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Interesting. As someone fond of exploring the Sith side of Star Wars, I think this heavily depends on which Sith he's fighting.

First, Stalker, Shadow Stalker to be more precise, can adapt to incoming damage. Meaning that if he survives an attack, he can become highly resistant to it. Here enters a speed factor.

If a rather skilled Sith uses force pull and a slash to the neck, Stalker is dead in a second. "Why would a warframe armor not resist a light saber?" Well I believe that warframes wouldn't be lightsaber-proof because we can see them being charred to nothing by fire damage (when killed by fire), and a light saber isn't actually plasma like many believe, but have an energy that generates massive heat in contact. So unless Stalker takes a non killing blow as first attack, maybe he could adapt to resist it, although I don't know to what extent.

Then force powers. The force is bound to everything that is alive, and thus one can't be inmune to it while being alive, but it also affects all forms of matter, so the mere fact of existing makes you vulnerable to it. To be resistant to it is possible, but again Stalker should have to adapt. Again pointing towards speed. Assuming a warframe has basic organic functions, snapping its neck is enough to kill one (just an assumption. Until DE states what the hek warframe exactly are, this remains possible), or if it has vital organs, the force crush or force kill are enough to "one-shot" Stalker. If that is not the case, however, telekinesis can be used to inflict damage normally. I don't know how resistant Stalker could grow to telekinesis tho, since it's basically power over matter itself.

For the classic force lighting, now depends on its intensity. In star wars lore it's said that some force lighting user could burn down completely someone by using it. Such intensity could leave Stalker little to no time to resist it. While regular force lighting would prove ineffective against him, as it is, after all, just electricity.

What would a Sith do against him? Well, Stalker isn't actually very powerful. He's just highly resistant. He isn't very fast nor his attacks have a huge reach. And considering the ingame blocking mechanic that a weapon can greatly reduce incoming damage, a light saber block could counter Stalker, and a force barrier, make him useless.

I'd give the victory to a powerful Sith Lord (apprentices are useless, and strong ones such as Starkiller simply annihilate him in one hit) because a Sith has a much more vast repertory of attacks, all of which are in essence, stronger than the guns we use, and it wouldn't take any Sith with access to force speed much effort to avoid Stalker.

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If the force is a power, doesn't have to be Void, then Stalker should be able to take them away, he can also teleport you. Also in game mechanics are obviously toned down for the sake of balance. Using lore makes more sense because if not then I could just say "he's level 9999"

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4 minutes ago, (XB1)A Frikn Grizzly said:

And I'm sure those work exactly like Force.

My point is they are not void based powers. So stalker is capable of adapting to powers that are not void based. This leads to speculation on if stalker is capable of adapting to the force.

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2 hours ago, Aimop95 said:

My point is they are not void based powers. So stalker is capable of adapting to powers that are not void based. This leads to speculation on if stalker is capable of adapting to the force.

"That's not how the Force works!" -Han Solo

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43 minutes ago, (XB1)A Frikn Grizzly said:

That's irrelevant. The Force is supernatural, Void energy is just really strong power that can do weird sh*t.

Void energy is supernatural as far as the Orokin are concerned. The Orokin literally were the apex of a technological civilization and they had no idea how to explain it. They went so far as to call beings who were infused with it "devils" and "demons". We don't know the properties of the Void, so saying it could not match up to the Force unsubstantiated

26 minutes ago, (PS4)bddacres said:

the void has never been used on a jedi 

So what we have here is that we don't know. For all we know Jedi cannot dissipate Void energy so they fall prey to Mesa or any Warframe caster. Same goes for the Warframes.

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13 hours ago, Aimop95 said:

Void energy is supernatural as far as the Orokin are concerned. The Orokin literally were the apex of a technological civilization and they had no idea how to explain it. They went so far as to call beings who were infused with it "devils" and "demons". We don't know the properties of the Void, so saying it could not match up to the Force unsubstantiated

So what we have here is that we don't know. For all we know Jedi cannot dissipate Void energy so they fall prey to Mesa or any Warframe caster. Same goes for the Warframes.

"People are afraid of what they don't understand." -I have no idea who originally said that

They didn't understand the Void, so they believe it to be supernatural, whereas the Force, actually is. It's literally a religion, and entirely different from Void energy. Void energy comes from the Void, the Force is in everything.

 

A Lightsaber could easily block peacemaker. Or that baller hand-deflect thing some Jedi and Sith demonstrate in the movies.

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14 hours ago, Aimop95 said:

Void energy is supernatural as far as the Orokin are concerned. The Orokin literally were the apex of a technological civilization and they had no idea how to explain it. They went so far as to call beings who were infused with it "devils" and "demons". We don't know the properties of the Void, so saying it could not match up to the Force unsubstantiated

So what we have here is that we don't know. For all we know Jedi cannot dissipate Void energy so they fall prey to Mesa or any Warframe caster. Same goes for the Warframes.

