ocr111 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I already made a topic similar to this but this is a slightly different question. I am sure that many of you have seen the Warframe profile videos on youtube and when they use the abilities they have some epic particle effects. I was wondering if it was possible for the developers/animators etc to make these epic particle effects in game as just a normal feature without haveing to use a Nvidia Graphics card with those phsyx effects things whatever they are called. I would really like this. Could someone tell me if this is possible please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kittens- Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Possible? Yes. If you'd like to up the system requirements, they're perfectly possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocr111 Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 I mean there could be an option just to turn on the particles without needing a graphics card of somesort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3leaZ Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) Possible? Yes. If you'd like to up the system requirements, they're perfectly possible. You aren't very creative are you? Edited August 19, 2013 by R3leaZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kittens- Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Again, it's perfectly doable by a CPU of sufficient power, which would up the minimum system requirements substantially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kittens- Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 You aren't very creative are you? And you apparently haven't the slightest about bolting on API elements after the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhorge Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Again, it's perfectly doable by a CPU of sufficient power, which would up the minimum system requirements substantially. Yup. but then DE will have to drop whatever partnership they have with Nvidia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALL.CAPS.GUY Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I mean there could be an option just to turn on the particles without needing a graphics card of somesort without a powerful enough graphics card (complete with graphics processor and graphical ram) nothing is possible. the power produced by the separate processor and ram held on the gfx card make these games work. integrated graphics controllers just entirely lack the power, and as well, using system ram for graphical is a lot slower. so much so that it's not worth it. which brings me to: Again, it's perfectly doable by a CPU of sufficient power, which would up the minimum system requirements substantially. making physx run via other hardware would mean that hardware has to do "double duty" by processing the game, and it's graphical elements (which goes back to point 1 i made - in that using system ram and the cpu for graphical data is a lot slower than a dedicated cpu and ram) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhorge Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 This is the only reason why those particle effects only work with Nvidia cards: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kittens- Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 They don't HAVE to use Physx, but it's pretty clear they're currently in a partnership with nVidia, there are plenty of other competing solutions to use. Again, this would be both added expense and time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3leaZ Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) And you apparently haven't the slightest about bolting on API elements after the fact. You would be able to turn them off like any other graphics setting. Srsly, that's what I meant by not being creative. How can you not think of that? Every game has their low, medium, high settings. Sure Warframe has it like on/off but you get what Im trying to say. It wouldn't up the minimum system requirements. I have an nVidia card and I can turn Physx on and off. Physx isn't a permanent enabled feature in this game =_=. Disabling it gives quite the performance boost during battles. -snip- I dont have that on my page o: Edited August 19, 2013 by R3leaZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhorge Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I dont have that on my page o: It only appears on the homepage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3leaZ Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 It only appears on the homepage. Aha. Thx for that ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordAxeMace Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 They don't HAVE to use Physx, but it's pretty clear they're currently in a partnership with nVidia, there are plenty of other competing solutions to use. Again, this would be both added expense and time. Given the choice would anyone use anything else rather than PhysX? I mean, it's got a great API and we all know that it works seriously well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocr111 Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 To expensive cant the particles just be there without the need to have a fancy graphics card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kittens- Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Given the choice would anyone use anything else rather than PhysX? I mean, it's got a great API and we all know that it works seriously well To be platform agnostic and potentially future-proof is one possible benefit. You would be able to turn them off like any other graphics setting. Srsly, that's what I meant by not being creative. How can you not think of that? Every game has their low, medium, high settings. Sure Warframe has it like on/off but you get what Im trying to say. It wouldn't up the minimum system requirements. I have an nVidia card and I can turn Physx on and off. Physx isn't a permanent enabled feature in this game =_=. Disabling it gives quite the performance boost during battles. You have no idea what the topic actually entails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatsniper Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 To expensive cant the particles just be there without the need to have a fancy graphics card No. Only certain Nvidia video cards support it. Putting thousands of interactive particles in the world is not an easy thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3leaZ Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) To be platform agnostic and potentially future-proof is one possible benefit. You have no idea what the topic actually entails. Well that's quite a fail on my part. Had a translation problem and ended up digging my own grave rofl. My apologies. English isn't my native language so expect me to not only screw up once >_> Edited August 19, 2013 by R3leaZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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