bmak128 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Everyone that I have talked to in real life says that they love this game but they think it gets boring. They have also said that there should be something that is unique to it, to keep people's attentions. You guys have already made this game a little more interesting by putting in void keys and a dojo. Good job, but just having it is not good enough. I realize you want to make money, but if someone does not want to pay for a game, they will not pay for it. You have to make the void keys more tangible. They are way too rare! Also the way you made the Dojo has a flaw. You made it so that it is impossible for new clans to get better because everyone wants to join huge clans. You have to find a way to even that out, or the big clans will get even bigger and smaller clans will diminish. Not completely sure how, but I'm sure you guys will find a way!Great job so far for Beta! P.S. Try making it so that there are more events. No one really cares about artifacts that much. Give out Forma or something? or something good...P.P.S. Dailies are kinda bad also. My daily reward sometimes gets glitched so that I start back from day 1. No one really wants EXP or extra ammo or credits, especially after 7 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rankzerox Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Wow this is a shtty suggestion, void keys drop like dubstep and if you actually try to gather them (defense missions) you will soon end up having too many look at this instead. Edited June 25, 2013 by Rankzerox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enomilli Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Um...opieeee...are you...feeling okay...? Should we...I mean...should you...get some rest...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shion963 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I play Warframe to master every weapon and 'frame, fuse every mod. Y'know those things. It's fun so far. And: CLANS/DOJO-GATECLAN SIZE: We're currently thinking of these tiers: Shadow Clan (30 limit), River Clan (100 limit), Mountain Clan (500 limit), Moon Clan (2000 limit). Existing massive clans will likely grandfathered in but there may be upkeep friction for those really crazy sized ones. We will avoid forced splits though. Starting a clan will take some resources. Jumping between clans will be slow to reduce exploits. We need these limits to help bring sanity to database, networking and balance equations. Stay tuned, as we're still working out the details.CONSTRUCTION COSTS: Sorry about how this turned out, slapping "Alpha" on it was not enough. Soon the size of your clan will affect the crafting costs (duh). To grow a Shadow Clan to a River Clan (and beyond) will require building a new structure to increase the capacity. Connector pieces will be adjusted in cost. Large clans will not feel a ton of difference. It will make all the difference for small ones. This will not be a linear curve, larger group of more active players will be able to build faster but it won't be such a ridiculous gap. ECONOMY FORMA: We've done months of work on the Dojo system and offer tons of weapons we'd normally sell for Platinum. Buying Forma means supporting Warframe's development and future. Playing for it is also an option of course, and we’ve made it obtainable in The Void. Will we look at the drop-rates and dojo costs? Hell yes. https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/55421-update-8-related-work/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmak128 Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 I dont know what drop like dubstep means lol... I was suggesting that it should be more tangible through login rewards. I hate it when people like you think of only black and white. You can give people more of what they want without giving them too much. Don't interpret what people say to the extremes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmak128 Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 Thanks Shion963. That was pretty good info. When people like YStella post stupid S#&$ like that, it doesn't help anyone so just don't say anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shion963 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I dont know what drop like dubstep means lol... I was suggesting that it should be more tangible through login rewards. I hate it when people like you think of only black and white. You can give people more of what they want without giving them too much. Don't interpret what people say to the extremes. what do you mean by "tangible through login rewards"? We already can get them from login rewards. And I don't think you're using "tangible" correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentdrumr Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Well I think for the keys you just gotta play a bit longer and understand the right places to farm them (defence missions). They made it drastically easier to obtain... maybe a bit too easy, but it's w/e. If you really need help getting some keys just try looking for a group on the forums or region chat that are interested in farming keys with you. As for the rest of the post, it's all been addressed and will be tweaked in future updates (dojos and such). As for the paying part. I didn't think I would like this game as much as I did, but as soon as I started playing it the first week and watched the livestreams, I completely fell in love with it and really tried to save up a bit so I can help support. I also love that this game is 'pay for convenience' and not p2w. Hope your experience on warframe only gets better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmak128 Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 You can get keys from defense missions? Are they drops? or rewards, and which ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentdrumr Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 You can get keys from defense missions? Are they drops? or rewards, and which ones Rewards. Try doing a bit of research on the wiki's or dig up some info on the forums. Sadly they don't have much info implemented in the game so you kinda have to resort to an ourside source. But you gotta do what you gotta do, right? Google is your friend :D (or w/e search engine you prefer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 i honestly have a bunch of keys but i dont use them... idk... i've made frost prime, i've made latron prime... i dont feel the need to go in the void anymore, except for T3 keys, just for the "challange". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzz702 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Everyone that I have talked to in real life says that they love this game but they think it gets boring. They have also said that there should be something that is unique to it, to keep people's attentions. You guys have already made this game a little more interesting by putting in void keys and a dojo. Good job, but just having it is not good enough. I realize you want to make money, but if someone does not want to pay for a game, they will not pay for it. You have to make the void keys more tangible. They are way too rare! Also the way you made the Dojo has a flaw. You made it so that it is impossible for new clans to get better because everyone wants to join huge clans. You have to find a way to even that out, or the big clans will get even bigger and smaller clans will diminish. Not completely sure how, but I'm sure you guys will find a way! Great job so far for Beta! P.S. Try making it so that there are more events. No one really cares about artifacts that much. Give out Forma or something? or something good... P.P.S. Dailies are kinda bad also. My daily reward sometimes gets glitched so that I start back from day 1. No one really wants EXP or extra ammo or credits, especially after 7 days. If i had a penny for every time someone didn't want to pay for a game but then wanted everything handed to him...P.s. check out a live stream or two... /facepalm Edited June 25, 2013 by Zzz702 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovovich Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) The keys are really easy to get, play more Xini :P and they are working in your others suggestions. They have already given forma, catalysts and reactors as alerts, you should download the Alerts App for Android or use Twitter https://twitter.com/WarframeAlerts Edited June 25, 2013 by Jovovich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phobonaut Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 You have to make the void keys more tangible. They are way too rare! I have a S#&$load of keys from doing low-level defense solo. Getting keys is easy. At the rate this is going, by the time I have the gear to properly run Void, I won't ever run out of keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmak128 Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 ya i take back what i said about keys. do you guys know which update the dojo fixes are coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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