PoppyPrince
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14 минут назад, .LeiA._ сказал:
The Disruption update is pretty great!
But what's greater?
Remove the Endo from Armatus drop table, please. It's always discouraging to go run long for Relics and parts, then pops out this Endo.
Asking less grind in a game about grind and demanding some respect for your time? Here?
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3 hours ago, JaMoricharXi said:
even 2 upgrade to 1 tau shard is a huge cost. But 3 to 1? Way too much man.
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devs literally make you convert THREE weeks worth of waiting to properly upgrade ONE of FIVE shard slots. And that's only ONE warframe.
It seems just like they want to cyphon your life time just for the sake of it.-
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15 часов назад, Ace-Bounty-Hunter сказал:
Calling one of the best melee nuke frames in the game "borderline ok" proves you have no idea what you're talking about.
i am tired of repeating it, but still, most of my questions come not from "this frame is weak" but from "well, as you see, nobody/extremelly little % of players uses it, what's their problem is they are so cool?"
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22 минуты назад, Aldain сказал:
I think you might want to double check what I wrote, because I'm arguing that being good in a niche doesn't excuse being useless outside of that niche, which is why it's a bad excuse.
Ivara also occupies that niche but plenty more people play Ivara over Loki because she ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING OTHER THAN BE INVISIBLE.
Or is it hard to understand that some people don't want Loki to be the, as you put it, "Lazy Spy Frame" and literally nothing else?
Loki Prime is not so far lower than Ivara Prime in popularity stat. Does it mean people enjoy playing them both almost equally or does that mean they are equally bad?
While basic Loki is leagues above basic Ivara (however i think it has to do with how annoying is basic Ivara to get, so we will ignore that)
About niches: it is not a complete excuse. It means a warframe can be placed in a second que when it comes to rework.
What i mean by that: Gara, while being strong, is also boring because her main kit is aoe dmg and survivability. And we already have enough frames who do that.
While Atlas and Valkyr can offer nothing else except "haha, i punch people", but it can entertain people with…specific tastes. -
5 минут назад, Aldain сказал:
Just saying, this is half of the reason why Loki has gone unattended for so long and is part of why so many people aren't agreeing with your list, the other half are the now hilariously silent "Loki Master Race" players who just said everyone was using him wrong. Half to 3/4ths of his kit are staggeringly useless in modern Warframe (and were just as useless even 3 years ago), there's nothing that Loki does that other frames don't do better.
Most frames have more than one thing that they bring to the table, even freaking Excalibur has an AoE stun that is reliable if basic as it works on everything that isn't outright immune to abilities, Loki's Radial Disarm (an ability that costs 100 base energy for the record) gets worse every time DE introduces something that can't be disarmed by comparision.
Excusing Loki's poor state as a player side issue is not the best take imo.
Pay your attention. I didn't say Loki is one of the coolest frames or something like that. I said he has his niche. He is good when you have to do spy mission and you want to do it with your brain turned off. Or any other mission when you are just not in the mood for interacting with enemies.
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7 минут назад, Aldain сказал:
I'd be more than down for the cone of sight thing, it's just...way too clunky to be practical these days as it currently is.
I think the only other thing I'd do is maybe give a slight boost to the number of Shuriken his 1 throws? Maybe scale the number with a few Strength thresholds up to like 5-6? Even with the Augment on throwing only 2 at a time makes it kind of worse than Nyx for armor strip unless you spam it, and while it is a Slash proc it just feels kind of dated being only 2 projectiles at best.
it's ok to have ~1 useless ability if other work well. (but ye, ult rework sounds tasty)
6 часов назад, DrivaMain сказал:I don't see Atlas, Valkyr, Loki, and Equinox on the list. Are you sure you've done your research OP or are you just throwing random names on the post?
Now i am sure that people didn't even trouble themselves to read properly what i have written. My fault tho, should have written less if i expetected better information digestion.
