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At this point if you don't buy a GTX 750 Ti it is you're loss. Best performance in class price range.
price to performance you will not beat GTX 750ti, for the AMD cards i believe the R7 260x. those are you best for the price, from that point on, your price to performance ratio increases signficantly. GTX750ti can run almost all games on ultra high setting at 1080p without any problems at this point, although you might not get a 120 fps on all games at ultra high settings, you will get very good fps on the most intensive games, just make sure your not cpu limited.
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no graphics car apparenty as it seem many people with higher end gpu's are having fps issues, this game extremely cpu intesive as well, you can run this game with a strong cpu and a semi decent gpu better than an ok cpu and a crazy gpu!!! its not optimized very well at all.
BTW i have the GTX 750ti and it's an amazing card FOR OTHER GAMES ...LOL
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I learned, from the latest nvidia drivers patch notes, that the 750 gpu's had troubles with warframe.
More specifically it said that they can't run a gpu-rendered PhysX. And that is a huge load for the CPU.
If you have PhysX on, try disabling it.
Otherwise, it might be another issue with the card: if it can't run PhysX, others things might be affected as well.
You'll just have to wait for a fix from DE.
this would make sense, since its a fairly new gpu just came out about a few months ago. thanks for this.
although i have tried turing physx off completely and setting physx to run from the gpu itself in the nvidia settings.
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Battlefield 6? =)
Battlefield and Planetside have each had multiple optimization passes performed by teams full of software engineers. They can practically run on a toaster at low settings. Warframe does not have that benefit. However successful Warframe is, it does not have the corporate sponsorship of EA or Sony. Compounding matters is the obfuscation ot the ini/cfg files, eliminating the opportunity for more advanced performance tweaking.
And yes, the Warframe system requirements are blatantly wrong. The game client itself takes up 2GB of RAM. With that listed as the minimum requirement, what does that leave for the OS?
With 3GB of RAM, your system is constantly running short and paging memory out to the swap file on the hard disk, causing slowdowns above and beyond the 50-66% memory bandwidth you achieve compared to typical DDR3. That's not to even mention the 100+% improvement in single-threaded performance of modern CPUs over the Q6600. You're missing out on seven years worth of die shrinks and efficiency optimizations. More performance with less power.
It's time to face reality and stop blaming the software for the performance of your very old system.
First of all you might wana look at other posts with much better specs who are getting the same results:
https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/197139-fps-problemes-drops/
When a developer puts up minimum specs they should either stick to it, OR ATLEAST CHANGE THE MIN spec, I was running this game very very smoothly before update 11. no problems at all, SO WERE MANY OTHERS. Then all of a sudden game makers decide to change the graphic requirements, and leave people who have been playing this game for a while, TO BUY an entire new system??? This doesn't make any sense.
BTW I just added 3 more gigs of ram (total of 6 gigs now) from another computer my friend had, and saw no performance difference, probably attributing this to the CPU bottleneck that is probably happening now, which wasn't there 1 month ago. When i started playing this game my specs were ABOVE the minimum system requirements SO YES I WILL BLAME THE SOFTWARE, because like many other i was able to run this game extremely well, with even an older graphics card.
AS it stands right now this game should have a minimum requirements of an 4th generation I3 or higher cpu to run anything decent, which is leaps and bounds different than what the minimum specs, are, by next month we will probably need a titan gpu and and i5, or i7 extreme overclocked to the max to get any sort of decent fps in the game!
Not everyone has the luxury of spending money on a new system. And as much as it may seem so little to some people to spend just a few hundred dollars for a new system, its a lot of money for others. I don't normally go to play battlefield 4 or planetside and don't usually play games that are above my system specs, but the point is that if system specs are set to something, the game should atleast run a decent 30 fps on the lowest settings of the game.
I wanted to play those games to see how much i could actually push my system, and while planetside 2 might be optimized well, battlefield 4 is not optimized at all!!
any 32 bit application like warframe if ran in 32 bit mode cannot take more than 2 gigs of ram, in most not all cases, Ram is not even an issue right now since i now have 6 gigs and still see no difference in performance at all.
the main issue has become a significant strain on cpu that wasn't there before that even some pretty decent cpus cannot handle well.
