Nekros Is Nice But Now Please Buff Volt

[TheGambler_BR]

This is exactly my point. This is probably why Volt hasn't been fixed earlier because sycophants who picked him and speed leveled him to 30 without even tasting the cuisine are all saying he's fine. He isn't and every Volt lover I know already realizes this.

 

I love the word sycophants. Difficult to use it, though.

[XDeathCoreX]

does you try Multiple Electric shield with Puncture mod shotgun one shot a 60-100 level boss at 100M ?

Volt is OP, you just don't know how to use it

 

You know only how to use shield, do you know how to use anything else? Even Volt himself?

[saltshaker42]

Huge hiatus from warframe, because Volt is still bad.

 

I play him every chance I get, but each time I always say "I can't do anything, oh well, switching to Saryn." All his abilities need tweaking in some way, and now that DE has "fixed" (not sure how "fixed" they are) most of the other broken warframes (and fixed Mag twice... We can see DE has favorites). I hope Volt will get a real fix sometime soon so I can start playing again.

[Glisp]

Do you hear yourself? Ele.Shield is IMMOBILE. Not everyone just plays defense missions where movig is not required. Also why does he have a skill supporting gunplay when he is an alternative to just that? Bring shade in order to use Overload effectively? Not everyone has shade. Why does volt require a sentinel to use his ult without dying? These are problems. Overload is useless on everything but mid level corpus. Please, stop embarrassing yourself.

  Snow Globe is immobile too. It's practically the reason everyone uses Frost. My point is, that he's not totally 100% as useless against high level enemies. You just have to focus on different strategies to take advantage of the situation. With Armor 2.0, a buff for Overload may not even be needed. The idea of my post wasn't to say "HEY USE VOLT YOU WEENIES" It was a tip on how to better utilize him. I'm not saying you have to follow my advice but it may at least be useful to someone. Especially for players that want to really use volt effectively but can't figure out how.

[XDeathCoreX]

  Snow Globe is immobile too. It's practically the reason everyone uses Frost. My point is, that he's not totally 100% as useless against high level enemies. You just have to focus on different strategies to take advantage of the situation. With Armor 2.0, a buff for Overload may not even be needed. The idea of my post wasn't to say "HEY USE VOLT YOU WEENIES" It was a tip on how to better utilize him. I'm not saying you have to follow my advice but it may at least be useful to someone. Especially for players that want to really use volt effectively but can't figure out how.

Seems yours and everyone else's advice is just to use shield, is shield all Volt has? Do you place other mods in the other power slots? If y'all do, NO ONE know show to truly use Volt. And it's all the Devs fault. At lest use speed. It's worth it.

 

And you people should stop bringing Corpus into this, they are a worthless no armor bunch with nothing to make up for it which makes all y'all opinions invalid and infested are just tough and resilient towards light. Light armor or not. They don't even budge when hit with light. Doesn't phase them at all. So useless.

Edited September 18, 2013 by XDeathCoreX

[Engelheim]

Shield is pretty much useless now since they ninja nerfed it.

[TheGambler_BR]

  Snow Globe is immobile too. It's practically the reason everyone uses Frost. My point is, that he's not totally 100% as useless against high level enemies. You just have to focus on different strategies to take advantage of the situation. With Armor 2.0, a buff for Overload may not even be needed. The idea of my post wasn't to say "HEY USE VOLT YOU WEENIES" It was a tip on how to better utilize him. I'm not saying you have to follow my advice but it may at least be useful to someone. Especially for players that want to really use volt effectively but can't figure out how.

 

Thing is... snow globe offers bullet immunity from all directions, in addition to a slow to melee units. it's also considerably larger, and costs less.

[cary2010haha]

Seems yours and everyone else's advice is just to use shield, is shield all Volt has? Do you place other mods in the other power slots? If y'all do, NO ONE know show to truly use Volt. And it's all the Devs fault. At lest use speed. It's worth it.

 

And you people should stop bringing Corpus into this, they are a worthless no armor bunch with nothing to make up for it which makes all y'all opinions invalid and infested are just tough and resilient towards light. Light armor or not. They don't even budge when hit with light. Doesn't phase them at all. So useless.

So why not? Banshee only have Sonar, so buff banshee?

 

E. shield is much powerful than Sonar if Multiple over 4 shield, and it's the most powerful weapon damage buff power in 10.0 warframe.

E. shield buff damage , bullet speed, effect range<----just like a hack.

So you still want more?

[TunaMayo]

does you try Multiple Electric shield with Puncture mod shotgun one shot a 60-100 level boss at 100M ?

Volt is OP, you just don't know how to use it

Please, elaborate.

