The Huge Amount Of Important Story That Could Have Been Added With 15.

[Innocent_Flower]

Warframe has a couple of quests, a few bits of lore attached to items and the occasional event. 

 

 

There's nothing that feels personaly crafted by the player. Update 15 could have done that. We could have made our own stories with the new factions. We could have had intrigue. We could have had missions feel bigger than random dungeons we're spawned in with archwing. We could have had a major stalker overhaul. 

 

Examples of what we're missing out on;

 

- Player generated storylines from syndicates. Incentives for betrayal, incentives for loyalty. Differences in dialogue for each player as they rise through the ranks, rise through the ranks by playing another faction. Different dialogue for players who've split from their first faction or only support one faction. Different missions too; A steadfast player would get the missions that only the most trusted would obtain. A traitor or flighty player would get the missions that are difficult and less vital to the cause because they're more expendable. The stalker for each faction would speak to a traitor differently than to a regular enemy. Maybe you could be a mercenary character that never sticks to any faction, undertaking the quests of whoever offers the best rewards. The mercenary getting reputation amoungst all the factions in such a way that they can unlock the missions for high pay without any faction specific rewards. 

 

 

When I first read the red veil description I thought them against corrupt individuals in political power and the damage they do lower down the tree. With them being the enemy of the arbiters and the fact that their leader looks like the stalker I then began to consider that the "corruption" is really the mistreatment of orokin artifacts and cultural separation from orokin ways. 

- Lower guardians versus lower guardians. The remains of the non-tenno orokin military split between Old ways and the new. I'm thinking lower guardians because the figureheads for these factions both appear to wear an outifit mixed of both human suit and tenno warframe. One side believing the tenno can be forgiven and another believing the tenno right. Prime versus dragon if you will. 

- (there's a lower guardian model in that case. Stalker gets a visual change so he isn't excalibro with a different helmet) 

 

There's so much story in that one conflict. You could learn what happened at the end of the old war from two highly subjective factions (so it'd still be mysterious) DE could also explore other important ideological issues through syndicate conflict like progress/environmentalism with Suda/loka or socialism/capitalism with meridian/perrin. 

Edited November 13, 2014 by Innocent_Flower

[arch111]

Very good points. I do feel that given time, this is what the Syndicates will be used for, quests and event fuel since the big Events will stop being a thing.

I am, like you wondering about the Syndicates motives and undetlying struggle.

And their view of Lotus. So far no one has stated their standing with her as far as I know?

[Vadrigos]

Very good points. I do feel that given time, this is what the Syndicates will be used for, quests and event fuel since the big Events will stop being a thing.

I am, like you wondering about the Syndicates motives and undetlying struggle.

And their view of Lotus. So far no one has stated their standing with her as far as I know?

The Lotus is more of our handler than our master. She finds us jobs. We pick which we want to do. 

[arch111]

Sure, but there have been clear hate and disslike from both Lotus and bosses.

She is not some machine, she feels and act on those emotions, we have seen this many times now.

It is therefore surprising, to me at least, nothing has been explored so far. Where do Lotus cast her allegience?

The Lotus-network are allways at work behind the scenes, at some point interest may collide ...

[arch111]

Well, first Sentients are still not revealed.

Second, Lotus is now assumed to be a AI, still not confirmed.

Third, Lotus was active during the War as we know from the Mirage Quest. And against the Sentients whoever they were.

Fourth, are we mindless? I think Tenno are anarchs if anything, but still bound by the common Code.

Fifth, the Orokin was loosing on the brink of death when they created the warframes.

So I struggle to follow the logic here.

Edited November 12, 2014 by arch111

[arch111]

If you wish to explore logic in names, one persistent theory is that Humans were Sentients, the Orokin Cold Gold Emperors, machine overlords. Sentients as opposed to non-sentients.

But I see where you are going with this, and I guess we soon will find out.

[Innocent_Flower]

If you wish to explore logic in names, one persistent theory is that Humans were Sentients, the Orokin Cold Gold Emperors, machine overlords. Sentients as opposed to non-sentients.

But I see where you are going with this, and I guess we soon will find out.

Very interesting. I can see this suported by the fact that orokin defences use soldiers not their own. However the orokin soldiers at the time were human (unless corrupted give reports). Not to say that humans can't have an AI government.