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You're running a one month old GPU on a seven year old system. The GPU is starved for work to do. It's like an 80 year old man marrying a 20 year old woman. They're an awful match, and neither of them will be happy until the old man dies.
AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE.
My 80 year old man runs battlefield 6 at 35-45 fps on ULTRA HIGH and PLANET SIDE 2 from 35-60 fps... i'm sorry stop blaming things that arn't to blame. Go look at the specs for those games. I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT WARFRAME is more demanding then those games, IF IT IS, then they should specifically state that on the system requirements.
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1st post here, but this fixed it for me currently.
Will do further testing, but so far, it seems to be working.
Thanks!
Yes tried that also didn't see a difference.
you know what the funny thing is I can run battlefield 4 ON ULTA HIGHT at 35-45 fps, and I can run PLANET SIDE 2 from 35-60 Frames per second. THIS GAME IS NOT MORE DEMANDING THEN those two games in ANY WAY AT ALL. so I have basically stopped playing warframe excpet for maybe like half hour a day to an hour at most, my gameplay is not enjoyable at all, i rather play battlefiled 4 right now, As I can play the game pretty smoothly and enjoy it much much more, then sit here watching a slide show hoping i can kill a grineer with the horrible FPS. I want to be constructive, but I don't know how to? all i can say is for DE for fix the darn thing. Because obviously I can play other games fine. I also have a support ticked open where DE made a few suggestions which did not help 1 bit, and they havn't responded back since then.
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i haven't had any problems since picking up the game about 2 months ago, horrid laggs here and there aside, but those are host-dependant
stuff such as the lights are another matter, they were a design-decision that turned out poorly, but c'mon, salad V does the same thing
the performance issues are there, and all over the forums under performance, i don't know why it's different for different people!! but definitely there and lots of people with great pc specs are having a horrible gaming experience.
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He didn't say they shouldn't work at all, just not to include the stuff Animators, artists etc have been working on right away but later on. New skins, cosmetics can be made but not included just now. Same goes for new animations for various things. OP thinks that by including these stuff in weekly updates furthermore increases game's instability and they should release net code, optimization fixes instead of new tile sets that make the game even more..well.. unstable.
exactly i guess you worded it better.
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Artists and Animators usually don't write netcode.
Fyi
i am aware, but i feel like the priority weekly updates needs to be changed, if you keep comming out with new mechanics, weapons, frames, skins etc. There are more chances of bugs increasing and piling on top of what is already there. So then the load of fixing all these bugs and issues becomes increases dramatically.
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I just hope one week, warframe just focused on network and performance issues, rather than in game issues and releasing guns, skins, new features. IF YOU cannot play the game, non of the ingame abilites, broken lightbulbs, weapons, frames, matter at all.. why? CAUSE YOU CAN'T PLAY THE GAME.
people are having a lot of connection problems, performance problems. and lots of other major bugs that are just not getting the most attention. people can wait for melee 2.0 for another 2 months, but if you can't play the game, because of constant crashing, low fps, constant disconnects, host, client issues, nothing else matters.
Many of these players do have good pc specs (many with way above average), and, good connection as i have been reading the forum pots.
As of recently I see people with spectacular system specs getting all sorts of crashes, performance issues, and almost everyone getting problems with host client in general.
DE can you please focus on these things. I think we can all wait for guns, new skins, etc.
I personally avoid going to this game now even though i love the game, because i know my gaming experience is going to be horrible, and I will waste my time playing the game, because
1. i don't enjoy playing at 8 fps!!!
2. don't enjoy farming for a part for 30 mintues just to get dropped and or game crashes
3. don't really want to do a mission anymore in the fear of wasting my time, while i can play other games that work beautifully and i enjoy them, rather than in a constant hopes that i don't crash or that my fps stays above 20!!