The single damage of shock is laughable, the stun unreliable and the chaining unpredictable or non existent. Compared to other caster frames 1s (pull/venom/null star) shock is a joke.

Speed gives you speed buff and melee speed buff. No damage reduction to to aimbot enemies and most melee weapons should not be used over guns for max damage. Also volt is no tank, easily downed in melee.

Electric shield is the saving grace of volt. Makes projectiles hitscan, adds damage, blocks incoming damage. BUT, it is immobile, removes armour ignore properties of weapons, costs a lot of his measly 150 power (without focus). And, in the majority of cases you have to cast a few to get the real effect, also enemies can walk straight through it woth no qualms.

Electric jesus is simply laughable. The damage pales in comparison to other ultimates, the stun is barely recognisable and the fact that if there are electrics nearby you are a piñata for bullets for even longer is a joke.

The above is all true. Anyone who has spent a decent amount of time playing volt knows that to be so. Volt is op to non infested enemies below level 20, but that is not true measure of power.

same with nekros, so many people hate him but i demolish enemies much stronger than me or my gear with him all the time. people need to see if it is there fault the frame seems weak before calling for buffs. sometimes a buff or nerf is needed though

See the above for my thoughts on volts kit. Please note he was my starter frame back in the day and I have poured many hours into him. He was my most played until the overload nerf and now I can't bring myself to use him anymore.

Nekros is a different kettle of fish. All of his abilities are good, but not great. Combined with his terrible stats this puts him in a position where 9/10, trinity is the more useful support.

Soul punch. AoE is lacking, hard to stack the debuff as ragdolled enemies are immune and not targetable. Either needs larger AoE or to become a projectile from nekros, allowing for spamming for debuffs.

Terrify, damage buff is non existent, range is short, doesn't freeze nearby enemies. Needs to do as advertised, damage buff and freezing enemies please. Range buff would be nice and remove the cast time on a clutch skill!

Desecrate is marmite. You love it or hate it. If it is staying in game, make it a prime rather than only usable on bodies. Will not cry if this gets replaces.

Shadows of the dead is close to being great! But shadows need to receive team buffs (roar/speed). Quality of life improvement couls be that heavy units stay in your "deck" so that accidentally killing a light unit doesn't gimp your ult.

Sorry for derailing onto nekros. But I feel he is in a similar position to volt. But I know he will get buffed much sooner.

[Solaurus]

So why not? Banshee only have Sonar, so buff banshee?

E. shield is much powerful than Sonar if Multiple over 4 shield, and it's the most powerful weapon damage buff power in 10.0 warframe.

E. shield buff damage , bullet speed, effect range<----just like a hack.

So you still want more?

No one said Banshee was balanced. No one talked about her. I think she needs a buff too but don't argue a broken frame with another. That's just laughable. Also, Ele. shield doesn't just add more and more damage the more shields you shoot through. Just because Banshee has one good skill doesn't mean Volt has to. Sometimes I don't think you even know the meaning of balance. Making every frame top tier and viable is balance. We will sart making Banshee topics after Volt gets buffed. Happy there slugger?

Edit: Ele.Shield isn't the strongest buff in game. It adds Ele.damage which is the weakest element in game. It doesn't have armor ignore anymore as that was ninja nerfed. Sonar adds a 4x damage buff, Nova's ult adds 2x damage and a slow, and Rhino Roar adds a significant amount of damage. Ele.shield doesn't do anything but sit around be situational.

Edited September 18, 2013 by Solaurus

[XDeathCoreX]

So why not? Banshee only have Sonar, so buff banshee?

 

E. shield is much powerful than Sonar if Multiple over 4 shield, and it's the most powerful weapon damage buff power in 10.0 warframe.

E. shield buff damage , bullet speed, effect range<----just like a hack.

So you still want more?

Don't remember saying buff...And why should a warframe just have 1-2 useful skills? Wouldn't that be considered a waste?

[cary2010haha]

Actually, i just wear one-two power pre frame,  Energy is so less,  players if going to play 100-200level games just in put all energy to the most useful power.(and change all other power slot to use frame defense mods)

 

Like nova, only ulta need to be use

rhino, iron skin + stomp/roar(mods are totally different, use both power means one skill super weak or short time)

frost, power 3 only

saryn, power 4 only

Ember, power 3 and 4 only(she 's no good for high levels now)

ex: power 1 and 2 only.

Mag: power 1 only

trinity: power 2 and 4 only

ASH: power 2 and 4

Loki: power 2 and 4

vauban: power 3 and 4

NYX power 1 and 3

and Volt have 2 and 3

Volt's power 2 is the only team speed buff power

and  3 is the most powerful weapon damage buff power

so why buff volt again and again?

