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Spy is one of the most efficient and easiest mission types in the whole game. There's no issue in it being in sorties. The issues are **** excavations, interceptions and some bosses that are resident sleeper expereince like Ambulas. That's an insta skip.
??????Even if you do swallow it up like you say, you can fail a mission because 1 guy failed
Man it up and actually copmplete a mission without leeching or getting caried. It takes like 5 minutes to do solo. There's no need for "one guy".
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??????But is it normal that Spy is the most challenging, because of the high failure risk
There's no such thing. You're just bad. That's all.
??????You hate them because ? Of their length ?Â
They're boring af AND long and these types of mission doesn't require any kind of skill and don't reward you for showing it. Also nothing is worse than babysitting a terrible broken ai or hoping that your teammates have more than 60 iq and being able to hold at least one point each. Words can't describe how much I personally hate interception.
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If you need a discount to give them your money then you're not really interested in giving them your money, are you
ЦитатаWhat you're saying is that you don't think the normal prices are worth it and are only willing to spend when they're 75% off.
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16 часов назад, miomima сказал:
Better delete AOE-frame as category, introduce line of sight to all abilities (because its kinda makes sense).
Might as well just delete warframe.
Because no one who plays it does it to play such garbage.
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В 03.09.2018 в 15:55, Ver1dian сказал:
SOOO many bad situations with Rhinos in Index, I don't know where to start.
1. I've experienced that some of those Rhinos seem to consider everything not a Rhino to be "unworthy" in the Index.
Sure, I'm supposed to let you take all the points, because I play a lowly Inaros...
2. The Rhino doesn't even do any damage worth mentioning, but he swoops down for that point as if he's saving the day with his almighty frame.
3. I've died countless times at 14 points being focus fired and some rhino just running around picking up the points from my kills without actually helping,
not letting me get that 15th point.4. More than one Rhino on the team, both of them running around ready to recite "In brightest day", game taking forever, I end up getting 90+ points
I'm sure I can think of more, but its getting on my nerves just thinking about it.
Maybe instead of thinking about horrible scrubs you meet in pug you should thinking about finding a group.
Цитата20 is just a pointless risk because it doesnt reduce the amount of caps needed. You'll still sit at 2, 3 and 4 caps, but at a far greater risk on each cap but the last.
"Risk" and "Rhino" don't exist together in one sentence.
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The fact is he is not the only one who posted videos not realizing they needed a better amp and or more experience.
He just literally ignored the content and came to the consequences because survivals is all he ran. The end. His own fault.
ЦитатаAnd since only 20% of players in a game read guides/YouTube/Reddit/forums for any video game on the market, an information gap is a major problem. And when only abut 40% of all players finish a game they purchased, It is in the game company's best interest to get more people to play not less. I feel pretty good guessing DE does not want the reputation they have for their new player experience.
You can't finish a game that's still in beta and is an mmo.
And warframe is easy as ****. It became progressively easier and open to the new plaeyrs like no other game. It was much and much worse even 3 years ago, forget 5. If anything, they concentrate 90% of resources on new players and cater to them, not the other way around.
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16 часов назад, Zarlockk сказал:
You wanna say OP's method is more fun?
I did not call it fun, i said "more interactive" and "more fun"It's like saying watching the paint dry is more fun than just sitting near the newly painted wall.
No it's not "better', Not it's not "more fun" because 0x0 or 0+0 is still 0.
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Umbra fights.. oh god the umbra fights. My operator was decked out with all the passives and a good damage skill and he still murdered me in seconds
I can personally honestly forgive almost anythyng for the lore and well written quests/dialogues, especially related to a main story and especially warframes themselves.
ЦитатаI would guess that is not the case for the majority of players. Even Life of Rio made a video talking about the difficulty and he is an end game player. It was diffcult for him because he doesn't do PoE.
That's really his problems. Ignore a major piece of a game developers keep pushing and it will bite you in the *** one day.