Personally i don't even care about Frost, in game balance or any other ability frame or weapon, I have actually cut the my game play of this game to only 1 or 2 games a day max!! I don't enjoy watching a slideshow when i play, having to get disconnected, flying off into the black hole in the void just do die etc.!!!
Thank you.
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can someone acknowledge this from DE! I have talked to dozens of people on region chat, and also see so many threads on here about this!!! this game has become unplayable. While on the other hand, I am able to play games like planetside 2 which is MUCH MUCH more demanding at between a 35-60 most of the time. In this game i drop down between 8-25 fps?? What is going on?
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Have you tried reverting your driver back to 314.22 w/ Driver Uninstaller (https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/550192/geforce-drivers/display-driver-uninstaller-ddu-v12-5-1-released-03-11-14-/)? Before I switched my card to AMD, Nvidia's newer drivers tend to slow some of my games down as well as freezing my PC (don't know if that has been fixed.) that old driver is the only thing that fixed that issue.
i guess that's worth a try. i haven't done that yet.
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Does your HDD thrash when playing warframe? Just curious, if it is could explain the bad fps, most likely a corrupted warframe download, it's happened before.
Try a fresh install if the video card fix i posted above didn't do a ding dang darn thing.
no nothing of that sort, HDD is very quiet, and is set on maximum performance., i have tried everything, I actually put in a new hardddrive and installed everything from the top yesterday. all the video drivers, ,warframe etc. I'm not having problems with other games! running most things on high or ultra high, the gpu is brand new and one of the most recent ones by nvidia (not a titan, but it runs everything else very well).
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So gonna tell you my configs: intel core i7 3770k 4.5GHz(overclocked) 4Gb RAM Geforce GTX560. Using windows 7 64 bit version and warframe also, running on Maximum settings without any fps drops normally. so i think the biggest problem for u is your old processor which probably has low Cache, also try adding more RAM
If I can run planetside2 doesn't that say something?? don't blame it on other factors especially since my pc has much higher stats the the minimum. Thank you.
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10FPS average. Honestly, I just learned to play with it.
this is not a playable fps man! i'm sorry!! its like watching a slid show, by the time i aim to shoot something i'm dead.
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I run warframe at like 8 fps sometimes, and my max dosen't get higher than 25 most of the time.
I HAVE sent 2 support tickets to DE without any responses.
I am seriously getting sick of this.
my system:
intel core 2 quad @ 2.4ghz
6 gigs of ram
gtx 750ti w/ 2 gigs of ddr5 ram
4 tb of hard drive
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF I PUT SETTING ON ULTRA HIGH OR ULTRA LOW, fps remains constantly crappy, wihtout ANY change whatesoever. I have tried running in 64 bit, without 64 bit, with and without dx 11, with and without multithreading. defraggin. Everything.
Can someone help me. This game is uplayable at this point!!! While on the other hand I can run planetside 2 with between 35-60 fps easily on high! and that game has much higher requirements.
I have reinstalled warframe, reformatted my system, re installed drivers. you name it.
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The thing is, a few individuals who understand the game and primarily want its longevity will have drastically different and more specific opinions than the community (including DC) at large. Most importantly, they don't have to agree - I'm proposing a 'sanity check'...an analysis of DE's proposals to ensure that they haven't missed anything...like for example releasing a new weapon which will instantly replace all clantech but at rank 0.
Polls are a great way to get a lot of very shallow information...DE actually needs a little very deep information.
As an example, I'm sure a community poll on the Marelok's stats would have been 1k+ votes of 75/25 : Hell YEA/Um no. A lot of information, not very detailed.
However, a quick chat with 10 or so really experienced WF players would have been more like...awesome weapon idea but needs slightly more downside. Outshines almost every secondary in nearly every meaningful category - Initial accuracy is too high, recoil ends up putting reticle back on target by the time next round is ready. Needs to feel more unwieldy to pack brakk level power with no damage falloff. Might be time to introduce a new jamming mechanic or something to make reload skill based. Makes Grinlok feel obsolete - maybe cut status way back to ensure this gun is a powerhouse and not a laser-guided-scalpel-nuke.
