[Actual Ninja frames]

well man i understand your reasoning for not viewing other frames as ninja frames, however i would like to take the time to inform you that theres a bit more shinobi influnce in other frames than you might think.

ember uses too much fire? ninjas had to play arsonist all the time. sneak in, light a fire in the stables, the army attacks. sometimes, they used fire to cover their escape.

atlas a boxer? ninjas has HORRIFICLY STRICT training. to say that a ninja cant break a persons neck in a second would be a false statement.

mesa a gunslinger? well i have news for you. ninjas.....were super into guns. SUPER into guns. you got something that can end a fight in literally a pull of a trigger? that you use from a distance? they'd sell their own granma for that stuff.