Dogefighter Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Noctowl isn't a unique type combo though. Normal flying is the norm. wait wasnt he psy/fly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Everybody always flipped shiße over them, but i usually preferred unique type combos, like breloom, noctowl, scizor, etc Who would choose Scizor? I mean, just one small Fire attack and Scizor's down. wait wasnt he psy/fly Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 wait wasnt he psy/fly nope wtf Who would choose Scizor? I mean, just one small Fire attack and Scizor's down. Nope. I would Fire is his ONLY weakness, so while it can do severe damage, he takes pretty much everything else in stride aside from that, he is tanky and powerful, and has one of my favorite abilities, technician technician gives a 1.5x damage boost to any move with 60 or less power, which is incredibly useful for 60 power priority moves like bullet punch, which get kicked up to 90. He can also learn sword dance and iron defense. gimme a sec and i'll look at my scizor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Legolegend144 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Who would choose Scizor? I mean, just one small Fire attack and Scizor's down. It's a beast with stab technician bullet punches and stab U-turns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Okay, my scizor: Level 74 >Moves 233 HP Swords Dance 198 Attack Bullet Punch 195 Defense X Scissor 110 Sp. Attack Iron head 151 Sp. Defense 128 Speed Bold Nature Technician Scizorite It's a beast with stab technician bullet punches and stab U-turns ^This guy gets it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) I would Fire is his ONLY weakness, so while it can do severe damage, he takes pretty much everything else in stride aside from that, he is tanky and powerful, and has one of my favorite abilities, technician technician gives a 1.5x damage boost to any move with 60 or less power, which is incredibly useful for 60 power priority moves like bullet punch, which get kicked up to 90. He can also learn sword dance and iron defense. gimme a sec and i'll look at my scizor It lacks the speed that Scyther has (of course, unless we stuff it with Vitamins), despite the Attack and Defence increase, which would make U-turn go slower. I just tend to use Blaziken for general Bug/Ice/Grass sweeping, and it has been effective so far, which might be why I am biased against Scizor. And about that Bullet Punch, there is that, but I think my Blaziken can tank quite some blows. Edited August 16, 2015 by Renegade343 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Legolegend144 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Breloom is actually the odd choice for a pokemon, considering that Gale Wings Talonflames are everywhere, and they absolutely tear through the relatively frail Breloom. This of course only applies to competitive battling, if you're into that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Legolegend144 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 It lacks the speed that Scyther has (of course, unless we stuff it with Vitamins), despite the Attack and Defence increase, which would make U-turn go slower. I just tend to use Blaziken for general Bug/Ice/Grass sweeping, and it has been effective so far, which might be why I am biased against Scizor. And about that Bullet Punch, there is that, but I think my Blaziken can tank quite some blows. Competitively speaking, that isn't even a fair comparison. Blaziken is one of the strongest non-legends in the game at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 It lacks the speed that Scyther has (of course, unless we stuff it with Vitamins), despite the Attack and Defence increase, which would make U-turn go slower. I just tend to use Blaziken for general Bug/Ice/Grass sweeping, and it has been effective so far, which might be why I am biased against Scizor. And about that Bullet Punch, there is that, but I think my Blaziken can tank quite some blows. it isn't intended to fight fire types tho if a u turn is too risky just switch out Worst case scenario i keep scizor in my back slot and throw out zoroark to see what's up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) Breloom is actually the odd choice for a pokemon, considering that Gale Wings Talonflames are everywhere, and they absolutely tear through the relatively frail Breloom. This of course only applies to competitive battling, if you're into that sort of thing. Indeed but barring that scenario, in which you would switch out until it's dead, it can be fairly tanky i have seed bomb, leech seed, strength (which i need to change), and Sky Uppercut, so it's good against a fairly wide variety of types im thinking swapping strength for iron tail, giga drain, or drain punch maybe even synthesis Edited August 16, 2015 by Dogefighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Legolegend144 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Indeed but barring that scenario, in which you would switch out until it's dead, it can be fairly tanky i have seed bomb, leech seed, strength (which i need to change), and Sky Uppercut, so it's good against a fairly wide variety of types Wait, no spore? Spore is Breloom's saving grace. That, and his amazing