Dessfar Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 When you're playing PVP in the Dojo, if someone has a melee weapon with higher AoE than you, you're basically dead. Over and over i was getting knocked on my &#! not being able to get up. It is infuriating and stupid so please fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandroid Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 this is pve game what you expect you got pvp enjoy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessfar Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 That's a crap attitude. These guys want to make the game as good as possible right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namacyst Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I rather have them fix more important stuff compared to PvP problems. And i mean way more important stuff compared to PvP problems. Like really really important stuff compared to PvP problems. Something like.. uhm.. Supra bullets not having the specified energy color. Important stuff! You get my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theammostore Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 *ahem* The Dojo and all components within the dojo are in ALPHA stage. Early, early designs, unrefined and basically totally raw. Maybe it will be fixed in the future, but at the moment, just be glad it exists. You wanted pvp in a pve oriented game, and you got it. We all know PvP is unbalanced and unfair in most cases, DE will probably be working on it soon, but hopefully AFTER PvE work is completed. This game is PvE centric, and we do not NEED PvP, it's wanted. That's a crap attitude. These guys want to make the game as good as possible right? Yes. And the vast majority want the PvE to be perfected first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandroid Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) That's a crap attitude. These guys want to make the game as good as possible right? yes they do thats why they aren't focused on pvp Edited June 24, 2013 by BlackJackD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.KennethNoiswater Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 If I'm not mistaken, that is why they added a mod that lets you recover from knockdowns faster. And also why there isn't a real PvP besides clan fun time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessfar Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 I'm not it's the most important thing on the planet i"m just saying they should get round to fixing it at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitfly Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 DE: "We will never balance anything around PvP / Duelling." get over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.KennethNoiswater Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) DE: "We will never balance anything around PvP / Duelling." get over it bwahahaha yeah, that's why the hek already got PvP nerfed..... Your arguement is invalid. Edit: stupid phones autocorrect... Edited June 24, 2013 by Dr.KennethNoiswater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessfar Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 Why are you being so rude? All I did is make a suggestion. Did they really say they will never balance it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theammostore Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Why are you being so rude? All I did is make a suggestion. Did they really say they will never balance it? It's because we all know it needs to be fixed and refined. Everybody knows this, we don't need more threads on it. Besides, it probably won't be the focus of and refinement until much later, so giving suggestions now won't do any good, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessfar Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 Alright, now I know. Thanks, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxyninja Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 When you're playing PVP in the Dojo, if someone has a melee weapon with higher AoE than you, you're basically dead. Over and over i was getting knocked on my &#! not being able to get up. It is infuriating and stupid so please fix it. That's a crap attitude. These guys want to make the game as good as possible right? its mainly a pve game so they will probably perfect that first the maybe change some stuff for pvp. bwahahaha yeah, that's why the hek already got PvP nerfed..... Your arguement is invalid.funny cuz the hek nerf wasn't because of PvP. the reason for it was hek was hands down the best weapon in the game, now it feels more like a shotgun that dose more damage up close instead of being s shotgun-sniper. back on topic. i would like PvP to be balanced but since it is such a small part of the game it not a big deal. you could always set some rules for a duel like no jump smashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowPow36 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) well what should they do `?`large aoe´s who are usefull in game cut down cause someone get killd with it at the dojo ?? theres no point ...... may ur homie got better weapons then u ^^ get some better stuff and try it again , or just lose with crapy stuff.... i never point out that the braton makes less dmg then the Latron Prime , may they shoud nerv down the Better stuff , but i dont think its a possible way to make the game a lot better just another flame thread ........... btw did he use reach on it ?? UNFAIR xD Edited June 24, 2013 by PowPow36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MXXVI Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 To be fair, the grumpy old guys are right, though they could be less grumpy about it: PVP balance is going to be a nightmare, and a real long-term development. Even pure PVP games take ages to figure it out, because in PVP (as I'm sure you know) the balance needed is much... tighter. And at the moment, since the Dojo stuff has only just been released and is still basically a prototype, you can expect a lot of changes. Just hang in there, try to suck it up... or maybe buy a massive hammer and fight them on their own turf :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theammostore Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Alright, now I know. Thanks, I guess. Yeah, sorry to be so rude and blunt, but with so many threads on it, patience kinda gets worn thin, yanno? Just know that they are going to work on it at some point. We don't know when, but we do know they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.KennethNoiswater Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 its mainly a pve game so they will probably perfect that first the maybe change some stuff for pvp. funny cuz the hek nerf wasn't because of PvP. the reason for it was hek was hands down the best weapon in the game, now it feels more like a shotgun that dose more damage up close instead of being s shotgun-sniper. back on topic. i would like PvP to be balanced but since it is such a small part of the game it not a big deal. you could always set some rules for a duel like no jump smashing. Heavens no I didn't mean the shotgun wide damage dropoff and initial hek nerf, I mean the PvP specific nerf that happened almost immediately after the clan dojos dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ12 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 bwahahaha yeah, that's why the hek already got PvP nerfed..... Your arguement is invalid. Edit: stupid phones autocorrect... Nope, the Hek got nerfed because it literally made every other weapon obsolete. Good fire rate, excellent damage, range more than sufficient to kill enemies in any normal fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxyninja Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Heavens no I didn't mean the shotgun wide damage dropoff and initial hek nerf, I mean the PvP specific nerf that happened almost immediately after the clan dojos dropped.ah well my bad, but i still think it did needed a small nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enot83 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 And this thread is exactly why so many of us opposed pvp of any kind to begin with. Lets find out, are we going to go sliding down that slope like so many said would happen, or is DE going to put the brakes on this stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.KennethNoiswater Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Nope, the Hek got nerfed because it literally made every other weapon obsolete. Good fire rate, excellent damage, range more than sufficient to kill enemies in any normal fight. Here's the quote from DESteve buddy, "DUELING: Intra-Clan leaderboards, PvP-specific balance changes (Hek zomg) and stability fixes are in the works. We'll be adding a UI for clans to create their dueling rules." As I said to the other scholarly gentleman, I didn't mean the original/PvE nerfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MXXVI Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 What would be nice is if they simply quarantined the PVP aspect. So, they could molest the weapon stats as much as they like for PVP... but in PVE they'd remain unchanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhisperByte Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 What would be nice is if they simply quarantined the PVP aspect. So, they could molest the weapon stats as much as they like for PVP... but in PVE they'd remain unchanged. That's what they are planning to do. i think they have assigned or will assign a team of 4 people just for that. Or so they said couple of livestreams ago iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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