SoulEchelon Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I suggest everyone watch this; and I apologize if this has already been posted. He rambles a little, but explains just how much grinding will be needed for these new research weapons. Things to keep in mind: 1. The information obtained from the Wiki is datamined. That means that there's a chance that it MIGHT not be correct. Not only that, the people that post on the wiki can't always be trusted. We will only know for sure when someone starts crafting these weapons. 2. DE isn't a dictatorship. They've changed things before and have shown themselves to be flexible if enough players disagree with things. If these research costs indeed show themselves to be far too much or take far too much time, DE might change them. Or might not. 3. These weapons are supposed to be the answer to Warframe's "Endgame". At least, it seems that way since the items and time needed are borderline outrageous. 4. WE DO NOT NEED THESE WEAPONS. Infact, according to the wiki, most of them aren't really that much better than our current weapons. You won't need these new research weapons to continue playing the game. My opinion: I've been a pretty stalwart advocate of almost everything DE has done. I have an open mind and all, but when I see just how long it'll take to make this stuff...and how many materials needed...and the fact that I either must buy a Forma or get extremely lucky and trip over one... I just can't see myself actually trying to get these new weapons. Some of them sound really interesting and fun - almost definitely going to at least try for that flamethrower- but freakin' hell... I remember comparing Warframe to Vindictus when it came to grinding. Vindictus was horrible with it because the items you needed to craft the higher level weapons were incredibly rare. Not only did you have to fight bosses that take upwards to almost an hour to defeat, but you could only fight them a few times a week, and the items they dropped were 99% of the time trash, while that 1% was the true reward. For you Vindictus players - Not once...ever...did I obtain Elchulus' tear. Not. Once. Warframe was vastly different. I felt rewarded crafting new weapons and stuff because it didn't take extremely long and the components needed were just rare enough so that I didn't get overly frustrated. But now, it seems Warframe is becoming exactly what Vindictus is - only in a different way. Instead of horrendously rare loot, we now need to find tons upon tons of uncommon loot. Vin still beats out Warframe in excessive grinding, but Warframe is definitely not far behind...and at least in Vindictus, the bosses you had to grind were relatively hard battles. But...at the same time, when it came to Vindictus, you needed those stronger armors and weapons to continue playing the higher level content. Whereas in Warframe, we don't need these new weapons or warframes to continue playing. That's something to think about. My advice: At the very least, make it so that we can craft multiples of the same item. I'd rather have a "cluttered" foundry filled with multiples so I can click on each of them and craft than what we currently have now. If I want to unclutter, I can just simply sale what I don't want. This will help with the horrendous amount of time needed to craft everything. I thought they were going to work on a way to introduce less grindy stuff. Here's hoping the next update will do exactly that, because this one seems chalk full of just...more grinding. And that's my two cents. I'm not bashing DE, not bashing Warframe, not attacking anyone in particular. Just putting forth info and stating my opinion. Do with it what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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