(PSN)Xx-Ribbium-xX Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Certain abilities like slash dash and invisibility should have a cool down to stop them from being used annoyingly who else agrees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Skaro- Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Invisibility is only thing that keeps loki alive, so no. And slash dash is meant to be spammed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extroah Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Slashdash isnt even doing enough damage to be a problem imho (im playing a shashdash build excal). Also you'd have to aim at each enemy seperately most of the times, so its hard to be annoying with it. Bladestorm would be more of an issue in terms of being annoying imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzjdriel Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 This isn't a Korean MMO. Skills are made to be spammed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Xx-Ribbium-xX Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, lolkins1122 said: Invisibility is only thing that keeps loki alive, so no. And slash dash is meant to be spammed. No skill and speed is what keeps Loki alive invisible is what allows him to sneak up on people or to use when he is low on health to escape i understand why you think this but it gets really annoying when a Loki just constantly sits invisible and can still shoot and move at the speed he does no ability is meant to be spammed which is why de made desecrate a toggle ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Xx-Ribbium-xX Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, Extroah said: Slashdash isnt even doing enough damage to be a problem imho (im playing a shashdash build excal). Also you'd have to aim at each enemy seperately most of the times, so its hard to be annoying with it. Bladestorm would be more of an issue in terms of being annoying imho. Slash dash constantly staggers even when a player is bullet jumping up into the air vertically it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Skaro- Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, (PS4)Xx-Ribbium-xX said: No skill and speed is what keeps Loki alive invisible is what allows him to sneak up on people or to use when he is low on health to escape i understand why you think this but it gets really annoying when a Loki just constantly sits invisible and can still shoot and move at the speed he does no ability is meant to be spammed which is why de made desecrate a toggle ability And slash dash is totally useless without spamming. Edited October 20, 2016 by lolkins1122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Xx-Ribbium-xX Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 Just now, lolkins1122 said: Loki gets one-shotted on any high-level mission. And slash dash is totally useless without spamming. This is pvp we are talking about dude not pve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Skaro- Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Just now, (PS4)Xx-Ribbium-xX said: This is pvp we are talking about dude not pve I noticed it right after i posted lol But slash dash doesnt do much damage, so without spamming its only useful for mobility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Xx-Ribbium-xX Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 Just now, lolkins1122 said: I noticed it right after i posted lol But slash dash doesnt do much damage, so without spamming its only useful for mobility. It's actually quite bad for mobility dude it only moves you a few steps unless you have locked onto another player but that's where the problems are you can constantly stagger someone stopping them from escaping effectively immobilising them if you spam it which is why I want a 3-4 second cool down (I wou be happy with the cool down working only if you hit someone with it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varacal Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 what is it with players these days wanting to slow the game down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Xx-Ribbium-xX Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 Just now, Varacal said: what is it with players these days wanting to slow the game down? How am I slowing the game down? I'm merely wanting to stop power spamming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanghije Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 ATTENTION! This is a PvP thread, anything talked here regarding mechanics of gameplay only refers to PvP NOT PvE. If you have any suggestion referring to the topic of this thread post with reason; along with the understanding that some may or may not agree with you. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Skaro- Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, sanghije said: ATTENTION! This is a PvP thread, anything talked here regarding mechanics of gameplay only refers to PvP NOT PvE. If you have any suggestion referring to the topic of this thread post with reason; along with the understanding that some may or may not agree with you. Thank you. Yea i noticed its conclave after my second post. I didnt notice at first because this was on front page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighttide77 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Personally prefer that abilities are able to be cast back-to-back. I think abilities should be balanced around their ability to be cast so often, rather than restricting their use. Invis cast twice wouldn't be so bad if it were nerfed harder, like breaking out of invis when taking damage, or having a second of revealing while attacking or holding a charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Xx-Ribbium-xX Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 44 minutes ago, Nighttide77 said: Personally prefer that abilities are able to be cast back-to-back. I think abilities should be balanced around their ability to be cast so often, rather than restricting their use. Invis cast twice wouldn't be so bad if it were nerfed harder, like breaking out of invis when taking damage, or having a second of revealing while attacking or holding a charge. Just had a game full of inaros spamming his sand and an excal spamming his slash dash and another game with a guy using hysteria back to back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighttide77 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 4 hours ago, (PS4)Xx-Ribbium-xX said: Just had a game full of inaros spamming his sand and an excal spamming his slash dash and another game with a guy using hysteria back to back Lol, pocket sand, everywhere. Other than being mildly annoying, I don't see the harm in it. The Valkyr being able to constantly cast Hysteria seems a bit weird...it should require 100 energy to begin even if they end it early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0d3blooded Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 4 hours ago, (PS4)Xx-Ribbium-xX said: Just had a game full of inaros spamming his sand and an excal spamming his slash dash and another game with a guy using hysteria back to back That's more of a symptom of the huge boost DE gave to energy regen during the SoTR update. IIRC it went from 0.25/s to 0.75/s... Coincidentally power spamming became more prevalent. Cooldowns would really only hurt the flow of the game tbh. Especially if this is a PvP only "feature". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Xx-Ribbium-xX Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 10 hours ago, C0d3blooded said: That's more of a symptom of the huge boost DE gave to energy regen during the SoTR update. IIRC it went from 0.25/s to 0.75/s... Coincidentally power spamming became more prevalent. Cooldowns would really only hurt the flow of the game tbh. Especially if this is a PvP only "feature". it wouldnt slow anything down at all. powers are not needed in pvp are are there to give a player an edge in situations but still the cool down wouldnt be like 10 seconds or anything it would be between 3-5 seconds which allows players to escape or to retaliate without being caught with stagger or anything like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ali_AmmarKh Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 21 hours ago, (PS4)Xx-Ribbium-xX said: Just had a game full of inaros spamming his sand and an excal spamming his slash dash and another game with a guy using hysteria back to back Wasn't it our match? Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Xx-Ribbium-xX Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 14 hours ago, (PS4)Ali_AmmarKh said: Wasn't it our match? Lol. Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ali_AmmarKh Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 On October 21, 2016 at 4:15 AM, Nighttide77 said: Lol, pocket sand, everywhere. Other than being mildly annoying, I don't see the harm in it. The Valkyr being able to constantly cast Hysteria seems a bit weird...it should require 100 energy to begin even if they end it early. I was that valk, nighttide. I used a bug to get max energy in 8.5 sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighttide77 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 1 hour ago, (PS4)Ali_AmmarKh said: I was that valk, nighttide. I used a bug to get max energy in 8.5 sec Then...Ribbium's claims are not well-founded. You reported that bug, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ali_AmmarKh Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nighttide77 said: Then...Ribbium's claims are not well-founded. You reported that bug, right? Not yet. Edit: It work only when as a laggy client Edit 2: 300Ms or higher Edited October 22, 2016 by (PS4)Ali_AmmarKh Didn't want to post too much. derp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kromblite Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) I actually want ability cooldowns for an entirely different reason. Usually in PVP, I'm not the one getting to the energy first. That means that I have to handle my cheapest abilities the way I'd handle an ultimate in overwatch. The result is that I almost never touch my abilities. Now, one could say that this isn't a problem, because the focus of conclave is more on the gunplay than on the abilities. However, not only do I have objections to the PVP gunplay as well, but they're problems that would be greatly reduced through more frequent ability access. We really need some area denial, for example. Edited October 22, 2016 by Kromblite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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