CyberPrimate
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16 hours ago, Tyanya said:
If that happens then players may start open lockers and smashing crates if there's plat to be made and the prices will level off again.
There are plenty of stars out there, just equip Carrier with looter mod and open a few lockers and you're good.
I normally sell excess stars to Maroo but always leave myself 50 ambers and 150 cyan, haven't been for a little while though.
Yes it can be a little time consuming opening lockers, but they are there in the game to be opened, to ask for stars to be put in loot tables further dilutes the loot table and also renders opening lockers pretty much obsolete.
Maybe trade a pack of 3 amber stars for 10 Vitus Essence? How's that for compromise?
I now have 17 additional statues since arbitrations were introduced. I am not getting the same rate of Ambers in the game. Depends on how you play and what type of missions you play. If i do 1h survivals, I aint gonna get loads of containers/lockers since i stay on the same map. You might be a different kind of player altogether. I barely mess with star chart, since its boring as hell.
Do you do sorties every day? Do you do maroos alert every week? Do you do 1-2h of arbitrations per day? How many hours per day you get to play? Theres lots of variables here that would affect. My point is - DE put Orta in rotation C as a better reward than 2000 endo, but in my case its a worse reward, I rather get 2k endo then statue (even if its worth more if filled). The amount of statues I am now getting in the game does not match the droprate of Ambers. And I certainly wont buy 700 endo worth for 5p. So I will be turning in statues with only Cyan stars inserted.
But nevermind. I definitely not gonna start playing star char missions just to get ambers. I always break containers if I got something like Staticor equipped. And back in the day when i used to use "Spin to win" with whips (when they would also hit through walls) I broke any container in my way. I got Animal Instinct equipped on sentinels to see loot so I can just blast through walls with staticor. But if I got my 2m range melee and something like Tiberon equipped, I aint bothered to slowly shoot/break them 1 by 1.
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On 2018-10-18 at 5:37 AM, punipunichen said:
hey kiddo, I have sooo much ember star... PM me in game, I give you good deal...
Do you happen to drive a van with tinted windows?
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Id suggest Rhino as your first built warframe. He is very beginner friendly. Tanky, has damage buff and CC. And very very easy to farm. Exceptional for a new player.
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10 hours ago, Synpai said:
As someone who breaks and opens every container and locker on the way to an objective, there is a huge disparity in drop rates.
I'm currently sitting on 30:800 Amber to Cyan stars and this is after regularly getting rid of sortie statues, etc. which use more cyan stars to fill over amber on average.
Not to mention most of this collection comes from me playing for hours every day, at times when Telos Boltace or Simulor were always around; when melee could hit from miles away through walls, etc.
Like even if you were to look at me as the poster child, my quantity of stars would barely cover the influx of statues I'm getting from Arbitrations.
I think this guy is completely clueless about what we are trying to say here. Guy is a proper veteran who likes to be condescending. Quite possibly doesnt even do arbitrations or doesnt care about endo at all. Just likes popping in someones thread to patronize them. A player since 2013 is telling me its my fault that I dont have enough of Amber stars because I rush missions. A ridiculous guy.
On 2018-10-16 at 9:09 PM, peterc3 said:Play the game and break containers and open lockers. Guess what happens when you fly through missions as fast as possible? You don't get the things that drop.
So I did my little experiment. Did 5 mission in Void and Eris. Broke about 85% of all containers. 1 amber star. Bloody one Amber in 25min. 25min gametime to add 700 endo value to Orta and even less to other statues. (Also got nothing else of decent value and the missions themselves were boring star chart missions) Same time on Vodyanoi roughly 6000 endo.
I jump in into an arbitration for 1h, end up wit 4 statues. At least there I had a challenge and some fun.
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4 minutes ago, KIREEK said:
This player knows.
We are not saying you should neglet the mission altogether, all you need to do is make the mission profitable, the faster you destroy large volumes of crates, the more stars you get, you probably realised infested corpus ships (eris) and corpus ship tileset have many crates around, if you destroy all of them in one go (something you need to figure out if you want things done fast) then the mission will be far more efficient, all you need is to destroy them as you progress, you don't need to sidetrack, all you need is to do several things at once, like moving while killing and destorying crates. No loki decoy will not help you destroy crates, but equinox maim detonation will, this is an example.
On the long term you will find amber stars, but remember that empty statues is intentional so you have to play other game modes aswell, it also reveals that arbitrary survivals can become more profitable if you use 10 minutes to open caches and destroy crates, obviously if you avoid crates, if you merely just run in missions, if you speed run them but not make any use out of them, then you won't get anything worthwhile (not even stars), you probably already missed duzzens of amber stars without knowing and the few minutes that it would require to get them, would certainly be rewarded.
As an alternative, you can buy or trade for stars in trade chat, someone wants a berserker? ask for amber stars, someone wants a lens, ask stars, so on and so forth.
