(PSN)Mrseany247
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1 hour ago, ChaosSabre said:
Why would you ever use that? Warframe.market exists and is a much better way to sell items.
Does anyone in these posts actually look at the previous posts, like seriously I`ve had to repeat myself multiple times 😂. Yes like many other noob players I started out in maroo`s but as I became better I started using the trading chat, warframe market, riven sites and switching servers to other bazars. I hardly use European maroo`s anyways its pretty much untradeable (at least on ps4 anyway I`m not sure if its the same on other platforms). I don't really actually go there to sell anything anymore. I mostly only go there to help out other noobs. -
57 minutes ago, (PS4)Kamranos said:
Please explain how a vernacular slang term like “noob” has a dictionary definition. I remember the days of “newbie” was the term in the turn of the millennium but noob is not an endearing term. Used within a clan is one thing as you can typically understand each other’s tone. Also, my comment was to the OP, so I wasn’t really sure why you feel the need to justify yourself.
Noob is an insulting term to attempt to identify one with inferior knowledge. This thread was toxic from its original post.
lol wtf toxic from its original post ?????
I made this post to come up with ideas to help noobs have a better experience trading. Yes I said NOOB big wow. @Ryk_the_Wizard at least actually understands the term noob unlike you, however he is someone who also clearly doesn't care about or understand what its like for new players (especially ones playing with no friends to help them) if he thinks there is nothing wrong with maroo`s. I did not make this thread to try and make European maroo`s a better experience for myself, I couldn't gaf. I make more than enough plat through trading chat and through the market like I said many times I`ve recently only been going to maroo`s to actually help noobs which are not getting help from being there. In no way did I even mention it was for anything other than noobs. Some people like @Ryk_the_Wizard just try to see what they want to see (as he`s clearly not even read the full of the original post)
1 hour ago, Ryk_the_Wizard said:maroo is supposed to be for noobs/new players (old players still use it because they usually end up giving info to those new players), you should indeed use it till you realize that "Too many noobs sitting for hours selling ayatan stars, common mods and low tier weapons eg. fang prime set. " is the actual point of maroo's bazar. "noobs sitting for hours selling ayatan stars, common mods and low tier weapons", there i made it more visible so you read it again and again till you get the point that maroo is where new players learn that argons are not tradeable and you get plat for effort not for every single generic drop in the game.
Sorry but "Too many noobs sitting for hours selling ayatan stars, common mods and low tier weapons eg. fang prime set." this proves that you are the type of noob that doesn't have patience to help other noobs and just blames them for wasting space. I call hypocrisy manifest.
I agree it should be for noobs selling to noobs however how many noobs do you see buying ayatan stars off other noobs. Point is they are selling stuff that even other noobs don't want because they don't know its common items. Obviously they shouldn't be told the price of every item they can find out on their own but they should at least be told the very basics. I wasn't being a hypocrite In fact I`m one of the few people that actually helps them. It makes me sad seeing noobs wasting their own time. For the sake of 1 small tutorial DE could add in to save noobs hours/days and actually make them want to trade.
yes it is true some players pick it up on their own. Some players have help from other players. But what about the ones that don't ? what about them ? they are left to waste their own time and ultimately give up on trading and maybe even the game itself.
like I mentioned earlier if hardly any players are helping them out how can they expect to know what they are to sell and how much stuff goes for and how to remove a slot etc. some wont even get to that point because they don't even know someone is talking to them in chat while trading. I have had several players say to me they where giving up on trading because they weren't having fun (because no one was helping them and they waited for hours with no trades). The reason because Maroo`s doesn't actually help them only a small number of players in it do.
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2 minutes ago, (PS4)guzmantt1977 said:
Experienced players do not usually need to go to Maroo's to trade. They do it in a dojo which isn't cluttered and nobody has to figure out which instance you are in or struggle to get in.
Maroo's is where you expect to find noobs. If you are trying to "fix" that, then you are probably missing the point.