Also being "end game" doesn't immediately equal being good at the game as a whole as well. For all the talking about bite sized players I find it pathetic if he had real ussies with the quest to the point to find it "difficult". Its liek complaining "oh you know I never bothered to instal a catalyst on my weapon, I never bothered to evem level it up, I never bothered to properly mod it so I got my *** handled to me". Well what a surprise. Decided to no life in the survivals all day every day, ignored the rest of the game that happened in more than 2 years while he was doing so. "And so, we come to the consequences"
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19 минут назад, Zarlockk сказал:
Here is another tactic for you which is more interactive:
Rhino with old school max power+efficiency for iron skin.
Equip Heavy hitting gun like snipers, strun wraith,cornith or tigris to name a few and go ham
Do 1 round and repeat. If done right you should finish 1 round in less than about 7 minutes +-2 depending on if you died at least once or not. Collect 20 points so you get 10 bonus points and only then hand in.
More fun, More interaction and still easy.There's nothing "fun" about it. If you're not new to warframe running same **** old bloody rhino over and over, over and over over and over gets very old very fast. The mere idea that you're restricted to one frame if you want to effectively and efficiently play the index is revolting. Because of that, it turns into mindless farming in about 15 runs or so. If it wasn't for rewards that are really good, the mode would have been over of the worst in the whole game. Even in rathuum you can easily use most frames and even those that rely on their powers if you have extra gear but index is just a pvp-like pile of trash filled with annoying corpus units and annoying debufs.
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10 минут назад, UnemployedNinja сказал:
I always turn in at 15 points held for 8 bonus points. It's the most efficient turn in score. I Rhino on the index.
The "most" effective way is to play it solo and turn in 20 points, each game lasts roughly 6 minutes then. The only mildly annoying thing about it are stupid specters stealing points but at least they can't possibly hold on 15-20 of them.
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A better question.
Who plays index in public?
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16 минут назад, SpicyDinosaur сказал:
Well, I mean if you just checked the code and found it was "easy" I'm sure the programmers involved will appreciate the info.
Sortie works like that. Riven challenges work like that. There are other things with similar mechanics that check if you have x and then you can do y or proceed somewhere.
And even if it's more "complicated" than a sortie restriction there's no reason not to ask for it.
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13 минут назад, GnarlsDarkley сказал:
Because you need a key everytime to enter, just like Mutalist Alad V/Mesa farm
And?
The system can easily check if you have one or not just like it does with sortie conditions like "sniper" ect only and can allow you in if you choose to use it and confirmed.
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6 минут назад, AgentSkye сказал:
I think the difference here is that Overwatch is a PvP game first. The TL;DR version of a wall of text I don't feel like typing is that adding PvE to a PvP game is much easier
Yeaaah I don't think so after playing games like Souls series.
It's more a question what kind of the game it is more than if it's a pve or pvp based first.
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3 часа назад, Sloan441 сказал:
Two is mixing PvE and PvP in the same game always causes serious balance issues.
Not always.
Overwatch has pve mode and pve events, it doesn't affect pvp at all and events are reasonably difficult. So much so that most
scrubsplayers can't even complete "endless" tower-defense like mode during one of the events most of the time (12 waves or so). While completing less than 12 still counts as "winning" just as in warframe 5 waves counts as completing the mission it would be equal to most of wf players being unable to beat wave 20 or so. Highest difficulty is actually, surprise, difficult, it's not something you'd beat without breaking a sweat. And while this type of content is time limited (and therefore people are unable to grind it 2+ years straight to the point of perfecting it) I'd say they got it almost right like 4/5. -
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Hold up, Sees that he called these frames meh, but then again, he has some of the most powerful frames on here?
Powerful doesn't equal interesting or good. Useless doesn't equal "weak".
Ivara is as powerful as Saitama but since no one runs real endless missions and there's no reason to, her powers are pointless. Same for the rest of them. Some abilities like Revenants or Octavias are downright boring. I see no reason to use them over Mesa or Excalibur that both look better and do better damage in a more flashy, stylish manner.