Now, about your question: i said literally in the beginning of my post, that i don't touch frames which at least fill in specific niches because other frames in my list can always be replaced by something else, while frames like Atlas and Valkyr at least will entertain those who are completely into melee, because there are only few choices. -
8 часов назад, (XBOX)Graysmog сказал:
Well, are we talking full overhauls or just mechanical tweaks? I'll assume both;
Limbo - Probably the only Warframe left that has a really anti-team style kit that I would hope DE actually meaningfully changes. The Rift mechanically is just an inconsistent mess and his whole style of play just causes way too many issues.
Atlas - While he's my favorite personally, his kit is really lackluster and only shines due to a bunch of odd ability and melee interactions DE is eventually going to change. I would hope the rest of his kit is brought up to par before they nerf stat sticks, just throwing Bulwark in the trash would be a great start.
Caliban - Outside of how painfully bad Razor Gyre is, I think Caliban just suffers from a lot of really annoying and clunky mechanics a few QoL tweaks could fix really easily. Make him buff other DR sources in general instead of his diet Adaptation as a quick example, I want to like him.
Loki - I think Loki is just really, really old and could use a full rework to bring him up to par with other Warframes. Outside of Disarm, his kit is just super outdated and could use some more TLC to bring him up to snuff.
Limbo - i would make dota2-like option: "ignore ally's help", toggling it on your frames will just ignore Limbo's abilities. Straight and simple.
Loki is ok, he was just made for lazy gameplay and lazy people. His invisibility is perfect, he isn't as slow and restricted in actions as Ivara and doesn't have miserable duration multiplier like Ash. His 1+3 are perfect for skipping 90% of detection area in data rooms on spy missions.
Atlas - as i mentioned, i didn't touch frames which fill in some niche even if they are clunky. But if possible, yes, i would upgrade him too. -
57 минут назад, (XBOX)zThulsaDoomz сказал:
The fact that you have Voruna, Kullervo, Gara, and especially Garuda here is wild.
This thread is going to be priceless
1 час назад, UnstarPrime сказал:With respect, I'm guessing you might be misunderstanding the strengths of some of these frames, so I'd strongly recommend checking out some build videos for most of the frames you listed here. There are many frames that you seem to be misunderstanding. If they're not your personal preference, that's valid, but that's very different from a frame needing a rework.
To each their own, but I can't imagine thinking that Gara has better functionality than Khora. Though honestly, part of that is because it's hard to even think of comparing the two, as they overall do very different things.
Again, these are totally different frames...
50 минут назад, Xzorn сказал:Only one I agree with is Nyx and that's because I protested her rework in the first place because I knew it would only make her worse.
Had over 900h in-mission hours with her and I never play her anymore.Chroma - A monster. Pretty much contender for best brawler frame despite having two dead abilities.
Inaros - His kit was DOA. Nothing but spamming 1 and status immunity. It took the devs 8 years to realize that.
Gara - Big survivor. Big Damage. Shame they butchered her wall. She was the whole kit when she came out.
Banshee - Highest damage amp in the game. Also highest skill cap. Maybe that's why you don't see her.
Ivara - Great kit. Surpasses many frames in certain situations. Designed for a different game though.
Nezha - Never liked him but don't hate when a competent one is on my team. Decent CC, good survival.
Styanax - Good survival with 2 gates to break. Group value consistently refreshing Shield Gate. I'm personally meh on Armor strip.
Voruna - You're doing something wrong. She demolishes level 900's. 2 tapping Eximus. Very strict playstyle though.
Kullervo - Melee damage monster. Less survival than Rhino or similar but good enough to get it done.
Caliban - Yea, not sure on that one. Shield Gate testing? Not one I bothered with.i will copypaste my previous answer:
i called "weak" only a few of them, my much more constant question was: where are they? Famous Gara always gets furious protection in any thread, however gets 0 attention in game. I wanted to write this thread a month ago, so i started to pay double attention which frames people take with me on sorties/relics/archon hunts and etc. Moreover i was always curious about my teams' choices because i don't mind being a teamplayer and complimenting my comrades' abilities, so i have a very clear year worth impression in my head about "common" choices. -
9 минут назад, TARINunit9 сказал:
ITT, OP doesn't know how to use some of the strongest frames in the game and blames everything but himself
i called "weak" only a few of them, my much more constant question was: where are they?