The problem is that your overhyping void energy because your assuming that its the most devastating thing known to the multivverse but, you have to consider this

  1. The tenno cant control this energy enough to use it
  2. Warframes have set abilities where as Sith can study multiple areas
  3. Force Lightning is powerful enough to incinerate its foes 
  4. Force Kill allows you to kill someone with a thought
  5. Battle comes down to which sith and which warframe go head to head

In contrast

  1. Tenno have to be found and killed to be truly eliminated
  2. Weapons like War and gram are on par with lightsabers
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1. The Second Dream 2. We can deploy a massive arsenal of Warframes and weapons making then disposable and interchangeable 3. Nova manipulates Anti-matter which annihilates regular matter when they come in contact 4. Frames spawn swords behind and stab you with them some can give you the flu and ebola not to mention lock foes in alternate dimensions. 5. We don't actually know how powerful the Void is so we can't really overhype it. Either way this discussions has made me hate Star Wars lore it just seems like "Hey here's the easiest explanation we could come up with ,THE FORCE. It just does"  

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Just now, (PS4)Pinguin_ops said:

1. The Second Dream 2. We can deploy a massive arsenal of Warframes and weapons making then disposable and interchangeable 3. Nova manipulates Anti-matter which annihilates regular matter when they come in contact 4. Frames spawn swords behind and stab you with them some can give you the flu and ebola not to mention lock foes in alternate dimensions. 5. We don't actually know how powerful the Void is so we can't really overhype it. Either way this discussions has made me hate Star Wars lore it just seems like "Hey here's the easiest explanation we could come up with ,THE FORCE. It just does"  

Don't mate.... The force is pretty op but it all depends on the user .It seems like the warframe automatically focus the tennnos power...really you have to compare a specific sithlord

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1 hour ago, (PS4)bddacres said:

The problem is that your overhyping void energy because your assuming that its the most devastating thing known to the multivverse but, you have to consider this

  1. The tenno cant control this energy enough to use it
  2. Warframes have set abilities where as Sith can study multiple areas
  3. Force Lightning is powerful enough to incinerate its foes 
  4. Force Kill allows you to kill someone with a thought
  5. Battle comes down to which sith and which warframe go head to head

In contrast

  1. Tenno have to be found and killed to be truly eliminated
  2. Weapons like War and gram are on par with lightsabers

Void energy can kill Sentients that were literally undefeatable and could not be killed using any other means developed by the smartest people in the universe. Void energy is pure death. Tenno are known as warrior gods if a Tenno(lore wise) faced a ditch lord it's a near curb stomp. Void energy and the Tenno are so ridiculously OP it's insane before you argue please look at all the lore and don't just look at heavily inaccurate gameplay.  

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you are asking a very vague question, what do you mean by Sith Lord?

Sith Lord have very different levels of caliber, there could be Sith Lords that could be taken down by a small team of troopers

There are Sith Lords that could rip time and space apart

There are Sith Lords that could destroy planets

There are Sith Lords who could Siphon all life just by being present on the planet

So, be specific what caliber of Sith Lords are we talking about?

 

But in case I guess you are comparing Galen to Stalker, the Stalker have zero chance. 

If the War can be broken just by the Tenno ripping it from his body, and the War can easily piece through the warframe; a single lightsaber cut is enough to take the Stalker apart.

Galen as a very skilled warrior especially in aggressive saber form such as Form IV and VII, the Stalker have nothing but the element of surprise, if he #*($%%@ up on his first strike he's dead. 

But since the Stalker always announce his assassination to his target before he attempt his assassination, I'd say Stalker could very possible be dead before he teleport to the battleground by Galen's force choke.

In any case, Galen's potential in the force is lucrative, Galen's physical ability has always been pushed beyond his edge, Galen is one of the very few that are gifted in the force, and actually being trained as a weapon plus actual battle experience. This is why Star Wars fans find talking about Galen kind of weird, it's too difficult to place him on the power chart, he's indeed extremely powerful, but his story from the video game is too short to completely build up the credit he deserved to be respected by everyone. His life was full of pain, rage, anger, and hate, but in the same time he is capable of fully harness those emotions to the point where he can break free from the dark side to the light side. 

 

Kind of off topic in this off topic post tho. 

In short, the Stalker is very weak in terms of a video game character.

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1 minute ago, Valteria. said:

you are asking very vague question, what do you mean by Sith Lord?

Sith Lord have very different levels of caliber, there could be Sith Lords that could be taken down by a small team of troopers

There are Sith Lord that could rip time and space apart

There are Sith Lord that could destroy planets

There are Sith Lord who could Siphon all life just by being present on the planet

So, be specific what caliber of Sith Lord are we talking about?

 

But in case I guess you are comparing Galen to Stalker, the Stalker have zero chance. 

If the War can be broken just by the Tenno ripping it from his body, and the War can easily piece through the warframe; a single lightsaber cut is enough to take the Stalker apart.

Galen as a very skilled warrior especially in aggressive saber form such as Form IV and VII, the Stalker have nothing but the element of surprise, if he #*($%%@ up on his strike he's dead. 

But since the Stalker always announce his assassination to his target before he attempt his assassination, I'd say Stalker could very possible be dead before he teleport to the battleground by Galen's force choke.

In any case, Galen's potential in the force is lucrative, Galen's physical ability has always been pushed beyond his edge, Galen is one of the very few that are gifted in the force, and actually being trained as a weapon plus actual battle experience. This is why Star Wars fans find talking about Galen kind of weird, it's too difficult to place him on the power chart, he's indeed extremely powerful, but his story from the video game is too short to completely build up the credit he deserved to be respected by everyone. His life was full of pain, rage, anger, and hate, but in the same time he is capable of fully harness those emotion to the point where he can break free from the dark side to the light side. 

 

Kind of off topic in this off topic post tho. 

In short, the Stalker is very weak in terms of a video game character.

Read the novelization...........

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1 minute ago, (PS4)bddacres said:

Read the novelization...........

You can read the novels and go on forums to argue on posts like this one which I can learn everything in a condense version without paying a penny.

In any case, what's your point?  

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