I am not disagreeing with the fact that Maroo`s was obviously intended as a place where noobs can go to trade. However if you ever go into maroo`s you will find that a majority of the players there are actually there to try and sell to noobs. With a majority of them not having plat to trade and not really getting any help off of any of the other players there (at least from my experience anyway, as I seem to be the only one most times to actually help them in a room of 10 others trying to scam them for plat xD). I was not suggesting we completely removing the learning factor for noobs. Its just that a noob going into maroo`s wont actually get anything out of being there unless someone willingly helps them (which doesn't always happen). That's why I suggested the whole tutorial/practise trade type quest in my original post. To create a better learning experience for a noob compared to what is currently available at maroo`s
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Just now, Ryk_the_Wizard said:
read your main post and it's title, if your 1 and 2 would be true your main post would not exist (also if european maroo is empty just swap server from options... it takes 3 button clicks)
Lol what that makes no sense. I was trying to think of ways to make the game better for noobs hence the title. I said nothing to actually indicate I didn't use any other sites. The only thing that is obvious is that I still go to European maroo`s. And like I mentioned in reply to another comment (and at the end of my post) I pretty much only go there to actually help noobs out. Also if it wasn't obvious enough I do switch servers that's why I specifically mentioned only the European maroo`s.
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2 hours ago, Ryk_the_Wizard said:
You are still using maroo for trades instead of warframe.market, semlar.com, wftrader.com... sorry but you are a noob... no matter how much that friend of yours taught you (and he is a noob as well since he didn't know to mention the sites)... i have seen many noobs at mr 20+ aswell, however in 2 months you can't know everything about the game which is painfully proven by your main post. Usually by mr 16 people get a grasp on 80%-90% of knowledge. New ppl that start the game will eventually join a clan and discover the sites/means of trading. You found out about them from me (i doubt anyone mentioned the sites to you before because if they would have your post would not exist) take the info with you and you're welcome, pass it along to other new players. And if you need info ask people (general chat is the best, or the warframe discord server), they will usually give you the requested info. If you had asked in general "what are the means of trading other than trade chat and maroo?" quite a handful would have answered with those sites.
1 Yes you are a noob, it's not an insult, it's a measurement of your ingame skill and knowledge (which is lacking, conclusion drawn from your post).
2 Yes there are people with over 3000h that still are noobs, that is perfectly fine, not every player needs to be a master of the game.
3 No, warframe is not for people that just want everything handed to them on a golden platter.
4 Google stuff, it usually yields the best results... just googling "warframe trading site" gave me warframe.market as first link.
5 The wiki is especially packed with info on the game, use it and abuse it.
6 If you meet new players that need knowledge help them out, even if you're being a Dpolarity about it, they might still appreciate it.
Lol wtf are you on about xD. You clearly didn't read any of these posts.
1. At no point did I say I only use maroo`s
2. I mentioned in reply to other comments that I use the trade chat and warframe market on a constant basis. I also use the likes of riven market and other riven sites.
3. I use the wikia also to constantly gain more info on abilities, warframes and where to get certain items
4. Yet again in response to previous comments I mentioned that I constantly help out new players in fact that's pretty much the only thing I do when I use the European maroons because its pretty much untradeable for people that are wanting to do serious selling.
I wouldn't care if I was a noob it doesn't even matter anyways but I don't know why you feel like you need to label me one xD talking and assuming that I know nothing because I mentioned that I had only played the game 2 months
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1 hour ago, Oru5732 said:
I hope you are trolling. New players need to get slots, so they really need plat. Making trading unavailable to them seems super bad for the new player experience.
Yeh I get that man. I`ve been rethinking it a bit myself recently because obviously it isn't ideal and can be quite annoying for noob players that want to trade. However at the same time many of them wont actually make any plat because the stuff they are selling no one wants.
It was also just a suggestion as well maybe it could be lowered to mr 4 or something or Maybe DE or someone else can come up with a better solution.
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1 minute ago, Gabbynaru said:
Yeah, and what exactly stops you from sharing advice and teaching them, if they annoy you so much? You were a noob once, you got taught how to do stuff, pass that knowledge on to the new crop of noobs, and they will do better.
I do that constantly I`m always helping players that look like they need help or ask me stuff. If you actually read my full post you would realise I mentioned that many people just ignore my help because they don't understand they are selling trash. Like I mentioned as well some of them don't even realise that I messaged them cause they are so new they don't even know they are being messaged (They don't see the chat come up or think its just the trade/regional chat)
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3 hours ago, BiancaRoughfin said:
@(PS4)Mrseany247 You do know that in these Forums when you refer to less experienced players as "Noobs" you are actually talking about your self?
3 hours ago, Ryk_the_Wizard said:P.S. 2 months of playtime? you're a noob, which is fine, it means you still have a lot to learn. Have patience and learn the game and the community. (in warframu everyone under mr 16 is considered somewhat of a noob, even some above mr 20)
You do realise a noob is someone who Is inexperienced its not always how long you've played the game for. I`ve learned a lot from a friend who has played the game for years. I have seen many trash players mr 20 and up so mr is just a way of showing how much you've played the game not actual skill. I was referring to people that have obviously just started the game and have no idea what they are doing and are inexperienced.
