Mrhattu Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Here's proof for that. Pistols are so good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkwave1098 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Holy crap dat Hornet Strike.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrhattu Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 I still need 1 more rank for it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argoms Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I think afuris may be better- more sustained dps ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrhattu Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) I think afuris may be better- more sustained dps ^^Twin Vipers have more crit so that equals more damage. I have tested it. Might post a video for that too Edited May 16, 2013 by Mrhattu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogamu Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 *goes to farm fusion cores immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argoms Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Twin Vipers have more crit so that equals more damage. I have tested it. Might post a video for that too This may not be the case if you manage to kill the thing in a single (well, two furis) afuris magazine (which is roughly 3x the size of a twin vipers one), since there'd be no reload delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriKlein Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) Greetings. 1) You've fought a level 14 Jackal. This is a very low level, prone to defeat and rather easy to conquer. Non-upgraded frames and weapons, even under-powered ones, should be able to overcome it without hindrance.2) You've used maxed mods of every elemental, barrel diffusion and a near-max Hornet Strike (+200% damage increase, meaning Viper's 16 base damage per shot is now 48). Not everyone have these, definitely not a maxed Hornet Strike, which is considered a privilege and would turn most any pistol onto a much stronger version than it is under normal circumstance which most players are in. Therefore, I would not be quick to conclude that this weapon is formidable based upon this sole experience.Best Regards, Edited May 16, 2013 by OriKlein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonicusMaximus Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 dat 200% Hornet Strike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyNerd Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) I changed my mind about twin vipers after getting them ranked, but this is a whole new level of perversion. Only thing is, I wouldn't max elemental damage and gambit. I'd leave out 1 rank of each and put in no return as far as it goes, or at least fix up something to get that armor pen. Them corpus be armored. Edited May 16, 2013 by DeadlyNerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonboss Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) I have Twin vipers at lvl 30 and can confirm that they are indeed the conveyors of a numerical death cloud whenever they are shot. I have max multishot, max crit, 120% dmg, some ammo mods, and I believe max fire rate. They are better than Afuris at the same level, though Afuris arguably has better crowd control due to larger mag. Edited May 16, 2013 by dragonboss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrhattu Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Greetings. 1) You've fought a level 14 Jackal. This is a very low level, prone to defeat and rather easy to conquer. Non-upgraded frames and weapons, even under-powered ones, should be able to overcome it without hindrance. 2) You've used maxed mods of every elemental, barrel diffusion and a near-max Hornet Strike (+200% damage increase, meaning Viper's 16 base damage per shot is now 48). Not everyone have these, definitely not a maxed Hornet Strike, which is considered a privilege and would turn most any pistol onto a much stronger version than it is under normal circumstance which most players are in. Therefore, I would not be quick to conclude that this weapon is formidable based upon this sole experience. Best Regards, I didn't find any alerts at the moment with higher level jackal in them. sadface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonious Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 At first, I was like: "WTF you can get past his shields??!!" And then I realized: "Oh yeah, this guy is in solo mode" Bosses are way easier in solo mode, you can't do the same kind of thing online... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argoms Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 At first, I was like: "WTF you can get past his shields??!!" And then I realized: "Oh yeah, this guy is in solo mode" Bosses are way easier in solo mode, you can't do the same kind of thing online... Unless you get all four people to do this. I wonder if you could combo it with banshee's sonar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 You forgot the eletrical shield of volt increase a lot the damage against corpus.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDroid Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 At first, I was like: "WTF you can get past his shields??!!" And then I realized: "Oh yeah, this guy is in solo mode" Bosses are way easier in solo mode, you can't do the same kind of thing online... Do the Jackal mechanics work differently in Solo mode? even when I solo I tend to set it to Private.. As for the Twin Vipers, I use them myself and they are very powerful with high level mods but the build in the video is more of an anti-boss one with very high burst damage rather than a secondary that can be used in a sustained fight. I think the Twin Vipers pretty much require Trick Mag and Quickdraw (max ammo and reload speed) under normal circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonicusMaximus Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Do the Jackal mechanics work differently in Solo mode? even when I solo I tend to set it to Private.. As for the Twin Vipers, I use them myself and they are very powerful with high level mods but the build in the video is more of an anti-boss one with very high burst damage rather than a secondary that can be used in a sustained fight. I think the Twin Vipers pretty much require Trick Mag and Quickdraw (max ammo and reload speed) under normal circumstances. More players in a game add exponentially more health/shield to bosses. If he did his super-Twin-Vipers in a game with 4 other people who did not use that kind of burst DPS weapons, it would have taken a lot longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEsoJD Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Level 14 Jackal... Impressive I guess : 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrummerSoul13 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I personally think jackal is too low leveled, If you can down sargas ruk/ hek in 30 seconds solo with them vipers then I'll agree to how OP it is. + the mods in the vid was using were waaaaaaaay to hard to get for the majority...really? 200% hornet strike?! I'm still stuck with mine at 60% haha. upgrading with fusion cores are expensive as heck,+ I've been getting nothing but common 3 fusion cores from kappa and xini recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlastGoggles Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 What Orokin Reactor did you use to record this? Kidding; nice job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulfighter Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Holy crap dat Hornet Strike.. it's more about the elec mod and volt's shield which charge bullets that go through with additional elec damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulEchelon Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 And here I thought he was talking about the REAL Jackal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaladun Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I admit vipers are a mean as hell bullet storm at low levels but they really start to trail off come lvl 25ish where I had to switch to something with a bigger kick. Also because of their rediculous rate of fire its gona be hard to tweak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAimbot Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Vipers certainly can put out a hell of a lot of damage. Not for long, but hey, if you're using an ammo-efficient primary, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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