Eda.Mone Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Hi, I haven't played in awhile.. And after two years I'm willing to ask for help with a build. Simply I am asking for the most efficient Energy Vampire build for defense missions. Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ButterLutter Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Just now, IBeatWeaboos said: Cannot get it to open, sadly. Natural Talent: for faster EV Stretch + Overextended + Cunning Drift: huge EV range Intensify + Transient Fortitude + Blind Range: stronger EV and -Duration makes EV faster Fleeting Expertise: making everything cheaper is a nice plus but we really need the -Duration for faster EV Vampire Leech: nice Overshield hope that helps :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ButterLutter Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 http://goo.gl/OiBAQN Thats my build. Ignore the wrong forma, i had to put it to fit my Bless-Trin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (XBOX)Skylancer4 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 There are several videos and builds if you Google, at least half the videos I watch typically explain the choice made (and some variations) which would serve you much better than copy/paste of a build. That way you would understand the choices and be able to adjust some as needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Eda.Mone Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 7 minutes ago, ButterLutter said: http://goo.gl/OiBAQN Thats my build. Ignore the wrong forma, i had to put it to fit my Bless-Trin Cannot get it to open, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Eda.Mone Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 7 minutes ago, (XB1)Skylancer4 said: There are several videos and builds if you Google, at least half the videos I watch typically explain the choice made (and some variations) which would serve you much better than copy/paste of a build. That way you would understand the choices and be able to adjust some as needed. I do not enjoy watching the people on YouTube. half of them feel like elitist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (XBOX)Skylancer4 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, IBeatWeaboos said: I do not enjoy watching the people on YouTube. half of them feel like elitist. Well, elitists know what they are talking about typically. And there are quite a few who aren't. But hey, being narrow-minded is a right on the internet sadly, you are entitled I guess. The whole give someone a fish or teach them how to... Edited June 19, 2016 by (XB1)Skylancer4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Eda.Mone Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 14 minutes ago, (XB1)Skylancer4 said: Well, elitists know what they are talking about typically. And there are quite a few who aren't. But hey, being narrow-minded is a right on the internet sadly, you are entitled I guess. The whole give someone a fish or teach them how to... I'm not being narrow minded. I just do not like those kinds of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Eda.Mone Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 30 minutes ago, ButterLutter said: Natural Talent: for faster EV Stretch + Overextended + Cunning Drift: huge EV range Intensify + Transient Fortitude + Blind Range: stronger EV and -Duration makes EV faster Fleeting Expertise: making everything cheaper is a nice plus but we really need the -Duration for faster EV Vampire Leech: nice Overshield hope that helps :) So more around what I have. Alright, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Wopel Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, IBeatWeaboos said: I'm not being narrow minded. I just do not like those kinds of people. Not using a whole "type" of educational tools (warframe videos and text guides) that are freely available because of the possibility that "one of those people" made it, is the definition of being narrow-minded lol. Actually you can toss in the fact you are stereotyping as well... But whatever lets you sleep at night. Edited June 20, 2016 by Wopel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Pansai Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 9 hours ago, ButterLutter said: Natural Talent: for faster EV Stretch + Overextended + Cunning Drift: huge EV range Intensify + Transient Fortitude + Blind Range: stronger EV and -Duration makes EV faster Fleeting Expertise: making everything cheaper is a nice plus but we really need the -Duration for faster EV Vampire Leech: nice Overshield I guess it's the answer to what he was asking, but cutting down duration will cripple her Link and Blessing. Which usually shouldn't be needed, because you receive the full energy in one blast as soon as your target is killed. Keep some duration in there and keep her a versatile frame and not just a one trick pony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Apricity-- Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) Corrosive Projection Transient Fortitude Stretch, Overextended, Cunning Drift Primed Flow, Fleeting Expertise Vampire Leech Redirection Dont EVER put multiple strength mods on her, its useless and you get energy fast enough with just a transient fortitude, also helps if you shoot an enemy to kill the second you press 2 on it, or shoot it and press 2 instantly and you can jump up 200 energy easily Their builds are very inefficient and waste good slots Edited June 20, 2016 by angslan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 (XBOX)LeMaquiniste Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 2 hours ago, angslan said: Corrosive Projection Transient Fortitude Stretch, Overextended, Cunning Drift Primed Flow, Fleeting Expertise Vampire Leech Redirection Dont EVER put multiple strength mods on her, its useless and you get energy fast enough with just a transient fortitude, also helps if you shoot an enemy to kill the second you press 2 on it, or shoot it and press 2 instantly and you can jump up 200 energy easily Their builds are very inefficient and waste good slots IMO you are wasting slots with P. Flow and Fleeting, and I´d swap redirection for vitality. For me: Corrosive projection Transient Fortitude, Intensify Overextended, Cunning Quick Thinking (in end game you´ll need it) Vitality Vampire Leech And the last slot could be: Stretch for general purposes or flow (for raid for example) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ButterLutter Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, angslan said: Their builds are very inefficient and waste good slots Inefficient? Your build: 95 Energy total from an EV (not 200 like you said) 142,5% Overshield (thats 135,375 Overshield per cast for others and 92,625 Overshield for yourself) You need 9 EV's to fill the Overshield of others and 13 casts to fill your own Overshield slower casting speed My build: 224 Energy total from an EV 336% Overshield (thats 752,64 Overshield per cast for others and 593,04 Overshield for me) I need 2 EV's to fill the Overshield of others and 2 casts to almost fill my own Overshield (its 2,02 casts) faster casting speed I wonder which one is really inefficient in terms of pure EV build... Edited June 20, 2016 by ButterLutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Apricity-- Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Understandable, but natural talent is really not that necessary, and I dont build Trinity purely to press 2, I just reccomended a good EV build, not a tryhard EV build, regardless, I cap out peoples energy and give them very good overshields with no problem Sorry im not that much of a Trinity tryhard like you :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ButterLutter Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 26 minutes ago, angslan said: Understandable, but natural talent is really not that necessary, and I dont build Trinity purely to press 2, I just reccomended a good EV build, not a tryhard EV build, regardless, I cap out peoples energy and give them very good overshields with no problem Sorry im not that much of a Trinity tryhard like you :) Natural Talent can be exchanged for something else obviously, its not mandatory. I like it though, especially when we decide to leave the game. For example after an hour camping in survival i can hit EV on the run and fill everyones Overshield instantly without risking my own life too much. What else do you do with your build if not hitting 2? Blessing with 1,25sec duration? The only difference in our builds is, that i have more strength and you have more energy (Flow) and Redirection. You are already running a build which is supposed to have infinite energy. Why you need more infinite energy is something i dont understand. Same with Redirection. Wasting a modslot for 660 shield while running around with 1200 overshield which can be replenished at the touch of a button. Not to mention that you aren't supposed to stand in the front line anyways. Versus low level enemies you wont notice the extra shield and versus ultra high enemies it wont matter at all, you are a oneshot anyways. IF you need a survival mod, better take Quick Thinking like LeMaquaniste suggested. I mean you are running a frame with infinite energy and you have a mod at hand which makes you immortal as long as you have energy... I wouldnt have said anything if you would run a hybrid build, making bless somewhat useful. But right now you are just running an inefficient EV build and calling other builds inefficient, even though the numbers clearly show which is inefficient and which not. The tryhard-part is something i take with a smile and as a compliment. I like running the most efficient build and not second class builds :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hi, I haven't played in awhile.. And after two years I'm willing to ask for help with a build.
Simply I am asking for the most efficient Energy Vampire build for defense missions.
Thanks in advance!
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