ЦитатаHow are they useless for most content?
Cause they just are? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The trend for warfarme is 1 kill fast 2 kill lots 3 do fast low level (<100-150) non endless missions 4 kill fast and lots in large open space on relatively low level missions (<100-150).
Neither of them are good in any of it. Revenant does damage but god it is so braindead of an ability to use.
ЦитатаThey are no different than the frames that came before them.
Yes they are ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Because they bring nothing new to the game and they look bad. The fact they look bad in comparison to the old ones (because old ones came before so you have to compete) changes little. When you create new ones you want people to use them over old ones, you want to give them a reason to farm them, put reactors, level and forma. That does not happen with any of the above frames, for each one of them there's gonna be a better cc or dps that people already farmed, put resources into it, bough deluxe skins and tennogen items. They only better for survival but again that's not valuable in warframe right now because as of now there's no content that requires Nidus or Inaros or Wukong.
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They're supposed to reflect different personalities and ideas.
Just like all the warframe that came bofore them.
Only with neither of them I have such major problems but all of the above I can hardly stand with exception of Nidus - if it's not their looks then it's their lackluster and useless abilities that turn me off. Well no, actually Hydroid is also repulsive from the original bunch but that's it. I no longer wait for new frames because I know that they're gonna be meh looking mastery fodders, at least most of them.
ЦитатаNezha looks like an athletic, young guy
He looks like an androgynous chineese monkey and unless you read about him, doesn't resemble a 'guy' at all. And unlike some dark sun gwyndolin from DS, he even looks bad both in terms of design and his textures. Looks much more bearable in deluxe but I'm talking standard models here.
ЦитатаInaros is supposed to be a godlike figure on Mars
But instead we got mister dog nipples with a giant hole where his pelvis bone is supposed to be and weird as hell toes.
Seriously.
Some REALLY questionable designs in the latest frames. Who puts dog nipples on a warframe?!
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10 минут назад, xcenic сказал:
Fix it for you.
There's nothing to be fixed.
Only Nidus is good in both visual and abilities departments but that means nothing because no one does long survival runs so his powers are pointless, can't be efficiently played in other kind of content. Good idea nd he looks like an actual warframe tho.
Harrow is only good for Eidolon and is 100% replaceable, his only role is to mindlessly press one button 4 and that's it. If people weren't so helbent of preserving their energy or bothered to run nullifiers/use pads, any buffer like Rhino could take his place.
Octavia is just ****. It's Lucio from Ovewracth on steroids with abilities that can play game instead of her, the amount of laziness of someone who runs it is over 9000, it's worse than playing Ember, Mesa and Saryn combined. Boring as ****. Visuals are atrocious.
ЦитатаI don't see what your problem is with most of these, they are all unique in some way, and all play and feel different from other frames
They're all useless for most of the games content or redundant in most of the games content and most of them are visually repulsive. Inaros in his original form is just mister dog nipples. Nezha is just no comments. Titania and Octavia just don't belong in warfarme. Atlas lost his way to the mortal combat contest. And so on.
Цитата I also feel the exact opposite of you, Nidus is the only one who doesn't feel like a Warframe.
It's an infested infested warfarme. Can't get any more warframe than that.
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I don't know what people expect in general, in the past 3 years all warframes that were released are just meh. MEH. Meh as ***.
Atlas
Wukong
Ivara
Nezha
Inaros
Titania
Nidus
Octavia
Harrow
Gara
Khora
Revenant.
I literally personally don't like neither their design nor abilities, I don't really care that 3 of them are immortal and one can solo any survival to infinity and beyond (because 99,9999% of people don't even go past 1 or 1,5 hours anyway) even if they're useful for some content. Only Nidus feels like a warframe, and is useless outside long survivals, the rest don't even look like it. Octavia was a final nail in the coffin. From that bunch I only have some hopes for Garuda and only cause Pablo apparently is in the charge of it.
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Madurai doesn't seem to need the Wisps.