Trust me, it wont be enough. But then again, depends on a player. To me arbitrations are one of the most fun game modes in Warframe. I already got 12 ayatans in just a few days. I also skipped very few sorties, so spent plenty of ambers on those ayatans and always do a weekly maroos treasure hunt. Find at least one or two ayatans in mission per week. Amber star drop rate is nowhere near that number when arbitrations are taken into account. But anyway, you'll see, its just a matter of time until this will be changed im sure. Well, im hopeful rather than sure. And about containers - as I said earlier, in longer missions people always break them to get energy/life support. In a regular mission forget it.. Im no longer using spin to win Whips with massive range so actively going near to containers with my melee, or wasting bullets/reloading time is not something ill do in a capture/rescue/extermination. Im sure within the next month there will be a flood of people with 500+hours game time saying they just dont have enough ambers. They are 5 plat a piece now, if nothing gets changed prices might spike. And just check how very few are on offer on wf.market Thats very very telling.
Putting the Amber star into Orta ayatan yields extra 700 endo, Dont feel like paying 5p for 700 endo, no sir. Ill go on Vodyanoi and get that in 2min. Or even double that as my highest yield in 2-3min run was 1.5k endo. Average around 900.
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1 hour ago, peterc3 said:
OK then, buy other people's time and pay them for fully upgraded mods.
Or quit playing a game that so clearly doesn't fit your life and/or causes you to write a wall of text over a half-serious suggestion.
Its your patronising attitude and words "Play the game" that triggered me. Implying that not opening every single container on the map is somehow me skipping massive amount of content in the game. That was just plain stupid. That being said, you did it again by suggesting for me to quit the game just now. Over Amber stars? Endo is not a massive problem for me, but having 30% chance for 500 endo worth reward at 40th minute of an end game mission is not what DE intended im absolutely sure. As a matter of fact, lets make a bet that this will be addressed by DE eventually once too many people stack up on empty ayatans that they can only partially fill with Cyan stars.
Ive checked some of your previous posts and got a feeling that you have a tendency to be a bit of a patronising naysayer even when the suggestion itself is neither bad nor game breaking. On the other hand you put idiotic suggestions and rants down quite eloquently so kudos to you for that. But in this case you are completely wrong. Something tells me that you are at a point in the game where something as trivial as an Amber star is absolutely not on your radar in which case you should've just ignored the thread and moved on skipping the patronising veteran bit altogether.
The amount of players who have trouble with amber star drops is considerable. Just because you dont doesnt give you right to go ahead and blame players for not having enough of a certain recource (it used to be enough because you would only get ayatans rarely). Now though, with the new game mode, the droprates need to be addressed. If you cant see that then you eventually will, i guarantee you that.
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8 hours ago, peterc3 said:
Play the game and break containers and open lockers. Guess what happens when you fly through missions as fast as possible? You don't get the things that drop.
Did you just really make that idiotic suggestion to me? Should i spend 10min in a capture mission running around breaking containers, opening lockers to get 400 credits and a tiny tiny chance for an amber star that would in turn add another what? maybe 300-500 endo to the statues value? Are you bloody serious? In a game with a heavy grind and a thousand things to farm you think I will run around opening BLOODY CONTAINERS? After I read your reply at first I was speechless that someone would even make a suggestion like that. Only someone with 3k hours, every warframe/weapon built, every important mod maxed, every focus school maxed, every achievement achieved would say something as dumb as you just did. I have about 2 hours a day maximum that I can play, should I waste half of that time to find enough amber stars to fill 4 statues? Because my guess is that thats exactly how many ambers I would get in an hour. OH and of course I would have to play SOLO because noone is stupid enough to tolerate a moron running around opening containers whilst they wait at extraction. And I just realized - not following your suggestion and simply turning in EMPTY ayatans would yield me more endo per hour. Then in turn it would give me more time to enjoy THE ACTUAL BLOODY CONTENT OF THE GAME. The stuff that actually matters.
As a matter of fact, today when I get home, I will do 5 missions and clear the entire map of containers and lockers. Note the time it took to do so and how many ambers dropped. Then I will calculate how much endo I would have gained in that space of time on Vodyanoi. excavation or bounties. As a matter of fact, Ill go ahead and make a bold prediction - its gonna be a total, utter waste of gameplay time. I can bloody guarantee you that.
90% of players if forced to do something even remotely close to what you just suggested would delete the game without hesitation. If you love playing Containerframe then go ahead and do so. But please dont join public squads when you do so, as most of us would hate a player for wasting everyones time breaking containers that 99.9% of the time will reward you with 50 plastids/rubedo/circuits.
