Tetsmeha Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Sigh. You will do better in conversations if you read what is posted first, and stop assuming everyone but yourself is an idiot. My point still stands. If Tenno aren't dead from just extraction then it's safe to assume the ship protects him. Even if you can't see the panels enlose in Warframe, it's safe to assume it does based off the Dark Sector Trailer and that you're not dead everytime you finish a mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiawyr Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Sorry but your assessement of the video is, to put it bluntly, wrong. Those panels are still moving when the camera changes. You can not see anything resembling those two panels protruding from the bottom of the ship in a location that would suggest those are the same panels. There is every indication they finish covering the Tenno. Rewatch it. Right at 6:51 is when the panels stop moving although the ship continues moving for about 8 frames before the camera shifts. They have stopped moving when the camera changes, you can see a slight protruberance as the ship is pulling away. There is every indication that a demo video from five years ago is not a good example to use when we don't see it happening in-game, and is hardly going to be checked by the average player who watches the end-mission cinematic. It's still just a detail that needs a little attention to wrap up any loose ends or questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsmeha Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Rewatch it. Right at 6:51 is when the panels stop moving although the ship continues moving for about 8 frames before the camera shifts. They have stopped moving when the camera changes, you can see a slight protruberance as the ship is pulling away. There is every indication that a demo video from five years ago is not a good example to use when we don't see it happening in-game, and is hardly going to be checked by the average player who watches the end-mission cinematic. It's still just a detail that needs a little attention to wrap up any loose ends or questions. At 6:57 you get a horizontal view of the ship and there's no more protrusion. You almost might be mistaking it for the tail of the ship, which is the same ship design in warframe. So the trailer is pretty relevent because Warframe takes many ideas and is obviously inspired by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhynocerous Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Sigh. You will do better in conversations if you read what is posted first, and stop assuming everyone but yourself is an idiot. Saying "this might sound like nitpicking" doesn't automatically mean you're not nitpicking. That's like saying "This might sound racist but [lots of racism]" then complaining when someone calls you out on how racist you were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiawyr Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 My point still stands. If Tenno aren't dead from just extraction then it's safe to assume the ship protects him. Even if you can't see the panels enlose in Warframe, it's safe to assume it does based off the Dark Sector Trailer and that you're not dead everytime you finish a mission. Negative, ghostrider. As you said, you're assuming. When the ship takes off at the end of the mission, sometimes you can see mobs/your rescue NPC standing around. They don't stumble like they just got exposed to vacuum; using your logic, you could assume there isn't any vacuum there since the mobs aren't being hurt.. It's something that could stand some clarification in-game in one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiawyr Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Saying "this might sound like nitpicking" doesn't automatically mean you're not nitpicking. That's like saying "This might sound racist but [lots of racism]" then complaining when someone calls you out on how racist you were. It'd be more like someone saying, "Now this might sound racist but..." and the first response is someone saying "Now you're just being racist." The guy speaking is acknowledging it beforehand, but the guy listening only heard what he wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakalwe Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 It'd be more like someone saying, "Now this might sound racist but..." and the first response is someone saying "Now you're just being racist." The guy speaking is acknowledging it beforehand, but the guy listening only heard what he wanted to. Did someone say nitpick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsmeha Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Negative, ghostrider. As you said, you're assuming. When the ship takes off at the end of the mission, sometimes you can see mobs/your rescue NPC standing around. They don't stumble like they just got exposed to vacuum; using your logic, you could assume there isn't any vacuum there since the mobs aren't being hurt.. It's something that could stand some clarification in-game in one way or another. Enemies don't stumble when airlocks are broken, only the players. Also, i'm pretty sure they don't get damaged just the players.. You also don't see anything besides particle effects being sucked up when glass is broken so your point is moot. And the AI just standing around is just the AI being the AI. I agree with you that there's a lot of detail missing there regarding the enemies still being active or moving around in the cutscene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bit Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Err I once had a bug where the post-match level up and items obtained window didn't show during the extraction cutscene and I can confidently say that I clearly saw a kind of double door closing up on my excalibur a bit after the extraction ship detaches from the 'doorway'. Also, my opinion is that the decompression effects are still a little lacklustre. I'd like to at least see objects/bodies near the broken window get sucked out of the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhynocerous Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 It'd be more like someone saying, "Now this might sound racist but..." and the first response is someone saying "Now you're just being racist." The guy speaking is acknowledging it beforehand, but the guy listening only heard what he wanted to. Saying "this might sound racist" suggests that the person thinks it's not actually racist and just sounds that way, which doesn't somehow make you immune to being called out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiawyr Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Did someone say nitpick? Now you're just nitpicking Indeed. Enemies don't stumble when airlocks are broken, only the players. Also, i'm pretty sure they don't get damaged just the players.. You also don't see anything besides particle effects being sucked up when glass is broken so your point is moot. And the AI just standing around is just the AI being the AI. I agree with you that there's a lot of detail missing there regarding the enemies still being active or moving around in the cutscene. The glass is sucked out. The mobs are hurt when the effect is going on. The mobs stumble. I just took this for you. http://imgur.com/QQGD3 You can reproduce this effect for yourself. Go knock out a window with mobs around you. Do you even play the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiawyr Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Saying "this might sound racist" suggests that the person thinks it's not actually racist and just sounds that way, which doesn't somehow make you immune to being called out. Called out? Are you being serious? I flat out stated that it was nitpicking on the details. Are you immune to reading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakalwe Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Some people don't seem to realise conversations like these work better when you treat each other with respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsmeha Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Called out? Are you being serious? I flat out stated that it was nitpicking on the details. Are you immune to reading? Just to be clear you said you "might" which implys even you were uncertain, so it's not considered a statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiawyr Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Just to be clear you said you "might" which implys even you were uncertain, so it's not considered a statement. Sounds like you're just nitpicking on details. After all this is said and done, simple things remain: the effects of vacuum on the Tenno and in general are not presented in a consistent manner in-game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcanumMBD Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Err I once had a bug where the post-match level up and items obtained window didn't show during the extraction cutscene and I can confidently say that I clearly saw a kind of double door closing up on my excalibur a bit after the extraction ship detaches from the 'doorway'. Thank you 0bit! I'm glad someone was able to clear that up. Anyway I am ducking out of this thread because it has devolved into arguing over semantics and tiny nuances, as what seems to often happen when Wiawyr posts in a thread. If anyone needs me I'll be over here with Occam's Razor ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]jaywalker Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I get the last (5) word(s) here. Skating on thin ice Wiawyr... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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