Kyte Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 And makes you look silly. Congrats? I'd take you more seriously if you hadn't opened up with a fallacious slippery slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsubasakuroi Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Never knew that Raid was least played especially with how often it seems that M Prime on Mercury is recommended for ferrite runs... 18 Raid missions in this game, compared to 23 Rescue missions. Eh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strac_CRO Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) why just not add new missions to the planet by replacing SOME old? that way more mission types would be available and anyone can play mission types they like? Edited July 31, 2013 by Strac_CRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Harvest Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Lame Raid void missions are the only void missions worth doing. Quit being lame DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GemeSvev Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Removing raid is a bad move. Don't move badly DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asagiri Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 He's not attempting to make a good argument, he's mocking the people claiming they know better for a fact because reasons. And I saw several people say DE is wrong and give no proof other than they like raid and they disagree. DE has the numbers to back up their decision, random people on the internet do not so adamantly claiming DE is flat out wrong is just asinine. Do they have the numbers? Steve has lied about stuff before, I'd like to see the actual numbers instead of being told they're such and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reduxe Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Keep it in and just add the new game type. We need variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkDeadeye Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 They have actual numbers, you have personal observation. Guess which is right? They haven't disclosed those numbers, right now it's hyperbole as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyte Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Yeah. That's the straw that broke the camels back. They refuse to do anything to enrich the game experience, only add faux layers of complexity. All we've ever seen from the design team are more shields, more damage. They want to force you into 15-20 minutes per mission. They want to stretch everything they have out, as far as they can. And even these incremental updates are moving at a glacial pace as it is. "Glacial pace" he says. Have you seen the update frequency? I wish other games updated so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lensman Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 /signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukedu_ Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I'd take you more seriously if you hadn't opened up with a fallacious slippery slope. I'd take you more seriously if you had argued instead of CAPS LOCK YO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyte Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) Do they have the numbers? Steve has lied about stuff before, I'd like to see the actual numbers instead of being told they're such and such. If you're going to distrust his words then what's stopping him from just make up statistics from whole cloth? I'd take you more seriously if you had argued instead of CAPS LOCK YO. Go ahead and ignore the rest of my posts, Mr. Conveniently Tunneled Vision. Edited July 31, 2013 by Kyte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden11121 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 They do S#&$ like this to remove resource drop rate. Ever notice how there are Corpus Crewman suits inbetween the lockers? It's to make less resource dropping lockers spawn. Little things like that and this make the game turn into more of a grind.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xection9 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 i'm up, keep raid! ditch no shield and no map in nightmare mode :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyte Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 They do S#&$ like this to remove resource drop rate. Ever notice how there are Corpus Crewman suits inbetween the lockers? It's to make less resource dropping lockers spawn. Little things like that and this make the game turn into more of a grind.. Those lockers had never dropped anything in first place. They were props. So they replaced'em with something that wouldn't create false expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco_VW Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 keep raid don't kill it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkDeadeye Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) "Glacial pace" he says. Have you seen the update frequency? I wish other games updated so often. And how much has changed given the frequency of updates? How many updates also contained fixes, in response to things that were far, far too hastily implemented? That's why most games DONT have so MANY updates. They go through a lot of internal testing..so when they're released, they work. Update 7 was the last fundamental change this game saw. Edited July 31, 2013 by DirkDeadeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityMachina Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Ever notice how there are Corpus Crewman suits inbetween the lockers? It's to make less resource dropping lockers spawn. Yeah, because it's not like there were lockers that were greyed out and thus couldn't be opened no matter what before. Oh wait. There were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyte Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 And how much has changed given the frequency of updates? How many updates also contained fixes, in response to things that were far, far too hastily implemented? Update 7 was the last fundamental change this game saw. TOP LEL I'll ignore you now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashengo Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 If you're going to distrust his words then what's stopping him from just make up statistics from whole cloth? Go ahead and ignore the rest of my posts, Mr. Conveniently Tunneled Vision. It's not just that people distrust his words. He's been caught lying before. That makes your word with the community trash instantly. It seems rude to say it but it's true. That's trust you gotta build back up. That's not an easy road to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphaslider Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Remove raid remove raid make the hostage in rescue missions injured so they move even slower. Oh my goodness, we have too......cooperate with other people!!!!!!!! no!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukedu_ Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 If you're going to distrust his words then what's stopping him from just make up statistics from whole cloth? Go ahead and ignore the rest of my posts, Mr. Conveniently Tunneled Vision. Go ahead and ignore my previous answer to you and the fact that you never really answered someone that asked to see the numbers before your nice little post up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nubsawce Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) They have actual numbers, you have personal observation. Guess which is right? ...you would think, if it is really the least played mode, ANYBODY, SOMEBODY on this forum would be speaking up about how they hate raid and like rescue better. I do not recall, in my months of playing this game, anyone EVER liking rescue. Why would people do it if they hate it? I'm betting, like someone said before, that they're not counting solo games. Sure, everyone goes online to do damn rescues, because they're so absurdly difficult solo when the hostage would rather die than live. Edit: seeing as there is someone hardly literate above saying to remove raid and make rescue even more of an AI nightmare, I'm assuming he's trolling, but his lack of literacy makes me wonder. Edited July 31, 2013 by Nubsawce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruzu Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I'm guessing most of you enjoy quick mission types? These are my most played maps. Defense Mobile Defense Everything Else I get the entirety of my resources, mods, and affinity in Defense missions. Also, raid is more or less a clone of sabotage/capture. Why not add new content instead of keeping the same old generic stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphyx Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Do they have the numbers? Steve has lied about stuff before, I'd like to see the actual numbers instead of being told they're such and such. I don't see how they wouldn't have the numbers. They already have tons and tons of stat tracking and I can't imagine they DON'T have tracking for missions as that is where the major gameplay takes place. Whether their conclusion from those numbers is accurate is an entirely different matter. Why is raid the least played mode? Is it because people don't like it? Is it because there aren't enough raid missions? Is it because people just play through a planet once then move on or go back only for defense/mobile defense? These kinds of questions matter and they were not addressed. I trust that they know what they're doing and have thought about this enough to make an informed decision. Maybe they will elaborate on it a bit more but until then accusing them of simply lying is a bit ridiculous. I don't see DE as a malicious and sinister company that would bend facts to suit their wants/desires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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