Dogefighter Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Oh, Smogon. That still available online? Yeah Smogon, Pokemon Showdown You make an account by creating a username, then clicking register under settings in the top right hand corner I currently have 5 teams on there, 4 of which are experimental I do alright, i have about a 50/50 win/loss rate. Personally, i blame unbound hoopa and landorous, but that's just me. You should make an account on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Yeah Smogon, Pokemon Showdown You make an account by creating a username, then clicking register under settings in the top right hand corner I currently have 5 teams on there, 4 of which are experimental I do alright, i have about a 50/50 win/loss rate. Personally, i blame unbound hoopa and landorous, but that's just me. You should make an account on there. Maybe, if I wasn't subscribed to three games already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Maybe, if I wasn't subscribed to three games already. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 What? Warframe, Runescape, and Terraria. I'm not sure I can bear a fourth game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Warframe, Runescape, and Terraria. I'm not sure I can bear a fourth game. You don't have to play it though You already have access to everything, and it's browser based You just choose your pokes, your moves, your items, EVs, IVs, and your abilities Basically you just make a team and you can fight with it if you feel like it There's no metagame to keep up with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 You don't have to play it though You already have access to everything, and it's browser based You just choose your pokes, your moves, your items, EVs, IVs, and your abilities Basically you just make a team and you can fight with it if you feel like it There's no metagame to keep up with Is that so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Is that so? Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Yup Hmm... might be worth a look, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Hmm... might be worth a look, then. Yup If you decide to make a team, be sure to register And then copy the text from the import/export button in the teambuilder, that's how you can save teams manually (i think it autosaves to your account unless in incognito mode) Be sure to tell me, i'll fite you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Yup If you decide to make a team, be sure to register And then copy the text from the import/export button in the teambuilder, that's how you can save teams manually (i think it autosaves to your account unless in incognito mode) Be sure to tell me, i'll fite you One day, when I fully understand the mysteries of accuracy in Warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 One day, when I fully understand the mysteries of accuracy in Warframe. I have a fairly good idea Ask away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I have a fairly good idea Ask away How would you link up Heavy Caliber accuracy decrease to the accuracy value shown in the Warframe UI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 How would you link up Heavy Caliber accuracy decrease to the accuracy value shown in the Warframe UI? Well, i'm not entirely sure, give me a couple of minutes and i'll do some research for you Although, if to be completely honest I wouldn't use it on anything that isn't a beam weapon, as beam weapons have perfect accuracy. Same rule applies with magnum force on secondaries. Beam weapons with perfect accuracy aren't affected. I'll get back to you in just a bit on the other guns though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Well, i'm not entirely sure, give me a couple of minutes and i'll do some research for you Thing is, I've done my research, and found out that: - Accuracy values and associated changes with Heavy Caliber are not affected by different weapon properties, and they follow a single function. - Recoil does not affect accuracy values and spread at all. The problem is trying to link the values of Heavy Caliber to all the values I have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Okay. Here's what i've gathered. Weapon accuracy is not hampered on perfect (100%) accuracy weapons When added to weapons with less than perfect accuracy, it's supposed to subrtact 5% accuracy per mod level, though it varies in actuality per weapon so as to not give low accuracy weapons ridiculously low game breaking accuracy In essence, i believe it's percentage based. I still would only use it on perfect weapons. Also, don't use it on split chamber bows, the arrows will often split away from eachother, and i'm given to understand that only one will crit in that scenario I could be wrong about the specifics, but i do know it affects perfect accuracy weapons in the manner i stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Weapon accuracy is not hampered on perfect (100%) accuracy weapons That much almost everyone knows of. When added to weapons with less than perfect accuracy, it's supposed to subrtact 5% accuracy per mod level, though it varies in actuality per weapon so as to not give low accuracy weapons ridiculously low game breaking accuracy I suspect that it follows an exponential function, as I did post that result in the forums here, and that in actuality, the accuracy values shown in the Warframe UI is the same throughout all weapons, regardless of projectile type, automatic, semi-automatic and whatnot. The difference between accuracy ratings also seems to plateau somewhere, but I'm still finding that point. In essence, i believe it's percentage based. I still would only use it on perfect weapons. I am also hypothesising that, but what I like to know is: What is that percentage based on? What value is being manipulated by the Heavy Caliber accuracy decrease? Also, don't use it on split chamber bows, the arrows will often split away from eachother, and i'm given to understand that only one will crit in that scenario That much I know too from other players. I could be wrong about the specifics, but i do know it affects perfect accuracy weapons in the manner i stated. I can also confirm that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 That much almost everyone knows of. I suspect that it follows an exponential function, as I did post that result in the forums here, and that in actuality, the accuracy values shown in the Warframe UI is the same throughout all weapons, regardless of projectile type, automatic, semi-automatic and whatnot. The difference between accuracy ratings also seems to plateau somewhere, but I'm still finding that point. I am also hypothesising that, but what I like to know is: What is that percentage based on? What value is being manipulated by the Heavy Caliber accuracy decrease? That much I know too from other players. I can also confirm that. sounds about right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 sounds about right Which is a small problem, because I am not too sure where to go next. I could refine data, but I would need a bit more new material to go forward. I wonder if the developers would be willing to open the answer someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 You know i had a funny though I was thinking of the 3 frames people would least want to play And i thought Frost, because he primarily defends Trinity, because she's primariy a healer and Ember, because people think other frames do her job better Meanwhile i main Frost Prime, Ember Prime, and Trinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 You know i had a funny though I was thinking of the 3 frames people would least want to play And i thought Frost, because he primarily defends Trinity, because she's primariy a healer and Ember, because people think other frames do her job better Meanwhile i main Frost Prime, Ember Prime, and Trinity. Well, I'm MR 13 and still no Prime Warframes for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Which is a small problem, because I am not too sure where to go next. I could refine data, but I would need a bit more new material to go forward. I wonder if the developers would be willing to open the answer someday. Honestly it'd probably be easier just to throw it on, hop in the simulacrum simulator or a low tier mission, and see how it goes Well, I'm MR 13 and still no Prime Warframes for me. Get yourself an Ember Prime She's incredibly good if built right She's a fast moving glass cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Honestly it'd probably be easier just to throw it on, hop in the simulacrum simulator or a low tier mission, and see how it goes Except I've done that, and I'm out of ideas for now. Get yourself an Ember Prime She's incredibly good if built right She's a fast moving glass cannon Honestly, I only use abilities starting at Levels 35+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Except I've done that, and I'm out of ideas for now. Honestly, I only use abilities starting at Levels 35+. She's good for just about anything Accelerant + WoF or Fire Blast destroys Even when it stops doing massive damage, I have the WoF augment that guaruntees knockdown / stagger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 She's good for just about anything Accelerant + WoF or Fire Blast destroys Even when it stops doing massive damage, I have the WoF augment that guaruntees knockdown / stagger I tend to end up sticking to guns and melee weapons for the majority of gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 I tend to end up sticking to guns and melee weapons for the majority of gameplay. I use shotguns, primarily And a Jat Kittag On Ember Prime I use her in close combat. Get in fast, maybe use WoF, shotgun some people in the throat, send people 3-500 meters away and/or spiraling into the ceiling for 10 seconds with the jat kittag A very nice combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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