Armor. What Does It Do?

[Ryanshow]

I see armor values on the wiki but what does 100 armor actually do?

[honeybadger]

I see armor values on the wiki but what does 100 armor actually do?

Mitigated damage = Armor/(100+Armor).

 

So an armor rating of 100 means you mitigated 50% damage done to health (and health ONLY).

 

EDIT: Corrected formula name from "Received Damage" to "Mitigated Damage"

Edited April 25, 2013 by honeybadger

[InFlames]

Armor is something that makes your HP (once your shields are depleted) be drained slower as you take damage.

The more armor the less HP the enemy takes you if your shields are depleted.

The less armor the more HP the enemy will take you when your shields are depleted. 

So, armor has nothing to do with the shield it self, only works whenever the shield it's gone.

[LoRDxDeMoN]

Recieved damage = Armor/(100+Armor).

 

So an armor rating of 100 means you take 50% damage to health (and health ONLY).

 

So with 300 armor my received damage would be 300/400=75%?

[vasRayya]

In other words, it's better to up your shield cap and health, rather then armor

because armor sucks

[honeybadger]

So with 300 armor my received damage would be 300/400=75%?

Whoops!  You are correct.  That formula is for damage mitigated!

 

In your case, you are mitigating 75% damage.

 

Derp, thanks.

[LoRDxDeMoN]

Whoops!  You are correct.  That formula is for damage mitigated!

 

In your case, you are mitigating 75% damage.

 

Derp, thanks.

 

Then armor mods seem pretty pointless. Rhino has the highest base armor of 150, which gives him base 60% reduction. With a nearly maxed mod, it only increases his reduction by about 15%.

[honeybadger]

Then armor mods seem pretty pointless. Rhino has the highest base armor of 150, which gives him base 60% reduction. With a nearly maxed mod, it only increases his reduction by about 15%.

 

That is a fair assessment.  Armor in its current state is, across the board, inferior to increased shield capacity.

[Buddlschlumpf]

Armor mods are only worth it on rhino and frost as you can get close to 300 armor which basically means you get health taken times 4 (with health globes being 4 times as effective).

 

An interesting question at this point: With the frost helmet, do you get the armor mod additively or multiplacetively applied? That's a difference of around 50 armor. In the latter case, you could get frosts armor up to almost 400.

[InFlames]

Then armor mods seem pretty pointless. Rhino has the highest base armor of 150, which gives him base 60% reduction. With a nearly maxed mod, it only increases his reduction by about 15%.

 

he also has  base god mode for cheap ^^

[Ryanshow]

Then armor mods seem pretty pointless. Rhino has the highest base armor of 150, which gives him base 60% reduction. With a nearly maxed mod, it only increases his reduction by about 15%.

 

Ironically Frost gets the best armor in the game with his helmet on I believe. + 33% of base I assume for  50 more armor.

 

150 + 50 + 165(from maxed steel fiber) = 365 armor for

 

78% damage reduction in health. That's pretty formidable.

 

HP / 1- DR = effective health

 

I think...

 

At 30 his effective health becomes slightly less than 1400 without any vitality mod. With maxed vitality that becomes...

 

3400?

 

That sounds odd... Is it really that much? Thats more than formidable. That's a powerhouse.

[Firebat86]

Ironically Frost gets the best armor in the game with his helmet on I believe. + 33% of base I assume for  50 more armor.

 

150 + 50 + 165(from maxed steel fiber) = 365 armor for

 

78% damage reduction in health. That's pretty formidable.

 

HP / 1- DR = effective health

 

I think...

 

At 30 his effective health becomes slightly less than 1400 without any vitality mod. With maxed vitality that becomes...

 

3400?

 

That sounds odd... Is it really that much? Thats more than formidable. That's a powerhouse.

 

That's what my math says too!  He is so much better than Rhino sadly...

[Buddlschlumpf]

Rhino has iron skin...combined with efficiency and duration, that's unlimited invulnerability.

[Ryanshow]

Rhino has iron skin...combined with efficiency and duration, that's unlimited invulnerability.

 

Dependant on energy to do so. Frost is passive. And snow globe gives functional invulnerability in most cases if you play your cards right..

[Buddlschlumpf]

that's why I mentioned efficiency and duration. Throw in an energy siphon and you are fine.

[InFlames]

Dependant on energy to do so. Frost is passive. And snow globe gives functional invulnerability in most cases if you play your cards right..

 

sadly your reply is invalid due to the point where snow globe costs 75 energy. so it's more expensive.

And a rhino player can easily gather 2 energy orbs and get more 15 secs of god mode for cheap.

And there is the part of the mods. There's Flow and Continuity. Oh right more? Energy Siphon. Free energy everyone! :D

[Ryanshow]

sadly your reply is invalid due to the point where snow globe costs 75 energy. so it's more expensive.

And a rhino player can easily gather 2 energy orbs and get more 15 secs of god mode for cheap.

And there is the part of the mods. There's Flow and Continuity. Oh right more? Energy Siphon. Free energy everyone! :D

 

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Frost_%28Warframe%29

 

Is the wiki wrong?

 

Snow globe is listed at 50 energy...

 

Also snow globe I would argue is superior since it lasts 30 seconds, and has functional invulnerability for multiple party members.

[Buddlschlumpf]

Snow globe does not help against infested. And you cannot move around.

[Adidasprime]

Snow globe does cost 50 even though it says 75 energy on screen when cast.

Edited April 26, 2013 by Adidasprime

[Demonomicon]

Im quite sure Rhino will be nerfed relativly soon. I mean, we all understand that its too powerfull defensivly if used right.

[Ryanshow]

Snow globe does not help against infested. And you cannot move around.

 

Everything that enters the AOE is slowed as if hit by a frost weapon...

 

How does that not help?