[TheGambler_BR]

The fact that players only use a handful of mods do NOT justify volt's current state. 

In fact, it only serves to show just how problematic the armor/health exponential increase is and how it affects the most varied frames.

 

The powers people use are almost exclusively utility powers. When they don't deal (enough) damage, they come with a stun/disable/debuff of some sort that makes the power useful across all levels. Invisibility, invulnerability, stuns and damage increases. 

The only exception to this rule would be nova's a-drop, which scales according to your weapon's (and skill to shoot it).

 

(Also, I use Ash's shuriken all the bloody time. 1k serrated blade damage is nothing to be frowned upon)

[Glisp]

Seems yours and everyone else's advice is just to use shield, is shield all Volt has? Do you place other mods in the other power slots? If y'all do, NO ONE know show to truly use Volt. And it's all the Devs fault. At lest use speed. It's worth it.

 

And you people should stop bringing Corpus into this, they are a worthless no armor bunch with nothing to make up for it which makes all y'all opinions invalid and infested are just tough and resilient towards light. Light armor or not. They don't even budge when hit with light. Doesn't phase them at all. So useless.

Y'all? lol goes to show how intelligent you are...

 

Warframe is more than just about seeing how much damage you can do. People don't seem to understand this. Sometimes a good utility ability works just as well as a direct damage ability. Look at Loki. In the right hands, he's one of the best frames in the game. Players also seem to forget the concept of team work in multiplayer. And Electric Sheild can be used by other players btw, not just volt players that cast it. even without armor ignore, the range it offers is still useful. You want to pierce armor while firing through the shield? Put some armor piercing mods on your guns stupid.

 

The people whining and *@##$ing in this thread and saying "BAH I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG" just proves how immature they are. Then again, the forums and Region chat are full of retards like this so it's to be expected.

Edited September 18, 2013 by Glisp

[TunaMayo]

Y'all? lol goes to show how intelligent you are...

 

Warframe is more than just about seeing how much damage you can do. People don't seem to understand this. Sometimes a good utility ability works just as well as a direct damage ability. Look at Loki. In the right hands, he's one of the best frames in the game. Players also seem to forget the concept of team work in multiplayer. And Electric Sheild can be used by other players btw, not just volt players that cast it. even without armor ignore, the range it offers is still useful. You want to pierce armor while firing through the shield? Put some armor piercing mods on your guns stupid.

 

The people whining and *@##$ing in this thread and saying "BAH I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG" just proves how immature they are. Then again, the forums and Region chat are full of retards like this so it's to be expected.

Shield is good. No volt lover says it isn't. It is his best skill by far. If guns retained armour ignore or the shield was effected by stretch, that would be nice. But it is still a good skill.

The point is, volts kit as a whole is bad. He is supposed to be god of lightning, a high damage lightning caster.

Yet he has the lowest possible energy cap, one power that emphasises gun use, another that emphasises melee use and two pitiful damage powers.

Volt has electric shield, banshee has sonar, frost has snowglobe. All good powers, but that doesn't mean the frames couldn't use work.

[A1CZERO]

Y'all? lol goes to show how intelligent you are...

Cute ad hominem. Because shortening words = stupid. I guess lol must = extra stupid by that logic.

Look at Loki.

Loki? The frame with 4 fully functional and useful abilities? We are looking at him and want Volt and other frames to "work" like he does.

You want to pierce armor while firing through the shield? Put some armor piercing mods on your guns stupid.

We want it to do damage. We want all his damage abilities to do damage. Volt is the "alternative to gunplay" yet only promotes gunplay or rushing.

You are complaining about people here saying they're right and you're wrong yet you're doing the same thing only with nothing to back you up besides calling everyone idiots.

Grow up. If you want anyone to listen to you back up your claims with facts instead of resorting to name calling.

[XDeathCoreX]

Y'all? lol goes to show how intelligent you are...

 

Warframe is more than just about seeing how much damage you can do. People don't seem to understand this. Sometimes a good utility ability works just as well as a direct damage ability. Look at Loki. In the right hands, he's one of the best frames in the game. Players also seem to forget the concept of team work in multiplayer. And Electric Sheild can be used by other players btw, not just volt players that cast it. even without armor ignore, the range it offers is still useful. You want to pierce armor while firing through the shield? Put some armor piercing mods on your guns stupid.

 

The people whining and *@##$ing in this thread and saying "BAH I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG" just proves how immature they are. Then again, the forums and Region chat are full of retards like this so it's to be expected.