Yes i have advoacted polls be run By DE, something like this: http://strawpoll.me/1231707
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I agree with OP's sentiment. Maybe if someone drew up a "How to play" guide for newcomers, some of these problems can be mitigated. For example, I didn't know not sticking together in survival spreads out spawn rates, or that we get bonuses for sticking together till someone mentioned it. The community is smart, if we spread out this information using cool pictures it'll get peoples attention and then they'll (hopefully) make the decision to stick together.
yea i have to explain this everytime in xini while i'm ranking stuff up. and i really have to write a complete essay via chat, while trying to shoot the crewmen in the face!!!
and same about survival and spawn... but most of the time even after i explain people don't respond. or they just don't care.
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You just quoted me twice? o.O
Also because its more fun to do it in a group, and go forever. I love going to apollodorus its where I hang out to wait on the new updates. I level all my stuff there, and I destroy everything there... Plus gotta compete with phage for leveling stuff. Also you can't level so well solo... Solo only goes so far...
so wouldn't it make more sense to motivate people to stay with the group?
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Wouldn't support this... some of us WANT TO USE OUR GUNS... spreading out is the only way. One person stays next to the pods, another goes to one room on the other side of the main room, another to the other room on the opposite side, and the fourth guy wanders around to far away, and dangerous pods... that's how it works... Usually the guy that wanders off is God Pro... Like Shinigami Nekros Pro!
why don't you just play solo?!!! if you want to use guns?
People rush ahead because they CAN. When you literally clear the map with 2 or 3 pushes of one button, there's not just a lack of incentive, but there's little to no opportunity for teamwork. When I play with low levels, I actively hold back so everyone can feel like they're doing something. That modicum of self-restraint is something that a lot of people simply don't possess in life, much less a game where they become near omnipotent beings.
It's not just a matter of scaling, but a disparity between enemy and player design. A couple of guys with riot shields or machine guns may necessitate different tactics in conservative shooter games. But when our warframes can literally shoot antimatter and black holes from the tips of their fingers, none of that means jack.
If you can't grasp what I mean, imagine if the game was changed and you had to play a Grineer or Corpus unit, and had to take down a modded out Rhino or Nova. We can even be generous and assume they only have melee weapons. Now, which non-boss Corpus or Grineer unit would you choose to be, and do you think you even have a snowballs chance in hell against them?
You're in the wrong thread!! what does this have anything to do with teamwork? why are you comparing grineer AI to human?? i just don't understand this post at all.
Wouldn't support this... some of us WANT TO USE OUR GUNS... spreading out is the only way. One person stays next to the pods, another goes to one room on the other side of the main room, another to the other room on the opposite side, and the fourth guy wanders around to far away, and dangerous pods... that's how it works... Usually the guy that wanders off is God Pro... Like Shinigami Nekros Pro!
Again, If you want to go somewhere alone and use your guns, in the map, why don't you just play solo??? its really not that hard!! i keep hearing people argue that they want to be alone and still play in teams how does this make any sense?
The thing about co-op is that it isn't always about sticking together though.
In survival me and my friends tend to stick together in one spot and we have our fastest team member sprint towards the life supports that are on the other maps. A punishment like this would likely make it hell for that team member, with the move speed decrease and damage decrease.
Of course you could argue that we can, as a team, move to the life support. Yeah, that's an option I guess. It might be slower than having one do it, definitely safer though.
Likewise, in most OD missions, we tend to have a team member go ahead and find the vault for us while the rest of us just do the mission and not distract ourselves from keeping our eyes open for a vault door that may or may not be along the path we're going.
Point is, while punishment helps limit people being lone tenno and straying too far from the team, it kind of limits a bit of cooperation that involves having team members far apart from each other.
I personally would prefer encouraging people to stick together for the most part, and I feel they do it rather well with the exp.
This is exactly what i'm talking about why does someone go ahead and run to the vault while you leave others behind, I have seen many games where the alone player dies because of being alone, in OD vault runs, then the mission must be scrapped!! The entire idea behind the dragon keys is for the team to work together, because each person is hindered in some way, so work in teams to move forward!
