Lichformed

Gauss is meta? Sure designed well but for a reason I said meta frames are not, he's definitely better than Caliban but isn't outright invinsible or immune to mechanics straight out of the box without a good mod set to back him up like Revenant and Dante and definitely isn't bringing anything to the group on a similar level either And if helminth is too convenient to apply, you could scrutinize sunder as a an inefficient group debuffing and stripping tool when you could just Tharros instead There are plenty of frames that outshine others in the middle-class of frames, but meta wouldn't be just "A-S tiers" as a whole

The meta frames are not designed well, especially if they just forego systems made to balance aspects of the game

Flawed mods were a massive noob trap and a complete waste of resources Absolutely no reason to advocate for a new player to be able to screw themselves over again

Caliban does not suck though, he just plays fair Yes in the world of Revenant and Dante where immortality and just ignoring core balance mechanics like self-stagger he does "suck" But his kit has fair shield gating, one of the best tools for armor removal, damage enhancement and an easy slot to play around with Helminth He can solo Netracells with an active playstyle pretty comfortably, thing is Dante can do it with 4 mods, no potato installed and standing still Caliban is a well designed, well balanced frame in a game where you can just ignore half of the skill ceiling by just picking one of the handful frames that don't play "fair"

Topic Was testing out Inaros, and took him for a spin on Steel Path to confirm the claim Holding X in zombie claw mode does not revive until the mode runs out and you get the standard death screen It's a cool enough passive, and may be helpful in the new no death modes, but in any other case, especially survival it's definitely a hinderance I'd rather pay one revive token for