Hashul
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Rare fusion cores are terrible. In terms of cost and effectiveness, rank 5 uncommon fusion cores are the best atm.
Then I want more of those, even though it shows pretty well just how bad DE is at balancing that they suck. Twenty hours makes me maybe ten, but I need around a thousand billion to level a core past 3. How exactly does that make the situation any better?
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So Hashul, because you don't like being condescended to, you decided to condescend to me when I replied initially? Hilarious.
I like being condescended to - and now we're back to the part where you never learnt to read. Are you going to go and attend an English class as per my suggestion (again, my 'I'll write it out in your native language' offer still applies, since statistics dictate that I probably know at least the basics of your language - is it Romance, West Germanic, Indo-Aryan or Sinitic?) or am I going to have to help you every step of the way?
In any case, your rubbish rare fusion core which I have one of and your rubbish Streamline which I have two of doesn't change that even disregarding the fact that they're worthless and not freeze mods they drop so rarely that they're impossible to do anything but treasure like Gollum might. Who on Earth with a life has so many rare fusion cores they feel the urge to use one of them, the things in themselves not even enough to fully power a great deal of mods?
My grievance remains the same. If I don't get the bloody mods I've spent at least a week grinding for I might as well file a charity tax deduction for my fifty dollars, since that's what this company's obviously trying to be.
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@neKroMancer
It drops from all Infested, you silly confirmation-biased insert-appropriate-verb-here-er, and it comes down maybe once every forty hours instead of eighty at which point its spot is taken inevitably by some rubbish ability for some subpar waste of development effort of a warframe nobody gives a damn about. While I'm sure that's good for you it certainly bloody well isn't good for me and I will rip my ovaries out and make myself a moustache out of my Fallopian tubes before I spend one more day looking for those puffy haemorrhoid-laden donuts on the ground after having them torn from my arse by the level five million troops filling the place dense as sausages at a development conference.
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@neKroMancer
I joined after the hotfix and never had those mods in the first place, so I can't imagine what it was like - but how about giving me my bloody freeze mods maybe once an hour instead of once every eighty? I don't care in the slightest about how they fix it - they're supposed to be game developers. Maybe they can use all that money we're giving them to get someone who knows about this sort of thing to work for them instead of going around spending it on winning workplace pampering awards.Hell, they could ask me! My answer would be give me my bloody mods you wanking tossers and maybe throw in a few rare fusion cores, thanks.
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@rhoenix
If I didn't enjoy being condescended to, I'd be mad; as it is, all you've done is increase the intensity of my lustful rage.
(If it might help: your apple-juice analogy needs a larger delay between its inception and end and requires less direct condemnation, focusing more on my supposed childishness; as it is, it has a rather awful air of unnaturality emanating from it. Fix that and you've got fetish pornography!)
Your inability to refrain from comma-splicing aside, it's apparent from the outset the developers have no clue on how to run an online game. Their patch notes are amorphous as your belly, the publishers can't bring themselves to hire people who know what they're doing, the developers themselves act like old men having just googled 'trolling' without ever even playing the game, and THE BLOODY DROP TABLES ARE BOLLOCKING AWFUL.
This isn't a 'bug'. It's a deliberate attempt to try and 'balance' drop rates and its utterly, pathetically botched execution is a simple reminder that these people should be in a care home, not a development studio. If they keep to schedule and they fix the drop rates so I get my bloody mods, you'll not hear a complaint more from me; as it is, I've heard no promises and so all I can assume is that they're too concerned about their little dollhouse tilesets and worthless mechanics to fix the core game.
In any case, I've never farmed before the hotfix. I'm not complaining for what was lost: I'm complaining about what I never had. There's not a lot I've never had - I know that sensation may be foreign to you, but it is so - and freeze mods for my pistol and rifle are two of them. These rates are an absolute travesty.
Maybe I'll take your point that the development team is competent if you talk like them:
Huehuehue, the drop tables were hit by a Corpus attack! Let's check in on them: OH MY GOD THE HAMSTER'S DEAD! It's a good thing we like hamster meat! Huehuehue.
What a load of rubbish.
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I'll give you time to go take a walk, get something to eat, and then come back with a real reply if you seriously want to make this a debate.
I have; I'll give you time to learn the English language.
They should fix this before anything else, putting it nicely, because this problem is the result of their first fix. It's not a difficult connection to make.
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@Hashul:Not one single thing you replied to my post with was in any way, shape, or form a rebuttal, or a point made. It was more complaining because you're mad. Fine, you're mad. We get it. It's obvious.
Posting an angry, ranting screed solves absolutely nothing, and makes you look petty. Moreover, if your every single assumption about snickering, evil devs was right, then how would your post help? If you were completely right about the devs and their personalities, they'd probably print your post out and put it on their wall in a frame.
So, try to decide what it is you want. Do you want the issues in the game fixed? Then become part of the solution - file bug reports, post suggestions, and ask questions.