Yeah if you aim for like 2x3 or 3x3 at most. And even then madurai players can go crazy and start dpsing in Chroma's place blowing up their charges for no reason.
Wisps double your damage that's why you're expecting to run it. If you won't abandon Eidolons after a week of playing you might as well just get used to it. You of all people don't need madurai or any other school as well.
QuoteWhy not just have 2-3 Madurai dudes charging their stuff, blowing up shields?
You do it even with the wisps. Most common strat is 3 madurai 1 unairu.
QuoteYou could run a Zenurik
You can also just use freaking pads and not be that one guy. If you have resources for archwing charges and functional build for Eidolons not using them is just being cheap like going to a restaurant and ordering water instead of a drink.
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10 минут назад, (PS4)Onder6099 сказал:
Sorry, but why then you recommend to play Solo while the description of WF is clear: MMO RPG Coop. I understand that’s more comfortable, but it can easily harm the Business model of WF as a F2P game.
"Recommend"? I don't give a flying f why and how other players play games, warframe in particular. All I said that I personally started to play it because it can be played solo and would have never started otherwise. That's why warframe is the only mmo I ever played for extended period of time.
And considering that I'm far from being alone in that and the amount of money they made from me alone through the years sorry but I so much doubt anything will hurt anything in their "business model". The thing that CAN hurt them however if all players that loath forced pve will be, well, forced to play with others without a way out. If that they will ever come they can lose thousands of players and as a result hundreds of pas, platinum and tennogen sales from them while so far they only gain from players who prefer to play games solo for the most part because they gain an additional auditory while losing nothing.
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24 минуты назад, AuroraSonicBoom сказал:
I do not enjoy the concept of winning at something at the the expense of someone else losing at it.
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Because there are 1 000+ games that do pvp better. If i want to play pvp, I will load those games. Not Warframe.
And because repupation gain in conclave is donwrate atrocious compared to pve so for most people it's not even worth it doing for rewards because an average person not hyped about conclave will get the absolute scraps of the exp. It also doesn't help how long most matches last. Last but not least both Lunaro and Conclave are just boring as **ck. Lunaro is just a rocket league ripoff and conclave is your usual death macth.
And last but not least matchmaking is nonexistent partly due to the very low amoun of players. Most games have very onesided matches, and wf is not an exception.
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Most braindead variant is grineer defense and banshee
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second the goal of playing online games is to communicate with other ppl.
I really couldn't care less of your perception of a "goal" of any game. The goal of most games is to kill. Other players or ai. That's the goal of a shooter. The goal of a puzzle is to solve puzzles, the goal of a racing simulator is to drive cars. Everything else are your own agendas.
And I can't help to laugh my *** off because I played other online games and the only kind of "communication" you'd get in most of those is 12 years old throwing insults at one another in a text chat (because they're too much of a cowards to "communicate" via voice chat) when they lose (somethines even when thye win). The only exception is a really high level of competitive gameplay and even then it's 50/50 and even most people hardly "communicate".
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Nothing "easy" about soloing them because it requires a small map, consumables and a very limited amount of frames to be used. If I don't want to do it with 4 players most of the times why in the hell would I want to solo it? It's time consuming, inefficient and boring and might require you to recap lost points making it even more time consuming. I mostly just skip them, that is easy as heck. Same thing that "guy" can do with spies.
Interception is most effective in a squad, spy - solo. That's why all the leeches cry about spies and normal people loath interceptions and similar misisons. And while on *some* maps agaisnt *some* factions you can solo interception with enough motivation and with enough energy pads it's simply not worth the trouble, resources or a time spent on it. I mean yes you can solo any mission. But the time and energy it takes with some like interception is simply not worth it, (doesn't matter if you're just mashing one button as Banshee or something similar) for another spit in the face like ayatan sculpture. I'd rather do 3 spies in a row than 2 rounds of interception. No matter the mode it's a huge *** waste of time and a resident sleeper experience,wacthing the timer counting to 100 while either doing nothing or re-capping points over and over.