Man I havent been so angry at a forum post in years. The phrase "Play the game" just triggered me. I AM BLOODY PLAYING THE GAME the real *%$ing game with endless hordes of enemies heading my way and thats how I like it. Thats the real game. Opening containers??? For energy/life support - bloody yes. Just to get a tiny chance for an Amber ayatan - Hell no. So if your definition of a fast paced shooter game involves wasting 70% of time on the map on opening nearly worthless containes/lockers then my friend I think you would be the worst game critic in history.
EDIT : Forgot to mention that majority of my playtime is in endless type of missions or kuva missions. Most of the containers will most likely be opened to get energy/life support so its not like I or the players I play with dont already do that. The rest of the missions like Capture/Rescue/Exterminate alerts will be rushed through no doubt. And if the current drop rate for Ayatan Amber Stars would be doubled I would STILL rush through the aforementioned mission types.
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3 minutes ago, 1thurts said:
This is true and I was thinking about his issue. DE should srsly do something about it, and I believe the best way dealing with it is to add stars as one of the possible reward from the arbitration alerts.
Like a batch of 5-10 ambers would be fine I think. But tbh I would much rather get statues that are ALREADY filled.
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The droprate for ayatan stars in arbirtation missions or even the entire game in general needs to be increased drastically. You are rewarding massive amounts of EMPTY ayatan statues. Amber stars are such a rare drop that I got more RIVENS than I do amber stars. Thats just ridiculous. Once people run out of their ember stars (or even cyan stars eventually) there is gonna be masses of players complaining how little endo the arbitrations reward if you take into consideration that these players simply cannot fill their statues to get a proper value of endo. Instead they will end up with 400 endo per every 10min which is ridiculous for an endgame game mode.
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9 minutes ago, Elanair said:
Shet, you're right. It's been a while and I actually forgot that our Operators never face normal Stalker. 😂
Hrmm... I recall the first time I killed him I used Galatine + Speed Volt.
With regular Stalker I recall reading that his Hate had lower damage than his Dread and Despair so sticking to melee and chopping him up might be your best bet. Just be careful, hit him fast and hard because he staggers with Hate if memory serves right.
I googled it LOL
I didnt even notice that those two are different stalkers haha
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3 hours ago, Elanair said:
I just use the Operator AMP these days, does the job fairly quickly.
1 hour ago, (XB1)Oussii said:your operator's amp can kill him in less than 5 sec
(i use 444)
Regular stalker only appears before you even have access to operator. After you've gained access to your operator he is called "Shadow Stalker"
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7 minutes ago, Hopeofhell.T.TV said:
2nd, The Drones being franky too obnoxious, I like the idea and i was one of the few who enjoyed the idea of the Red Gems on "elite" mobs that DE showed off and canned a long time ago. This is clearly a new spin on that and well... Honestly i feel like a drone that makes mobs in a AOE utterly untouchable while being immune to powers itself is maybe, Abit much.
I just did an infested survival. When you combine those drones with Ancient Healers its a deadly combo. You got 20 infested crawling around you, Disruptor, Healer and drone. Only way to deal with that situation is RUN lol Cant kill the drone, cant kill the infested.
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39 minutes ago, HansLuft778 said:
Farm on Vodyanoi then.
What made you think that I wont? Did I say I stopped, or wont do it anymore after the arbitrations have been introduced? Got any more useless comments?
32 minutes ago, OvisCaedo said:I do sort of hope they readjust the drop rates for amber versus cyan stars. I break open boxes needlessly a lot more than I should when I play, but I'm down to... uh... one amber star. Meanwhile I have sold hundreds of cyan stars and still have another hundred left. it is baffling when people say that they drop proportionally to usage.
Either that or give us filled ayatans. Because the way it is now, the game mode will die very very quickly.
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I got no more than a weeks worth of ayatan amber stars left. So when those run out, am I gonna be getting 300-400 worth of endo every 10min? So potentially i will end up with roughly 2k-3k endo every 1h of high level missions at best. If i join Vodyanoi I will get at least 8 times that amount in the same time. Ok, I will use the cyan stars to fill them, to bump that endo number up, but even then the total amount of endo is still way lower than farming it on Vodyanoi.
Also gonna run out of Cyan Stars as well in a months time. So after that arbitrations will only be a "fun" thing to do once a week. With very very minimal benefits.
P.S.
A bad run on Vodyanoi will provide me with 1.2k-1.5k of endo in 10mins. A good run can bump that to 5k every 10min. So arbirtations to me will be just a fun thing to do occasionally when there is a 300 str buff availaible for the right frame/weapon that id like to mess around with. But other than that? Got nothing much going for it.
Arbitrations : Ayatan Star drop rate
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Sure, why not. Otherwise the pile of Vitus Essence will grow endlessly. About Cyan stars though, I think those drop plenty. Only issue people have are Ambers. My ratio before arbitrations was 40:400 (ambers:cyan)