abilities. I run a technician set with mach punch, rock tomb, spore, and bullet seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 it isn't intended to fight fire types tho if a u turn is too risky just switch out True that. Worst case scenario i keep scizor in my back slot and throw out zoroark to see what's up There is that, but I remembered I built my Blaziken around Special Fire/Fighting moves, which might tear up Zoroark if he comes out. I really need to start searching for that emulator to see my build again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Wait, no spore? Spore is Breloom's saving grace. That, and his amazing abilities. I run a technician set with mach punch, rock tomb, spore, and bullet seed. i'd probably drop tomb and bullet seed, but mach punch could be a good replacement for strength as far as spore goes, maybe. I've never really looked into it, but a 100% accuracy sleep stat proc could be really good. sadly it seems in gen VI it no longer affects other grass types, pkm with safety goggles, or pkm with overcoat. Maybe, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Grihaly Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 -snip- Ah, the thread is back to normal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 i'd probably drop tomb and bullet seed, but mach punch could be a good replacement for strength Rock Tomb's alright if you need it as an impromptu counter to Flying (especially those Fire/Flying types), and if Breloom has a high Speed and Attack value. But yes, probably something else in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Legolegend144 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Rock Tomb's alright if you need it as an impromptu counter to Flying (especially those Fire/Flying types), and if Breloom has a high Speed and Attack value. But yes, probably something else in the long run. I'm treating this on a strictly competitive basis. Technician Rock Tomb has 90 base power with the added slowing effect. That's not something to be overlooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I'm treating this on a strictly competitive basis. Technician Rock Tomb has 90 base power with the added slowing effect. That's not something to be overlooked. True, true. Hrm. I do like leech seed, but i suppose it could be changed. However if i get into a scenario where i'd have to use it on, say, a flying type (the only scenario that comes to mind), i'd much rather switch out because it could survive rock slide and land a 4x flying attack on breloom. Once again though, i usually probe the waters with zoroark first BTW, lego, what's your friend code Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Legolegend144 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) True, true. Hrm. I do like leech seed, but i suppose it could be changed. However if i get into a scenario where i'd have to use it on, say, a flying type (the only scenario that comes to mind), i'd much rather switch out because it could survive rock slide and land a 4x flying attack on breloom. Once again though, i usually probe the waters with zoroark first BTW, lego, what's your friend code Rock Tomb covers Breloom's major weaknesses: Fire and Flying. Using it on a switch is ideal, since the opposing pokemon is now at -1 Speed, and if it was say a talonflame or a charizard, it'll be dead regardless of hazard damage. Edited August 16, 2015 by (PS4)Legolegend144 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Rock Tomb covers Breloom's major weaknesses: Fire and Flying. Using it on a switch is ideal, since the opposing pokemon is now at -1 Speed, and if it was say a talonflame or a charizard, it'll be dead regardless of hazard damage. Point. I dunno if i wanna give up leech seed for it, though, since strength is already being switched for spore. Add me, btw. my friend code is 0361 - 7327 - 3383 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Legolegend144 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Point. I dunno if i wanna give up leech seed for it, though, since strength is already being switched for spore. Add me, btw. my friend code is 0361 - 7327 - 3383 Will do. And I have too many shroomish lying around anyway, so you're getting one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 And I have too many shroomish lying around anyway, so you're getting one. Were you breeding them for the best EV possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Legolegend144 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Were you breeding them for the best EV possible? IV breeding, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogefighter Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Will do. And I have too many shroomish lying around anyway, so you're getting one. errr i'm good unless you have one with all 6 iv's or up Sooooooo............battle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 IV breeding, yes. Right, IV. I keep on mixing those two up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Legolegend144 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 errr i'm good unless you have one with all 6 iv's or up Sooooooo............battle? Eh... I don't have a viable team at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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