How Good Is Dual Zoren And The Gram

[omgeveryone9]

Are they worth making, and if so which should I build next? Also, are they better than dual ether?

Edited July 29, 2013 by omgeveryone9

[effinator]

If you want to just fly across the map by slide-spinning, get the zorens, if you want good charge damage with a pretty wide and fast swing, gram. Zorens got pretty good after the melee mod buff though for the chopping.

Edited July 29, 2013 by effinator

[Pro3Display]

depends on what u want

gram is good when u are tanky to swing away infested hordes

zorens is good to cut infested and stunlock ancients, also - mobility tool

[XandoCalrissian]

Zorren let you handle blobs of light infested single handedly pretty much. Gram's alright, but it's on the low end of the heavies.

[Phoenix86]

Zoren best in mobility

Gram best in the rest

 

(ofc we are talking about Charged/Jump/Slide attacks only)

 

In other words they both really worth making and potatoing them (i own both and dual ether too, all potato'ed, Ethers are taking dust...)

Edited July 30, 2013 by Phoenix86

[Chronodroid]

Hate and Orthos (P) >> Gram

 

Zoren for copter style, flapflapflap ^^

[F1ddleD1ddle]

The dual zoren I have found to be outmatched by the dual cleavers. I currently run the cleavers on my HLD Loki and they cut through all the normal mobs like butter. They sport higher base damage (Zoren = 15, Cleavers 25), same crit rate + crit chance, 100% stagger on hit and a slightly slower firing speed. All in all, they are much easier to handle and deal a lot more damage per hit, I would highly recommend them instead of Zoren if you want the fast attacking crit style melee weapon. Also the velocity is still very high, not quite up to zorens ridiculous standard but its close and much better than a lot of the other weapons.