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3 hours ago, (PS4)mwalters33 said:
Use trade chat with filters and you'll have much better luck than sitting at Maroo's for hours.
3 hours ago, Ryk_the_Wizard said:Use warframe.market and semlar.com instead, the warframe community made some awesome things that make trading easier than ever. If DE doesn't do something usually the community does and DE lets us which is nice. Call it a compromise.
P.S. 2 months of playtime? you're a noob, which is fine, it means you still have a lot to learn. Have patience and learn the game and the community. (in warframu everyone under mr 16 is considered somewhat of a noob, even some above mr 20)
3 hours ago, Kialandi said:Wait, someone still uses Maroo's bazaar?
I personally myself don't spend hours in Maroo`s I use the trade chat constantly and also use Warframe market. However I do use Maroo`s a couple of times a day when I`m trying to sell stuff It provides an additional way to get plat or trade for stuff. When I`m there I always see so many noobs struggle which is why I made this post.
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I love this game to bits and since I started playing it 2 months ago I`ve played no other game since however I feel there can be quite a few improvements that I think can be easily fixed. One of the main problems is with trading imo.
There are too many noobs in the trading area. Now I have no problem with this, however the European server is pretty much dead (there are max 3 rooms open and most times only the 1st room is actually busy) I believe this is because there are too many people that don't know how to make plat and so give up and never go back to trading. There are several key problems that noobs seem to do on a constant basis all of which imo can be easily fixed and make trading a better experience for all players.
1. Too many noobs sitting for hours selling ayatan stars, common mods and low tier weapons eg. fang prime set.
- cause they sit for hours this takes up space for other players who could have otherwise actually spent trading with people. It also disheartens the noobs cause they sit for hours and cant understand why no one is trading with them. (a majority continue to ignore my advice, believing they will eventually sell it if they wait long enough xD)
2. Too many players asking to buy untradeable items such as non prime Warframe parts and untradeable resources such as argon crystals xD
- I`ve seen many players that are decently high mr asking for this as well as noobs.
3. The only people with plat are the ones selling (mostly in EU servers)
- This is because most new players don't buy plat so cant buy items and because they don't know how to make plat there's hardly any actual trades happening in the EU servers.
The reason this is, is because the game doesn't tell you what to do and you have to figure it out on your own. Now I love that about the game but I think there really needs to be an exception to this. Something need to be done to ease people into trading. IMO there are several ways this can be done.
- Currently the mr required to trade is 2. By increasing the mr required to trade maybe to like 5 or 6 it forces people to actually play the game and understand it (in turn meaning they will know what are rarer items and even have decent stuff to trade)
- Have a mission that is a requirement to progress in the game, which teaches you the basics of trading. For example the first time you meet Maroo at the bazar you have to do a kind of walkthrough tutorial/practice trade where she tells you, you can`t trade most resources, non prime parts etc. and shows you how to insert parts and clear slots. Maybe even tell you that rarer items sell for more etc and where noobs can get relics and open them. As well as use the chat (this is another big one I didn't include in the list but many noobs just leave after they see nothing is being put up in the slots cause they don't know the person is messaging in the chat so they go around and do the exact same thing to everyone in the bazar. And you cant tell them to look at the chat... because they don't know its there lol xD)
These are just some examples but I`m sure that implementing these or something similar will get trading back to what it should be and make it a better experience for all players.
Too many noobs in Maroo`s bazar (Please make trading a better experince)
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Yeh I get that man, and if you bothered to read my full post you would have seen that I mentioned that I get that the game doesn't explain much and that I loved that about it. However most basic things in the game still have tutorials or at least ways of moving players in the right direction. For example when you first start playing you go through a mission and tutorial where you get shown how to use your weapons, abilities etc and what buttons to use when you do the war within you get the same with your operator. Then you further practice that with the mastery rank tests and such. There was nothing like that for trading at all yet its such an important part of the game. Like I mentioned to you in a pervious comment I`m not suggesting a complete 101 of trading I wouldn't want them to explain literally everything about trading or every item I know that's not what warframes about. A tutorial type quest was just an example it could be something completely different and more subtle maybe like maroo saying several phrases every so often that would cover the basics or you could go up to her and click on a 'what is trading' or what is rare items or something and she says a few phrases. the way lotus does in the orbiter