Do you simply want to scream and complain about how horribly evil the devs are for not fixing certain aspects of the game to your exact specifications immediately? Okay, but doing so makes you look bad, not the devs here.
Posting something like "THE GAME IS BROKEN AND THE DEVS FEAST ON THE TEARS AND SUFFERING OF THEIR PLAYERS" doesn't solve a single thing, and instead wastes everyone's time. I'm sure you felt better after typing all of that out, but you're not the nobly suffering martyr here, calling the people far and wide to see your horrible wounds. You're someone who isn't satisfied with a free game (that's STILL IN BETA, I feel compelled to point out) and is complaining that the devs hate you and want to kick your dog.
You really ought to retry English, since the only thing other than miseducation that could explain your post is that you appear to have forgotten halfway through it that I only ever said that the devs were incompetent, not malicious.
Is the distinction really so difficult to make? If you speak another language as your first, I'd be more than glad to retype my post in it for you.
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You have insulted your fellow gamers, the ones that you are apparently voicing your opinion in defense of, and get further outraged when people disagree with you.
I've insulted people - wait, no, a single person - who appears to have decided to initiate his side of the debate with a 'no you're just whining they don't need to release new content you're a pay to win scumbag'. I'm not sure where you're getting this supposed pattern of abuse from; to everyone else I have been nothing but buddy-buddy.
In other words: I ain't ever crossed a man who didn't deserve it - he be treated like a punk, you know that's unheard of.
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So you want a pay to win, then? You're an idiot if you think that's a good strategy. Think of this from the perspective of someone who can't afford to spend money on the game. Why would you keep playing at all, when someone who's willing to drop 200$ on it comes along and makes you look like a scrub with the over-powered gear they bought, regardless of whether they're actually *better* at the game than you or not.
And you're even more of an idiot if you think this game's not getting any content updates. Did you not see the word "Beta" plastered all over everything when you downloaded it?
Oh my God. I can see why you think the words I'm using are from a thesaurus.
I'm sorry that fifty dollars is a great deal of money to you (and I'm beginning to see why), but that's not my focus - I certainly want platinum to be cheaper, given that their pricing strategy appears to have been derived from 'I heard companies are making millions from online games, I wanna get in on that!'. What I want is reasonable drop rates, and that has nothing to do with 'pay to win'.
Please feel free not to lecture me on game development as a freeloader bitter about your income.
Did you not listen to the rest of the livestream after you determined that you that you were smarter than the people who probably spent the majority of thier adult lives learning how to make good games, and market them well?
Do you know who spent years on their trade? (You don't, but let's use this bit of figurative speech for illustration.)
Arctic icebreakers.
You don't see a lot of ice delivery trucks around nowadays, do you? That's because when refrigerators were invented they went on to do something else with their boats - this is what DE is trying to do, except now they're trying to catch fish with their sail rigging.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... HA...hahaha...
Sorry, it's just I read your post, and the only thing I hear is whine whine whine, disguised with big-boy thesaurus words.
You're thinking in the terms of a single player game. If this was a single player game, then you'd be right, and having to run the same mission half a trillion times to get the one thing that drops there sometimes would be BS, but it's NOT a single player game. This is an Online, Multi-player game with a lot of mission that are clearly designed to be tackled by squads of two or more Tenno.
Low drop rates are important for online games. If all of the best stuff drops regularly, what you're going to end up with is a game where a lot of people wind up sitting around at max level with all the best gear. At that point, what's left in the game for them? Showing off their peen is bound to get old after a while, so they'll quit and move on. Obviously, if 90% of the player base does this, then, well, we don't have a game anymore. That would be okay for a box title that you'd buy at the store and sell back to gamestop for 10% of what you paid, but it's a big deal when an online multiplayer game like this goes down. That's lost money for the company, and lost time and possibly invested money for the customers, so no one wins.
And as far as the bosses go, no, you shouldn't be allowed to just quit out of a match and still keep the boss loot. I can't think of a single game, on or offline, that lets you do that.
You can get incensed all you want about it. You're wrong.
That's why it's an online game with microtransactions. Successful MMOs thrive on getting updated content. I'm not sure how to explain this to you without speaking how you'd like me to speak (maybe I should take a few courses in American Redneck so as to soothe your itching?), but you're defending developer laziness in creating artificial gameplay time and espousing a stopgap measure as the endgame.
How dense can you possibly to actually believe that you're right?
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(I'm not sure how to get the quotes working; trust DE to screw a forum up, since apparently anything on the internet is new and exciting to them.)
I get your frustration with the drop rates - I do. But, a few points here.
1. This is still in beta. So keep in mind, drop tables and many other aspects of Warframe are fair game for tweaking until all the details are working right. A number of others have also complained about the drop rates since the last patch, so the issue is quite likely going to be looked at again in the near future.