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6 минут назад, Xzorn сказал:
Frames that actually need reworks.
Ember
Equinox (mechanical)
Garuda (mechanical)
Loki - (I'm scared)
Mirage
Nyx
ValkyrMechanical = Design quirks or choices that prevent them from performing well as they could. Their kit isn't the issue.
Ember is nuker for lazy, she is fine. Just spam 4 up to lvl 90, then add 3 before 4.
Equinox, while being also a jack of all trades, probably offers as much functionality as ONE warframe can offer.
What's up with Garuda and Valkyr?
Loki was made for lazy spy missions.
Mirage is good nuker and has good 1x1 dmg.
I am in agreement about Nyx tho.-
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Personally i wouldn't mind to even spare niche frames, for example, melee-oriented ones: Valkyr/Garuda/Atlas, some people just love punching stuff.
But some others (in my humble opinion) can be considered obsolete. Like this ones:
1) Nyx - She was supposed to be CC queen, but look where are we now. All her kit looks either bleak or "ok, but we have better analogues".
2) Chroma - Helminth material. End of story.
3) Inaros - Ok, devs announced a rework for him, he is spared from a trash bin, yet.
4) Gara - On a paper: mighty frame with good survivability and InSaNe damage. In reality: i saw my last Gara, like, a year ago? May be even 2 years. I don't say she is weak, i ask where are Garas?
5) Banshee - The biggest dmg amp haver in the game…how often do you see her, honestly?
6) Ivara - a joke. Her 2 is insanely niche, 1 and 3 meet the famous "meh, there are much better analogues". Yes, her bow can 1shot 180lvl CHGs with SP modifiers, but, cmon, just take bramma at this point.
7) Styanax - while having pretty comfy kit, he offers nothign special or flashy. Understandably fogotten.
8) Voruna - I have a soft spot for muscle women, but they straight up butchered her with a kit like that. Her 1, 2 and 4 encourage her to be in close quarters, however the impact of 4 isn't really worth jumping at the crowd and without 4 she hasn't have her "charm" of a wild huntress.
9) Culervo - He is borderline ok, since he is a niche for…heavy attack enjoyers??? Seen any?
10) Kaliban - honestly, a surprise for me. Dude offers armor/shield strip and dmg vulnerability in ONE kit (warframes are usually given 1 of these 2), moreover this can go further beyond with Helminth, but he seems completely forgotten.
Hydroid rework was majestic (now fairly my main) and i think these frames deserve Hydroid treatment.
TL;DR - My main point isn't about their strength. My main point is: how often do you even see these frames?
https://www.warframe.com/ru/2023stats
As you can see, most of mentioned frames are placed in second half of these stats. I agree not to touch ~newborn frames since they didn't get their true place yet. -
I am glad you are not in developers' team.
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В 25.01.2020 в 19:57, (XB1)IMM0RTALBLUD сказал:
Thank you, finally someone who knows.. I often feel like I AM TAKING THE FUN OUT OF THE GAME FOR OTHERS when I play using Saryn, It does not make sense for Saryn to have all that Dope and then Garuda for instance (IMO much cooler) to have a 4th ability that only deals damage to enemies inside the lines. I'm not saying make her any weaker but making Saryn harder to use would be fantastic and a challenge. (challenge accepted)
dude, i am so thankful when i see Saryn, because it means i can stay afk and go drink some tea and wacth films, meanwhile my weaps are lvling-up. Do not touch Saryn, she is cool right now.
PC Update 35.5: Dante Unbound
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So, instead of just adding an option to turn his AI off, a player must waste 1 mod slot for that?