Just Seeing where in a lot of games there is just a lack of communication and cooperation, 90% of the games i start people don't even tend to cooperate or talk. This is becoming a big issue, where as 3 months ago it wasn't and there was a huge sense of teamwork. Right now the game has change to total lack of teamwork. I might get lucky one out of 20 or 30 games to get a team that actually cooperates, rather than running around like a chicken with their heads cut off, and just complete chaos.
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So if one speeds ahead and gets killed he is not punsihed?
Same as in survival, you get seperated, you die.
Sure it's quiet anyoing having one with a very fast frame at the lead who is simply unwilling to let go of the sprint button, but again I am sure he is punished often enough for that.
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1. if you sprint ahead i suggested a punishment system, which is probably not the best. so yes he does get punished.
2. many people including myself can solo many survivals for extended periods, an NOT die, i just enjoy playing with a team much more, so it can become an issue, even low ranking players can get away from the team in survival and stills survive for long periods.
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I'm not going to yell at you for that...but do watch what you say...
I actually do care about XP very much but others don't know or understand the system, or do not care in general!!! I very much try to stay with the group, as much as i can generally, but there is always that one person going off in surival or in xini/defense to the spawn and just messing up things.
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As i said before my examples are probably not the best!! So there is not need to criticize. Also many people don't know or care about XP. I was just looking for ideas on how to make people stay together, if you would rather play this game alone you should play solo!
All this would create is an unfun, "stay close to me or have consequences" sort of game, and I don't want that.
you can always play solo. besides the radius can be adjusted so you don't have to be in your fellow tennos personal space!!!
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I just though of this recently, When i started thinking about balancing the game.
There have been many threads about nerfing and buffing threads. Many of the players want a better co-op playing experience, for example:
1. people get frustrated about one player, with any frame just running ahead and killing everything,
2. Surival: one or more player not sticking together, hencing spreading spawn rate, not working together, and also dying on the other side of the map where no one can get to them.
3. Defense: peopld going to spawn points and just blowing the hell out of everything, may it by with saryn's miasma, a quick rhino stomp, a mag sheild polarize or cursh, or nova etc.
Here is the idea:
Reward for sticking together, while also punish players for not sticking with each other.
This could be achieved in many ways.
PLEASE NOTE THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES, TO CONVEY A POINT. I WANT THIS THREAD TO BE CONSTRUCTIVE, NOT DESTRUCTIVE. MAIN PREMISE IS THE REWARD PUNISHEMENT SYSTEM THEN THE CURRENT XP SYSTEM, which many players don't care about nor understand. Thank you.
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Punish: For example a person that is too far away from the group and goes down. It is almost impossible to get to revive this person anyways, so, punish players that go far away from the group. players that are certain meters away from the main group or each other will not bee seen IF DOWNED by other team mates, thus they cannot be revived.
Punish PLAYERS that run too far AHEAD CLOSER TO the objective than other players, by, slowing their frame, and/or damage decrease.
These ideas are just ideas and might not be good ideas but these are just examples.
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Reward players for sticking together by benefiting from other players stats: For example a player with a full serration mod can perhaps provide team mates withing 10 meters to get 5% or 10% percent damage increase to their weapon, scaling with the serration mod of close by team mates. This is just an example. But The main idea is the team will be stronger as a group then as individuals running around by themselves. may it be their abilites, their guns, health etc.
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One of the main reasons for lack of cooperation is when a rank 0 rank 3 and rank 2 player all join a rank 14 or 15 person in missions, especially in defense and survival. Mastery locking certain planets till a certain mastery is reached can easily accomplish this problem.
The Entire premise behind all this is NOT TO TAKE MY IDEAS TO HEART, but to TAKE THE MAIN CONCEPT of reward and punishment for co-op teamplay: PUNISH people who don't play together, while reward players that stick together.
Maybe other people have some ideas/examples on how this system could work better, or maybe not work at all.
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