SLI-fox Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 they're* and i fail to see how vauban ult is a -oh-#$%#-save-my-&#! sort of skill 'Oh S#&$! I'm tripping balls and these freaky dog things are trying to eat me. SAVE ME MAGIC DISCO BALL!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxdubin Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 'Oh S#&$! I'm tripping balls and these freaky dog things are trying to eat me. SAVE ME MAGIC DISCO BALL!' Vauban = the oh S#(%T frame 20000 enemies coming at you? Drop vortex Bounce away into the sun set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazmatzone Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 These threads should be turned into buffing other warframes. Because banshees ultimate only does like 30 damage against high level ancients. And honestly it is just pathetic IT IS JUST PATHETIC DE ITS PATHETIC ITS PATHETIC 30 DAMAGE? -snip- Excatlyyyy why does Nova have to be doing 30 damage for people to not think she's oped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetergentPod Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 This is PVE not PVP. Stop nerfing sh*t. If you don't like it don't use it. god dam. Nothing should be nerfed. Things should be buffed to match it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty5 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 After wave 40 or so MPrime has a hard time killing anything. The only reason it is any good after that point is that you can combine it with sonar and vortex to group up enemies for high damage Ogris shots. The entire purpose of Mprime is to set up a whole group of enemies for chain detonation. What you propose would make it pretty much one of the worst ultis in the game. I'd much rather see the range reduced and the slow removed. OP you sound like you are whining about a game where you were using an Ignis and a Nova killed everything and made you feel sad. Cry some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxdubin Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 After wave 40 or so MPrime has a hard time killing anything. The only reason it is any good after that point is that you can combine it with sonar and vortex to group up enemies for high damage Ogris shots. The entire purpose of Mprime is to set up a whole group of enemies for chain detonation. What you propose would make it pretty much one of the worst ultis in the game. I'd much rather see the range reduced and the slow removed. OP you sound like you are whining about a game where you were using an Ignis and a Nova killed everything and made you feel sad. Cry some more. AHAHAHAHHAAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxdubin Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Excatlyyyy why does Nova have to be doing 30 damage for people to not think she's oped? I mean other warframes need to do more damage Even rhino stomp does more damage then banshee sound quake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuroNekoXlll Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 This is PVE not PVP. Stop nerfing sh*t. If you don't like it don't use it. god dam. Nothing should be nerfed. Things should be buffed to match it. well either way works just one is alot less work buffing 13 warframes? my god thats alot of work vs nerfing 1 warframe, alright thats manageable and buffing all the frames makes everyone happy and all but then complaints about easyframe will start popping up and then grampaframes will start popping up as well rambling about "BACK BEFORE THE BUFFRAME, I WUZ...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilemyre Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) Have you experienced a nova in t3 void? Mprime can only be good on trash if they are not crowded together which isn't often with heavy units and trash. Last thing I want is a perfectly good frame becoming the next mag or volt. Edited August 6, 2013 by Palkora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazmatzone Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I mean other warframes need to do more damage Even rhino stomp does more damage then banshee sound quake. lol i know i just wanted people to realize that nerfing won't make their favorite frame better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XDeathCoreX Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 It appears this thread seems to show that when humans mess with things they don't understand, they get disastrous outcome. It's obvious NO ONE truly knows what to do with Nova, which is why others beg to buff other frames to her level. makes sense considering how old and frail the old dinosaur frames have become. The focus should be on the prehistoric and forgotten frames, not on a recently released frame. Before killing Nova, something much be done with older frames(Like Volt) falling behind the pack. Buff first, nerf everything later. It is when you buff, shall one see what truly needs a nerf, otherwise you get a sub par, yet new, frame(Which could be Nova and no one wants that). So ask yourself this, do you want to create yet another Nova hate thread asking for a nerf, suggesting how to nerf, or do you want to create a thread on creating a creative buff for your favorite warframe. think about it, wouldn't it be better if they focus on your favorite frame than on nova. If your frame comes first, you get to have more fun out of it real soon and not after Nova. rather than waste time of silly nerf threads, create positives threads on buffing prehistoric frames so the Devs know what you want or else another favorite skill you may love shall go the way of radial Blast...Getting replaced by a buff. And remember, Rhino and Saryns ultimate(Miasma) are just as powerful as Molecular Prime with Rhino Stomp having just as much range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosstnt Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 stop picking on Nova and make Banshee like she was when she 1st came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazmatzone Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 well either way works just one is alot less work buffing 13 warframes? my god thats alot of work vs nerfing 1 warframe, alright thats manageable and buffing all the frames makes everyone happy and all but then complaints about easyframe will start popping up and then grampaframes will start popping up as well rambling about "BACK BEFORE THE BUFFRAME, I WUZ...." the results for hardwork overweight the results of shortcuts and laziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetergentPod Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 well either way works just one is alot less work buffing 13 warframes? my god thats alot of work vs nerfing 1 warframe, alright thats manageable and buffing all the frames makes everyone happy and all but then complaints about easyframe will start popping up and then grampaframes will start popping up as well rambling about "BACK BEFORE THE BUFFRAME, I WUZ...." Nothing is actually op in terms of damage in this game. These people clearly never faced off against enemies higher than level 50 or 60. Which is why they're constantly crying over how op a skill or weapon is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XDeathCoreX Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 well either way works just one is alot less work buffing 13 