's pretty formidable. HP / 1- DR = effective health I think... At 30 his effective health becomes slightly less than 1400 without any vitality mod. With maxed vitality that becomes... 3400? That sounds odd... Is it really that much? Thats more than formidable. That's a powerhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebat86 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Ironically Frost gets the best armor in the game with his helmet on I believe. + 33% of base I assume for 50 more armor. 150 + 50 + 165(from maxed steel fiber) = 365 armor for 78% damage reduction in health. That's pretty formidable. HP / 1- DR = effective health I think... At 30 his effective health becomes slightly less than 1400 without any vitality mod. With maxed vitality that becomes... 3400? That sounds odd... Is it really that much? Thats more than formidable. That's a powerhouse. That's what my math says too! He is so much better than Rhino sadly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddlschlumpf Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Rhino has iron skin...combined with efficiency and duration, that's unlimited invulnerability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanshow Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 Rhino has iron skin...combined with efficiency and duration, that's unlimited invulnerability. Dependant on energy to do so. Frost is passive. And snow globe gives functional invulnerability in most cases if you play your cards right.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddlschlumpf Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 that's why I mentioned efficiency and duration. Throw in an energy siphon and you are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InFlames Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Dependant on energy to do so. Frost is passive. And snow globe gives functional invulnerability in most cases if you play your cards right.. sadly your reply is invalid due to the point where snow globe costs 75 energy. so it's more expensive. And a rhino player can easily gather 2 energy orbs and get more 15 secs of god mode for cheap. And there is the part of the mods. There's Flow and Continuity. Oh right more? Energy Siphon. Free energy everyone! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanshow Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 sadly your reply is invalid due to the point where snow globe costs 75 energy. so it's more expensive. And a rhino player can easily gather 2 energy orbs and get more 15 secs of god mode for cheap. And there is the part of the mods. There's Flow and Continuity. Oh right more? Energy Siphon. Free energy everyone! :D http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Frost_%28Warframe%29 Is the wiki wrong? Snow globe is listed at 50 energy... Also snow globe I would argue is superior since it lasts 30 seconds, and has functional invulnerability for multiple party members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddlschlumpf Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Snow globe does not help against infested. And you cannot move around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adidasprime Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) Snow globe does cost 50 even though it says 75 energy on screen when cast. Edited April 26, 2013 by Adidasprime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonomicon Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Im quite sure Rhino will be nerfed relativly soon. I mean, we all understand that its too powerfull defensivly if used right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanshow Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 Snow globe does not help against infested. And you cannot move around. Everything that enters the AOE is slowed as if hit by a frost weapon... How does that not help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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