H Draco, No Exploits, Just Play As It's Intended To Be Played

[Loswaith]

Exploit, despite its negative connotation - "unfair advantage" - which you are implying here, can also mean "making full use of a resource." If I want to burn through 20,000 reputation quickly and go about my day, Draco is one of the most efficient ways to do it. I can solo Draco with Loki until very high waves... so what?

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Or you could just go about your day (presuming you mean in game) and earn that 20k rep passively by just playing the game.  You only need the rep to get stuff to play the game with more mods anyway. Or instead of just one or two stages do 4-6 and get the 20k anyway.

Edited July 30, 2015 by Loswaith

[stoybot]

Or you could just go about your day (presuming you mean in game) and earn that 20k rep passively by just playing the game.  You only need the rep to get stuff to play the game with more mods anyway. Or instead of just one or two stages do 4-6 and get the 20k anyway.

 

Your pressumption was wrong. I don't do Draco when I plan to play for a few hours. Also, there's a lot more you can do with that reputation. Selling syndicate mods and weapons (or giving them away to friends), as well as free syandanas for arcanes. Doing 4-6 runs instead of 1 is not efficient, and that's what Draco is all about. I'm not arguing with the bad habits that it forms. I've seen the MR10+ "Draco-children" that can't find their way around another tileset, and I think it's a pretty bad idea for beginners to start there. Unlike many others, however, I recognize that people have a choice in how they play and respect their decisions.

[SickoSike]

Your pressumption was wrong. I don't do Draco when I plan to play for a few hours. Also, there's a lot more you can do with that reputation. Selling syndicate mods and weapons (or giving them away to friends), as well as free syandanas for arcanes. Doing 4-6 runs instead of 1 is not efficient, and that's what Draco is all about. I'm not arguing with the bad habits that it forms. I've seen the MR10+ "Draco-children" that can't find their way around another tileset, and I think it's a pretty bad idea for beginners to start there. Unlike many others, however, I recognize that people have a choice in how they play and respect their decisions.

People would say that's how they play the game.. however fact is... most of the people who farm Draco on a daily basis AFK or Alt tab easily especially when playing mesa, that by no mean is really playing at all, rather just be there, afk do other things while not actually be on their screens and having a good time with other players. That ain't fun at all, it's not the way DE had wanted, nor is it the way the community should be defending this type of rotten gameplay. I ain't against efficiency, but don't try to call it efficient or using any brains in that matter when anyone can do that.

You can ask any other people outside of these forums, defending this poor play style and ask them if that's really playing or actually earning something real to reward yourself when you're doing nothing, I dare anyone to try recruiting people to play this game while showing how they are playing Draco to them. That ain't normal, it ain't healthy and the core game-play and rewards needs to be fixed so that people won't abuse maps like Draco all the time.

Edited July 30, 2015 by MikeTheAshmigo

[Fifield]

Due to how spawns work in interception every enemy unit killed is instantly replaced by new one.

 

Wow, didn't know that.  If you're sure, this should definitely be changed.

[stoybot]

People would say that's how they play the game.. however fact is... most of the people who farm Draco on a daily basis AFK or Alt tab easily especially when playing mesa, that by no mean is really playing at all, rather just be there, afk do other things while not actually be on their screens and having a good time with other players. That ain't fun at all, it's not the way DE had wanted, nor is it the way the community should be defending this type of rotten gameplay. I ain't against efficiency, but don't try to call it efficient or using any brains in that matter when anyone can do that.

You can ask any other people outside of these forums, defending this poor play style and ask them if that's really playing or actually earning something real to reward yourself when you're doing nothing, I dare anyone to try recruiting people to play this game while showing how they are playing Draco to them. That ain't normal, it ain't healthy and the core game-play and rewards needs to be fixed so that people won't abuse maps like Draco all the time.

 

Do you mind making an actual argument? I suggest you also look up the definition of efficiency.

[SickoSike]

Do you mind making an actual argument? I suggest you also look up the definition of efficiency.

My argument is that the game is broken, map tiles needs to be fixed and interception should be played as it is, not with a bunch of players thinking they have bright minds to just AFK while playing a game.

I suggest you look up the word Efficient, and the word Loot cave and Laziness. Efficiency should not be tied up with Draco, anyone with a braincell can try to attempt to do a run there easily and exploit the spawns.

To start off, I am NOT saying loot caves or "press 4 to win" (p4tw) shouldn't exist. In fact, they represent a very important aspect of the game and they will always exist eitherway. What I am saying is that it should not ever be the best in terms of efficiency (if ignoring simplicity and ease of execution). Sadly, DE doesn't seem to have a grasp on how to deliver on that yet.

[(PSN)Sytnik]

After taking part in one of many thousands of the daily 'exploits' using Mesa on Draco and stopping after 4 rounds, I wondered what was the point.

 

It's so easy to go 4 rounds anyway and it's a heck of a lot more fun than:

a) being Mesa who gets close to zero XP;

b) being Trinity who gets yelled at for either not having any enemies left to EV or not being in the SnowGlobe and trying to explain why between EVing enemies every 4s;

c) Frost who does little else than protect Mesa.

 

Yes, a 4th player can leech off them with some unranked warframe.  Is that the point?

 

So I asked in Recruitment: "H Draco, no exploits, just play as it's intended to be played"

 

Really hard to get people,  took about 10 mins using 2 continents.  One kid raged and called us noobs for not using an exploit.

But we stomped Draco and had fun doing so.

Dare to not be a sheep and think outside your conditioning.  Play like a Tenno.  Play like a Warrior-God.

I and I'm sure some others would very much appreciate it if you could get a dictionary turn it to the E and then have someone deck you across the face with it. This op is the biggest fail I've seen on these forums. Your entire point is a failure from the onset of failing to use exploit properly several times. Spell things wrong by all means but at the least use words in the context they were made for.

[FelisImpurrator]

Do you mind making an actual argument? I suggest you also look up the definition of efficiency.

TL;DR efficiency shouldn't only exist on a small handful of nodes in a vast sea of crap.

 

Nerf Draco, buff everything else to be equally competitive, make the "most efficient way to play the game" actually playing the game instead of aimbotting.

[FelisImpurrator]

 

I and I'm sure some others would very much appreciate it if you could escort yourself out of the thread and come back when you have an actual, constructive contribution to the thread. Post on the forums by all means, but at least bring more to the table than pointless attacks.

[YasaiTsume]

Draco builds are not an exploit. But if people enjoy easy boring Affinity farm so be it. Warframe was build to be a squad based tactical game anyway. If they decide to min max to get the most out of it then there is technically nothing wrong. 

For one I enjoy going to Draco with some random pubbies and try fun builds out. Like 2.0 Attackspeed Exalted Blade. Or Natural Talent PStrength Psychic Bolts. Or even Natural Talent Stomp.

That being said, people who recruit based on MR are laughable. Cos it is so hard to level up weapons on Draco. Cos it takes more than pressing 1 key for 30 minutes XD