Quick Thinking Not Stealth Nerfed

[Tigersight]

Just going to copy paste this because no one seems to read anything 3 pages into threads that have been moved out of the GD.

 

Umm, I don't know about you guys, but Quick Thinking hasn't changed.

 

I used my Valkyr to test QT's effectiveness before, and just did it again when I saw this thread. (I did it before because the wiki was unsure whether armor affected damage taken on energy with QT - it did.)

 

For my tests, I used fire pits. Because fire pits do 50 damage per tick.

 

Here's the math:

 

My Valkyr has 1020 armor. 1020/1320 = ~77.2% damage reduction. 50*0.228=11.4 damage. I took 11-12 damage per tick on my hp, so that checked out.

 

When I hit 2 hp and QT kicked in at 200% effectiveness (1 rank from max), the damage dropped to 5-6 per tick. 11.4/2=5.7. So looking at the numbers, Quick Thinking clearly hasn't changed.

 

In my tests before, and my tests just now, the results were identical.

 

Thus: Quick Thinking has not been stealth nerfed.

 

Maybe they increased the damage enemies do? Alternatively, maybe there's a bug with max ranked Quick Thinking?

[MaverickZero]

Damage dropped by 5-6? isn't that supposed to be Energy??

[Tigersight]

Yes, the damage done is taken out of your energy with Quick Thinking.

[GrizzlyBear]

It doesn't seem like Rage does much to protect my either, nor does QT. Perhaps you're correct about the max rank QT, I'm about to test it.

 

Well nevermind, I don't got myself a shiney new, unranked QT.

Edited September 11, 2014 by GrizzlyBear

[TrinityPrime]

Thank you for checking this out.  Rumor mills flying around made me nervous about remodding my QT Trinity.

 

Edit: Wait, what if this is a client verse host bug and when you're a client, QT pretends it's unranked?

Edited September 11, 2014 by KnotOfMetal

[GrizzlyBear]

Thank you for checking this out.  Rumor mills flying around made me nervous about remodding my QT Trinity.

 

Edit: Wait, what if this is a client verse host bug and when you're a client, QT pretends it's unranked?

Wish it was, just tested it and QT acts as if it's not even equipped.

 

Take a look for yourself. =(

 

Edited September 11, 2014 by GrizzlyBear

[EmberLotus]

Of course armor adds mitigation, but try it on any frame without high armor and QT gives you practically no buffer at all. At least before, even on low armor frames, it used to hold up well and last beyond a couple seconds under fire.

[Tigersight]

Just checked and it's not a client-host bug. It works as intended as both client and host.

[Yazeth]

Wish it was, just tested it and QT acts as if it's not even equipped.

 

Take a look for yourself. =(

 

That can not be right. Taking that amount of dmg should not insta-kill you. Must be a bug, cause that's just considered broken in my perspective. 

 

Definitely not working as intended, if it actually became that useless.

Edited September 11, 2014 by Yazeth

[C.Aether]

I do believe that maxed QT have some kind of bug.

It works fine when it's not maxed,at least that's what I saw with my rank 4 QT.

[Cookedtoast]

I used that build and it seems fine.

http://youtu.be/a0XDjUu0gnA

Edited September 11, 2014 by Cookedtoast

[Darzk]

My R5 is working correctly.

[Tulzscha]

Moved to the proper section.

[SuperBadPig]

Seems like a bug to me

[Noble_Cactus]

I ran Nuovo with my Nekros and a Loki for 45 minutes tonight, which is just about the point where dodging/QT matters, and didn't really notice much of a difference. 

 

But!

 

My energy pool did get depleted from 300 to 0 in less than a second at one point and I went down, which was odd because nothing else did that even if I let myself get hit. This happened twice in a row, and it was similar to GrizzlyBear's video.

[LMjai]

It's not quick thinking that was stealth nerfed it's rage, it used to still give you energy for a few second after you were stuck at 2 hp, now it doesn't.