Tennonat Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I feel like the Mastery Requirement for the Tonkor should be raised. Almost every low rank player i see is using a Tonkor, I really think the requirement should be Rank 15 / 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyDevil Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I don't have a problem with low rank players using it, but the mastery should be at least rank 12. Most of the very powerful weapons should be set to 12 to give players a sense of progression, equipment wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglriousB Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 It's fine as it is. I assume you're enjoying the weapon, and even if not, others out there do. So whether they get it at MR8 or MR12 should be of no concern to you. Also it's a shame if people have go Draco things up just to get that MR number to get the weapon they want. It's only a drag to them and it changes nothing for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichouette Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 The devs themselves stated that MR requirement are a mess right now. Just wait for them to re-equilibrate it. (still laughing at boltace & kronen MR requirement :D ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennonat Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 Just now, Trichouette said: The devs themselves stated that MR requirement are a mess right now. Just wait for them to re-equilibrate it. I see, thank you for letting me know, it is a mess indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennonat Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, InglriousB said: It's fine as it is. I assume you're enjoying the weapon, and even if not, others out there do. So whether they get it at MR8 or MR12 should be of no concern to you. It's a powerful weapon that i think should be used by high ranked players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennonat Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 10 minutes ago, EmptyDevil said: I don't have a problem with low rank players using it, but the mastery should be at least rank 12. Most of the very powerful weapons should be set to 12 to give players a sense of progression, equipment wise. I fully agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senpai-Valkyr Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Well, what weapons should they be using then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglriousB Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Just now, Tennonat said: It's a powerful weapon that i think should be used by high ranked players. MR does not equal skill! It only shows how much of the game you have unlocked. Judging by it is already the stupidest thing in the entire world, so you can see that MR requirements also make little sense. If a player wants to have a good weapon and can obtain it via his capabilites of farming and skill then that's enough for the amount of skill he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennonat Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 Just now, Senpai-Valkyr said: Well, what weapons should they be using then? I think they should be using the Boltor / Latron / Tigris / Hek etc. Kind of weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naheleduskwalker Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 22 minutes ago, Tennonat said: I feel like the Mastery Requirement for the Tonkor should be raised. Almost every low rank player i see is using a Tonkor, I really think the requirement should be Rank 15 / 16. honestly mastery rank weapons locks need to just be removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennonat Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 I understand that Mastery Ranks are a mess right now but jeez you guys hate it O_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennonat Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, naheleduskwalker said: honestly mastery rank weapons locks need to just be removed That would also remove the sense of progression in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manyc Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Senpai-Valkyr said: Well, what weapons should they be using then? All of them, they're supposed to try them all, define which are their fun weapons, which suit their play style, create their play style and only them find out by themselves which one is the strongest. What would you think if you reached a generic mmo and you could get the level 200 equips straight away? Think about it in how it would mess with your interest in the game. 7 minutes ago, Tennonat said: I see, thank you for letting me know, it is a mess indeed You can quote multiple people in the same post, one could say you're post farming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)official_79 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 20 minutes ago, Tennonat said: I feel like the Mastery Requirement for the Tonkor should be raised. Almost every low rank player i see is using a Tonkor, I really think the requirement should be Rank 15 / 16. Rank 15/16? that is terribly high. Mastery rank tends not to matter past i'd say about mr9-10, you can only get so good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennonat Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, InglriousB said: MR does not equal skill! It only shows how much of the game you have unlocked. Judging by it is already the stupidest thing in the entire world, so you can see that MR requirements also make little sense. If a player wants to have a good weapon and can obtain it via his capabilites of farming and skill then that's enough for the amount of skill he has. MR does equal skill, for most players at least. They would be getting experience from the time of ranking up weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naheleduskwalker Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Just now, Tennonat said: That would also remove the sense of progression in the game. So your saying you cant level frames or weapons? Or forma both to fit even bigger mods on? Tell me how on earth progression has anything real effect from MR other than load out slots if MR lock out didnt exist for weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)official_79 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Just now, Tennonat said: MR does equal skill, for most players at least. They would be getting experience from the time of ranking up weapons MR can give you an idea of skill, it doesn't matter past a certain point, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senpai-Valkyr Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 The game is pretty hard for new players because they don't really know what they're doing , so the tonkor, a market buildable weapon, is a way for newbies to do harder content. I think the tonkor should have a higher mr requirement but the game should do a better job of introducing newer players to the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naheleduskwalker Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, Tennonat said: MR does equal skill, for most players at least. They would be getting experience from the time of ranking up weapons I have seen someone who was MR who was a total scrub.. Really bad and all around unskilled. While someone stated it CAN give you an idea it by no means is a solid idea of skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennonat Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Senpai-Valkyr said: The game is pretty hard for new players because they don't really know what they're doing , so the tonkor, a market buildable weapon, is a way for newbies to do harder content. I think the tonkor should have a higher mr requirement but the game should do a better job of introducing newer players to the game I fully agree that the game is hard for new players, the tutorials aren't much help either but newbies should not be playing "harder" content, as they should stick to the content which they can handle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurrealEdge Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, Tennonat said: MR does equal skill, for most players at least. They would be getting experience from the time of ranking up weapons MR doesn't equal skill when recruiting channel is all "H Draco need CP leech"/"LF Draco leech with CP". They just breeze through whatever content and mastery walls with a broken system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziegrif Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I do agree that the MR gate for Tonkor should be raised. Mostly because once you get it there's absolutely no reason whatsoever to ever use anything else. Other than personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niliam Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 No, I stayed at MR5 for 2 years. And if wasn't trying to try the syndicate weapons out, I would just be MR6 by now. And after leveling all the warframe and weapons out? I stick back to the usual weapon and frame I use. MR should be removed, not improved to become impedance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennonat Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ziegrif said: I do agree that the MR gate for Tonkor should be raised. Mostly because once you get it there's absolutely no reason whatsoever to ever use anything else. That is one great point, thank you ^u^, tonkor pretty much almost beats all other weapons ingame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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