KnowingQuasar Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) Having done some speed-runs of both the Law of Retribution Trial and the Jordas Verdict Trial, it seems to me that the times found on the Warframe website are not attainable anymore. Especially the Law of Retribution. Personally my best time is 24 minutes on a nightmare LoR, but the top time is half of that! Moreover, I looked at some videos of the top speed-runs and they used bugs in order to get their times. I don't think that this is a fair system for keeping accurate record of top times for Trials, where the top times are held by speed-runs using bugs that have been patched out of the Trial, making any attempt at these times futile. I don't know whether they should be reset monthly, after major hotfixes, weekly, or some other solution, but I think that any type of reset would add some more competition to the Warframe Trials, and would keep at least me engaged in doing them. Not only that, but the records are oddly formatted or incorrect, yet again warranting a reset of the best-time record pages (especially LoR). Look at these times in the links for each Trial type, they're absolutely unattainable anymore! LoR (Normal) - http://content.warframe.com/dynamic/trialStatsArchive.php LoR (Nightmare) - http://content.warframe.com/dynamic/trialNightmareStatsArchive.php JV - http://content.warframe.com/dynamic/trialGolemArchive.php If I can find videos of some of the top times, I'll post them here, so the bugs used to get that time can be seen. JV (This isn't a top time as it didn't pass all flags, but some bugs were able to be used and get on the WF leaderboards): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftoq1GF-aFk The video below is actually how a speed-run of JV should go, but is still far below the top time: Edited February 24, 2016 by KnowingQuasar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglriousB Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I wouldnt post this in introductions, mate, as it clearly isn't an introduction. This topic needs to be moved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowingQuasar Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 Whoops, new forums must be throwing me off. You are completely correct, this topic should be moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dicht.Amducias- Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 i am currently holding the normal and nightmare record and i can tell you that we didnt use any bugs.. you can easily do 12 minute runs, 11 minutes is very hard and you need a lot of luck at the 2nd phase pads and the map you get at phase 3 to come into the boss room as fast as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dicht.Amducias- Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 additionally we were achieving the record recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dicht.Amducias- Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I would be okay with a reset though, since the dynamic trial site is listing the records in a weird way anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dicht.Amducias- Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 i am currently holding the normal and nightmare record and i can tell you that we didnt use any bugs.. you can easily do 12 minute runs, 11 minutes is very hard and you need a lot of luck at the 2nd phase pads and the map you get at phase 3 to come into the boss room as fast as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowingQuasar Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 Hmmm. As far as using bugs, that was aimed more towards the Jordas Verdict Trial times. With LoR (both types) especially, the records page is extremely broken and could do with a reset/overhaul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dicht.Amducias- Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 10 minutes ago, KnowingQuasar said: Hmmm. As far as using bugs, that was aimed more towards the Jordas Verdict Trial times. With LoR (both types) especially, the records page is extremely broken and could do with a reset/overhaul. Yep jv is pure bugusing, but it doesnt count as a record with most bugs, but yes i agree that you can still get a good jv time with some bugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowingQuasar Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 I think another reason to reset the times monthly or bi-monthly is that the leaderboards get so clogged with speed-runners, that it is nearly impossible to stay on the boards for long. It would be nice to see them cleaned out every once in a while to rejuvenate speed-running the Trials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necrius Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Oh, about best-time records. Global records from dojo obstacle course should be reset or even removed. I don't really wanna see a list of filthy cheaters with 0:01 results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dicht.Amducias- Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 8 hours ago, Necrius said: Oh, about best-time records. Global records from dojo obstacle course should be reset or even removed. I don't really wanna see a list of filthy cheaters with 0:01 results. Thats not a cheat though :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowingQuasar Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 14 hours ago, -dicht.Amducias- said: Thats not a cheat though :p Heh, the obstacle course 0.1s times are done through breaking the dueling room right? I think even if they reset those weekly, it wouldn't really change things. I think in order to make obstacle course runs more legitimate, they honestly need to redo the room to match the new parkour. On topic, it might even be nice to include a separate board that shows all of your personal top runs at any of the Trials, but have the global boards reset monthly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-dicht.Amducias- Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, KnowingQuasar said: Heh, the obstacle course 0.1s times are done through breaking the dueling room right? I think even if they reset those weekly, it wouldn't really change things. I think in order to make obstacle course runs more legitimate, they honestly need to redo the room to match the new parkour. On topic, it might even be nice to include a separate board that shows all of your personal top runs at any of the Trials, but have the global boards reset monthly. The trick is that you have a short time after activating the start console, you can roll backwards into the end line before you got teleported into the course, if you hit the right timing you can get 0.01s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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