warframes? my god thats alot of work vs nerfing 1 warframe, alright thats manageable and buffing all the frames makes everyone happy and all but then complaints about easyframe will start popping up and then grampaframes will start popping up as well rambling about "BACK BEFORE THE BUFFRAME, I WUZ...." Looks like your satisfied with the current condition of those 13 warframes and believe none of them need a buff or any changes at all. For shame... Someone like you in charge is why there are some things or characters in games that never change or get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuroNekoXlll Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Nothing is actually op in terms of damage in this game. These people clearly never faced off against enemies higher than level 50 or 60. Which is why they're constantly crying over how op a skill or weapon is. 50 or 60 isnt exactly the best examples to use.... since it is seen in xini m. prime does a good job killing stuff for like the first 20 rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuroNekoXlll Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Looks like your satisfied with the current condition of those 13 warframes and believe none of them need a buff or any changes at all. For shame... Someone like you in charge is why there are some things or characters in games that never change or get better. lol definitely not true rhino cant tank anymore lol i watch my iron skin fall about after 3 hits while that trinity is still going kratos on them corpus @ss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetergentPod Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 50 or 60 isnt exactly the best examples to use.... since it is seen in xini m. prime does a good job killing stuff for like the first 20 rounds Can't tell if it was 20 or 20 - 25. However eventually MPrime won't 1 shot ancients anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazmatzone Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Can't tell if it was 20 or 20 - 25. However eventually MPrime won't 1 shot ancients anymore. Once defense rewards begin to scale with how high you go 20-25 will be the average levels most people go to. Think about the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XDeathCoreX Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 It appears this thread seems to show that when humans mess with things they don't understand, they get disastrous outcome. It's obvious NO ONE truly knows what to do with Nova, which is why others beg to buff other frames to her level. makes sense considering how old and frail the old dinosaur frames have become. The focus should be on the prehistoric and forgotten frames, not on a recently released frame. Before killing Nova, something much be done with older frames(Like Volt) falling behind the pack. Buff first, nerf everything later. It is when you buff, shall one see what truly needs a nerf, otherwise you get a sub par, yet new, frame(Which could be Nova and no one wants that). So ask yourself this, do you want to create yet another Nova hate thread asking for a nerf, suggesting how to nerf, or do you want to create a thread on creating a creative buff for your favorite warframe. think about it, wouldn't it be better if they focus on your favorite frame than on nova. If your frame comes first, you get to have more fun out of it real soon and not after Nova. rather than waste time of silly nerf threads, create positives threads on buffing prehistoric frames so the Devs know what you want or else another favorite skill you may love shall go the way of radial Blast...Getting replaced by a buff. And remember, Rhino and Saryns ultimate(Miasma) are just as powerful as Molecular Prime with Rhino Stomp having just as much range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micotaru Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Nothing is actually op in terms of damage in this game. These people clearly never faced off against enemies higher than level 50 or 60. Which is why they're constantly crying over how op a skill or weapon is. Preeeetttyyy much this. Above level 70 MPrime becomes a utility skill more than a room clearing skill. A very very good utility. But it doesn't chain detonate grineer halfway back to their spawn. I ran the orokin cell alert on charon last night, level 70+ grineer mobile defense. Plenty of bodies, relatively small space, and I Molecular Prime spammed the same way I do on kappa. The difference? Unless a group was really tightly packed they weren't chainsploding. It was still very useful because it gave us x2 damage and did some damage anyway to the others, but we were very much not setting off vast lines of numbers up the stairs and beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxdubin Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Just to clear things up DE stated they will try to stop nerfing things Remember there new game plan is balance in positive meaning they will bring other frames to the meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazmatzone Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 -snip- Stop spamming your wall of text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetergentPod Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 It appears this thread seems to show that when humans mess with things they don't understand, they get disastrous outcome. It's obvious NO ONE truly knows what to do with Nova, which is why others beg to buff other frames to her level. makes sense considering how old and frail the old dinosaur frames have become. The focus should be on the prehistoric and forgotten frames, not on a recently released frame. Before killing Nova, something much be done with older frames(Like Volt) falling behind the pack. Buff first, nerf everything later. It is when you buff, shall one see what truly needs a nerf, otherwise you get a sub par, yet new, frame(Which could be Nova and no one wants that). So ask yourself this, do you want to create yet another Nova hate thread asking for a nerf, suggesting how to nerf, or do you want to create a thread on creating a creative buff for your favorite warframe. think about it, wouldn't it be better if they focus on your favorite frame than on nova. If your frame comes first, you get to have more fun out of it real soon and not after Nova. rather than waste time of silly nerf threads, create positives threads on buffing prehistoric frames so the Devs know what you want or else another favorite skill you may love shall go the way of radial Blast...Getting replaced by a buff. And remember, Rhino and Saryns ultimate(Miasma) are just as powerful as Molecular Prime with Rhino Stomp having just as much range. I haven't used Volt since CB where they fixed his Overload from clearing entire mission maps and 1 shotting everything. However another Frame you should of mention is Loki who is practically useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuroNekoXlll Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 And remember, Rhino and Saryns ultimate(Miasma) are just as powerful as Molecular Prime with Rhino Stomp having just as much range. well... rhinos ult hits once while the chain explosion has the possibility of hitting something multiple times just sayin :c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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