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You think if i jump off my chair i'll die? Because that's how suicidal Steam and Warframe are currently making me.

 

I happily encountered a new error about "executable missing" http://prnt.sc/f1re34, after a long search and lots of videos with fixes that did me no good i just realized that the "Warframe.exe" file was missing for some reason and i copied it back from the copy i have of the game files and the "executable missing" error was fixed!

Guess who's back at it again with the Steam re-downloading Warframe which is RIGHT THERE in the Steamapps folder? YES MEEEEE! 

Here's a little review of my previous suffering: 

 

 

And well, it was fixed thanks to @Erocelec  but i seem to be encountering the same issue again after copying the missing Warframe.exe file into the original files. I tried to do the same fix again but it is not working, i tried to verify the game and nothing is fixed http://prnt.sc/f1rg33

My antivirus is off.    http://prnt.sc/f1s8gz 

Windows Defender is off   http://prnt.sc/f1s7rz

Firewall is off     http://prnt.sc/f1s86q

My steam is updated http://prntscr.com/f1s0zs 

This used to change after launching the game but now it doesn't change at all since i tried to do like the previous fix: http://prntscr.com/f1s1e2

 

Can someone share with me their updated appmanifest_23041 file information so that i can copy them into mine? I want to try this out as a fix

 

Can i sue Digital Extremes and Steam for my certain near death? "13 reasons Whyframe".

 

Help

pls

pl0x

welp

smh

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2 minutes ago, AzureFang1 said:

Bah, you got me pre-edit. Ah well.

Let me know how it goes after the redownload.

Eh. No. If i was able to redownload it i would have already. I'll just quit the game tbh its worth damn 3-4 days to redownload it while all its files are right there.

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Well, if that's truly your mindset, I wish you luck in the future. But one last parting tip from a fellow Steam user:

You're likely to run into more disappearing .exe games through Steam if you continue running Avira. It has to do with how Steamworks injects its control data and has a bad tendancy to trip overly aggressive heuristics such as Avira's.

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18 minutes ago, AzureFang1 said:

Well, if that's truly your mindset, I wish you luck in the future. But one last parting tip from a fellow Steam user:

You're likely to run into more disappearing .exe games through Steam if you continue running Avira. It has to do with how Steamworks injects its control data and has a bad tendancy to trip overly aggressive heuristics such as Avira's.

But, i have been using both since forever and i have never encountered any sort of issues besides with Warframe.

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30 minutes ago, Hurtzl said:

But, i have been using both since forever and i have never encountered any sort of issues besides with Warframe.

Just because it never happened before does not mean it can't happen in the future. There are two issues that factor into AV tripping - AV definition updates and Game updates. And both fall into the same trap: Heuristics.

Heuristics are, quite literally, an AV taking something, matching it to a database of possible matches, and guessing whether or not the file may potentially be a virus it has never encountered before. This is incredibly common with games made in GameMaker and Game Maker: Studio, for example, as the way those engines access memory falls very close to access patterns used by some past viruses. When AV definition updates are pushed, the new definitions "improve" the heuristic engine by giving it more "could be" targets, but this also trips more false-positive results until exceptions are also added to the database; when games update, especially through a secondary wrapper like Warframe's updater, a common "program altering program in memory" heuristic tends to trip, marking it as a possible new virus for review.

Avira is unique, as age can actually be a factor. As a "courtesy" to its customers, Avira purges old definitions every so often, to lower data use on updates. Problem with this is such purges remove heuristic learning, leading to repeated false-positives where none may have been in the past, as process patterns found safe in the past are no longer flagged safe.

Further, "disabling" real-time scanning in most AVs often does nothing, the engine still running in the background hooking and scanning processes. McAfee and Norton are notorious for this. Thus disabling Avira may not actually be stopping it from tripping, and leading to why I recommended uninstalling it to test.

As I previously stated, if you would rather not take the time, good luck on future endevors(sp?). But be warned, you are at risk of this happening in the future. Take it from someone with 24 years of PC experience, 12 years of professional technician experience, and ~17 years of virus/malware experience.

And if you don't believe me, Google "Steam Virus False-Positive" and see how many threads and articles pop up with the line "it's never happened before, why now?"

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1 hour ago, AzureFang1 said:

Just because it never happened before does not mean it can't happen in the future. There are two issues that factor into AV tripping - AV definition updates and Game updates. And both fall into the same trap: Heuristics.

Heuristics are, quite literally, an AV taking something, matching it to a database of possible matches, and guessing whether or not the file may potentially be a virus it has never encountered before. This is incredibly common with games made in GameMaker and Game Maker: Studio, for example, as the way those engines access memory falls very close to access patterns used by some past viruses. When AV definition updates are pushed, the new definitions "improve" the heuristic engine by giving it more "could be" targets, but this also trips more false-positive results until exceptions are also added to the database; when games update, especially through a secondary wrapper like Warframe's updater, a common "program altering program in memory" heuristic tends to trip, marking it as a possible new virus for review.

Avira is unique, as age can actually be a factor. As a "courtesy" to its customers, Avira purges old definitions every so often, to lower data use on updates. Problem with this is such purges remove heuristic learning, leading to repeated false-positives where none may have been in the past, as process patterns found safe in the past are no longer flagged safe.

Further, "disabling" real-time scanning in most AVs often does nothing, the engine still running in the background hooking and scanning processes. McAfee and Norton are notorious for this. Thus disabling Avira may not actually be stopping it from tripping, and leading to why I recommended uninstalling it to test.

As I previously stated, if you would rather not take the time, good luck on future endevors(sp?). But be warned, you are at risk of this happening in the future. Take it from someone with 24 years of PC experience, 12 years of professional technician experience, and ~17 years of virus/malware experience.

Well, i uninstalled Avira, reinstalling Steam. Last trial tbh.

I still keep getting the executable missing error?

There a set of files that keep going missing whenever i launch Waframe: http://prntscr.com/f1vvmt  http://prntscr.com/f1vvs9  http://prntscr.com/f1vvwv

 

I have removed every single Antivirus and whatever else program that can act as so.

 

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9 hours ago, Hurtzl said:

Well, i uninstalled Avira, reinstalling Steam. Last trial tbh.

I still keep getting the executable missing error?

There a set of files that keep going missing whenever i launch Waframe: http://prntscr.com/f1vvmt  http://prntscr.com/f1vvs9  http://prntscr.com/f1vvwv

 

I have removed every single Antivirus and whatever else program that can act as so.

 

Since you've posted that exact list of files that have been disappearing, I may have an idea of what is actually going on. If it were just executables, AV/AM would be the likely cause, but the fact that it includes text and a script file says otherwise.

Hiding your file list is making it really hard to diagnose the issue, but by your description I assume beyond the missing listed files, the rest of the directories after the disappearances look exactly as listed here?: https://steamdb.info/depot/230411/

Or are they missing as well?

Also, please feel free to reinstall Avira. Your recent screenshots have soundly ruled it out as the culprit, actually. To be honest, I'm not of the opinion that Steam itself may be the culprit.

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