2. The devs are planning on implementing Clans, which allow one clan member to give stuff to another. If this is expanded with mods, this would also help to alleviate the issue, as long as you're part of a Clan you reasonably like.The bottom line is that they've already looked at it and apparently one of their idiot programmers thought that this was anywhere near reasonable, because apparently none of them have played their own game except some tosser who shows off his skill fighting level eight Corpus with maxed-out weapons.
3. The devs have been close-lipped about their final plans for Warframe. We get small hints here and there, and we can make inferences from those hints - but the bottom line is that assumptions in this case would be dangerous.
It's obvious you like this game, or you wouldn't have spent this much time writing up an angry rant about the drop rates for it. Don't let this one thing sour your experience, since from inference, you still enjoy the rest of the game.(EDIT: Added breaks, since the forum kept dropping carriage returns)This isn't 'one thing': it's indicative of an overall apathy towards the player. The developers appear to think that they're incredibly cute - well, I'd give the pink shorts one a handie at the very least he's really quite attractive but that's not what I mean - asking for an entire community of sugar daddies without being willing to divulge when they're going to let their pants down. It's beyond pathetic: it's an utter disgrace to the online gaming community that they're taking what should be an enjoyable experience and corrupting it with their utter and complete disregard for the playerbase's real issues, focusing instead on their little self-congratulatory 'oho I've finally got clans working' nonsense as if they think they're Apple and can tell the players what they want.
RNG is a blessing and a curse as I am wont to say.
Now as for mod drops, where you play doesn't mean squat from what I have seen. You can get rare drops in Mercury with the same % as you do in Pluto. Now take into consideration that you might get on average 3-4 mods dropped in a run. And I am just spit balling the odds here but say 75% odds for a common. 20% for uncommon and 5% for a rare. That means than in those 4 drops you have a 5% chance PER DROP to get a rare. The more runs you do the better the chances of getting a rare but not exactly the ones YOU want. It is not set in stone that you WILL get a rare it is a random chance. Plus they are working on trading later in the game where people can trade mods so that will help people get the ones they want. Until then all you can do is pray the gods of RNG smile upon you.
The game is good, not solid but they are well on their way and they are trying. I myself have gotten frustrated over the server instability but they are trying. That is why it is still in beta.
If you are bound and determined to be all angry and rage about something that everyone else has to deal with too then well, guess you need to find another game.
They are not bloody well trying if they can't get a simple drop rate right. If you're going to pull the 'everyone has to deal with this' card, I'd suggest you consider what I'm trying to do here. I know it hurts to think for more than a few seconds, but consider for the tiniest fraction of just one - I know that's a slight migrane, but keep with me here - that what I'm suggesting is that they fix the mod drop rates first because it's the result of a 'fix' that already has been made, and I'm not bloody well playing for another minute with the constant reminder that I'm not even accomplishing my own entertainment.
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This is bloody pathetic.
I started playing maybe a week or two ago and I got the fifty-dollar Founder's Pack because I thought I'd be paying towards a good game with proven developers, but I can't imagine what kind of inexperienced has-beens this whole lot turned out to be. I'm sitting thinking to myself why I'm paying for a game where seventy hours (I'm counting) of grinding on the hardest levels gets you around ten useful rare mods, about one of which is a freeze mod for a weapon I don't even need freeze on? Is your idea of 'fixing' a drop rate to make it utterly inaccessible to anyone who has a physical form capable of fatigue?
I've got utter incompetents at life telling me that 'rare' mods should be 'rare' and that if I don't like it I should play another game, but if it isn't the bloody Sword of a Thousand Truths I don't see why there's a thousand-hour grind to find one that isn't absolutely and utterly useless. What sort of designer struggling to be relevant in the modern world 'fixes' a drop-rate so the only thing Pluto gives you is Thief's Wit?
Now I'm hearing (heard, rather, on the livestream) that the developers are going to remove leaving after bossfights as well, which is the point at which I'm thinking I might draw the bloody line. It's taking long enough for the mods and now they're seriously contemplating making farming the apparent endgame instead of skill-based gaming (because as we know that would take more effort than the guys who seriously don't want global trade because of the trade spam instead of considering a trading channel or a platinum-bought merchant pass are willing to shoulder) - are the mod drop rates going to be fixed or have I donated my money to charity?
I can't even well bloody well care if this gets me banned, because it's not a great deal of money in any case and it would certainly be more of a service to me than it would be to you.
What an utter farce this whole enterprise turned out to be.
(In case you're planning to ask: yes, I'm mad. I can only imagine what kind of person doesn't get a little miffed over having wasted more time on something than God on Earth.)
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Every time I try to buy the Master pack by clicking 'buy now', I get a message saying:
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[size=3]I'm already kind of iffy about the whole decision, but this isn't exactly inspiring my confidence.[/size]
The Mod Drop Rate Is So Atrocious As To Beggar The Imagination
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Posted · Edited by Hashul
I'm sure 'all the time' is quite a bit for you, Gold Seeker, but I'm afraid 'all the time' isn't quite enough for people who can still count the number of hours they've spent on a game.