You quoted my post, but what you said had nothing to do with it... Not once did I ever say weak or damage and also mentioned "Speed" being worth using even though it's not damage. You seem to be talking to the wrong person.  Didn't mention buff at all either.

 

Doesn't seem like you guys are smart at all and it shows.

 

All I ever did was ask for how Volt should use the 3 other neglected skills and not just Shield and how to use them on anything but Corpus. But everyone keeps talking about shield as if it's the only thing that should matter. A warframe should be able to make use of all his powers, not just one. And not just against one faction(Where is the utility in that?)

 

So how would you use the three other skills? If you cannot answer that especially against infested then it looks like Volt skills need some looking at, except speed.

 

Oh and you have something against southerners that use "y'all"? I can point you to a famous Chef who uses it a lot. That silly comment alone shows how intelligent you are.

Edited September 18, 2013 by XDeathCoreX

[Solaurus]

Y'all? lol goes to show how intelligent you are...

 

Warframe is more than just about seeing how much damage you can do. People don't seem to understand this. Sometimes a good utility ability works just as well as a direct damage ability. Look at Loki. In the right hands, he's one of the best frames in the game. Players also seem to forget the concept of team work in multiplayer. And Electric Sheild can be used by other players btw, not just volt players that cast it. even without armor ignore, the range it offers is still useful. You want to pierce armor while firing through the shield? Put some armor piercing mods on your guns stupid.

 

The people whining and *@##$ing in this thread and saying "BAH I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG" just proves how immature they are. Then again, the forums and Region chat are full of retards like this so it's to be expected.

Yup just becuase we disagree with you we are all retarted, bottomfeeding, idiots and you're right all the time because your a genius.

/sarcasm

[TunaMayo]

Yup just becuase we disagree with you we are all retarted, bottomfeeding, idiots and you're right all the time because your a genius.

/sarcasm

 

Careful guys. Don't let him derail the thread. Volt is more important than Glisp.

[Solaurus]

They should buff nekros shields to 100 thats all i ask

Topic is about Volt. Not Nekros mang.

[Renkage]

Mabye it is because I like the idea of slashing at the speed of light, but I use him as a melee hit and run specialist.

 

I would like to see the speed buff also add some sort of defense boost are something along with it (think of it as being the Flash)...Bah, I'm just being selfish, apparently people play him more as a caster.

[WondahBoah]

I would not shed a tear if they scrapped his kit, save for a new chain lightning shock, and rebuilt him bottom up.

Just as long as he has a theme and sticks to it.

Preferably the alternative to gunplay; alternative should mean I can get away with using skills 50 percent of the time and not be gimped in my killing capability. So yes, volt needs that energy boost.

Did I make this as neutral-positive as possible? I love Volt, I just don't want to be textually assaulted by ignorant elitists (oops) because of it

[Flackenstien]

I'll say it again:

● Make Shock a reliable taser, and buff its damage to a respectable amount.

 

● Keep Speed as is. (At a toggle for FOV-warping abilities.)

 

● Allow Shield to be Stretched, (if it can't still), and let it be compatible with +Power Strength, (Focus & Storm Helmet), Roar & Sonar are and they aren't restricted to Electric damage.

 

● Return Overload's old animation, current one is just way too dangerously long for what it does to non-Corpus. 

Optional: Boost Volt's run speed to 1.1 or 1.15

Edited October 3, 2013 by Flackenstien

[Cursor]

I'll say it again:

● Make Shock a reliable taser, and buff its damage to a respectable amount.

 

● Keep Speed as is. (At a toggle for FOV-warping abilities.)

 

● Allow Shield to be Stretched, (if it can't still), and let it be compatible with +Power Strength, (Focus & Storm Helmet), Roar & Sonar are and they aren't restricted to Electric damage.

 

● Return Overload's old animation, current one is just way too dangerously long for what it does to non-Corpus. 

Optional: Boost Volt's run speed to 1.1 or 1.15

 

If just these things happened and nothing else I'd be hella pleased.

[TunaMayo]

I'll say it again:

● Make Shock a reliable taser, and buff its damage to a respectable amount.

 

● Keep Speed as is. (At a toggle for FOV-warping abilities.)

 

● Allow Shield to be Stretched, (if it can't still), and let it be compatible with +Power Strength, (Focus & Storm Helmet), Roar & Sonar are and they aren't restricted to Electric damage.

 

● Return Overload's old animation, current one is just way too dangerously long for what it does to non-Corpus. 

Optional: Boost Volt's run speed to 1.1 or 1.15

I'd still prefer his ult to be completley changed. Perhaps something that can utilise speed (synergy), ie a c reating an electric field around volt that damages and stuns.