Inez
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Vermintide, Dirty Bomb and Sunless Sea
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Ditto to no batteries in excavations.
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Presumably DE will double the ammo drops. And the clip size on every weapon.
And as long as they are doing that, there's no real point in changing multishot ammo consumption.
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This change will effectively remove many, many weapons from the game.
Less player choice is good?
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In another thread today, I learned that too many people are leeching. And here is a thread complaining people are killing to much.
Am I supposed to constantly check the mission results to be sure I maintain the perfect 25% kill ratio? Or should it be 25% of damage? What amount can I break this ratio by before I have to apologize to the group? Or leave the mission? What if one player has an unranked Kraken he is trying to level? Am I allowed to take his 25% or should that 25% be split among the remaining 3 players? Or am I supposed to stand around twiddling my thumbs waiting for the Kraken guy to get his 25% of the total kills for fear he will run to the forums and post another scathing 'Nerf (whichever Warframe/weapon I was using)' thread.
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while old excalibur was not the best frame he at least had some personality and was actually fun to get in a bit of a struggle.
now we have soulless wave spam that destroy everything beyond belief that is called "new improved and known for his melee skills vaporizing everything in 40m in front of him with his sword excalibur"
Radial Blind Excal was "the best" and Radial Javelin Excal was pretty dang good.
As the poster boy for warframe, it's appropriate that his skills are top tier.
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desecrate and pilfering swarm should be replaced, and the drop chances for all items should be globally buffed greatly. Then Hydroid should get a real augment (and players should get to choose between getting the new augment and a 20 or so core pack) and Nekros should get a rework.
TL;DR: just as tying player speed to melee wasn't a good thing, neither is tying item acquisition to frames/abilities/mods. Buff the global drop rate and free these items from being farmbots.
Are you serious? DE changed Pilfering Swarm specifically to slow down item acquisition. They want us to grind more.
While I 100% agree with you, asking for this is like asking the IRS if you could just not pay your taxes this year.
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DE are not the good guys here, they are not nerfing Hydroid to help us.
They are nerfing Hydroid so we have to have to grind more. Need Orokin Cells or Neural Sensors? Now it will take twice as long. If you enjoy long grinds, I suppose this is a good thing. Most people would rather be doing other things, and long grinds just increase burn out.
They could've achieved the exact same effect by halving all drop rates. Except it would've been harder for the 'forum faithful' to defend them.
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I think eventually you guys will come to the realization, that this is not actually a nerf.
Stop hyperventilating, and think for a second about what this means. It means you no longer have to rely on the tentacles actually being the thing to kill the enemy, just die while on them. This doesn't just encourage team play. It means Hydroid's tentacles can get way more kills at a way faster rate because the entire squad can just unload on them. I think this means that you are going to find overall that the loot drops are not nerfed.
Also this doesn't break the Equinox combo because Tentacle Swarm itself is not affected... just Pilfering Swarm. Equinox can still help hydroid kill stuff faster, which means more loot drops because more enemies killed on the tentacles quicker.
It also is a buff because now Pilfering Swarm scales better than before. Before it was only effective as long as Hydroid's power strength was still enough to quickly kill the enemies. Once that scaling falls off, it's not useful anymore. With this change it can scale as long as the squad can still kill enemies quickly. That is a huge buff for Hydroid end game potential!
I think people are really misinterpreting what's going on here. This change is not just a tweak to encourage team play... it's a Hydroid buff. And you guys are calling it a nerf... it's just amazing to me how people can get it so wrong...
I think some of ya'll just want to be bad, because you can't stand change in any form even though you are playing a beta game.
It's apparent from your post that you've never played a properly modded Pilfering Hydroid.
Maybe you should try that, and -then- leave feedback.
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How are players that don't camp hurt by DE? If you wanna run around, run around.
Since I know you're not gonna answer my question, let me answer it for you: you're hurt because you're no longer sharing affinity with your team. Survival is pretty nice for leveling if people stick together.
The obvious solution is to make affinity sharing have infinite range in survivals, just like interceptions. Yet, not one single anti-camping whiner has ever proposed this in these forums. At least not that I've seen, someone feel free to prove me wrong.
Why have none of the anti-camping people ever proposed this? I have no idea. I assume most of them are new to Warframe and don't know about affinity sharing, but I could easily be wrong.
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So you admit that most people choose to camp, for whatever reason. But you also feel that the choice to camp shouldn't be their choice. Bright, objectively right-thinking people like you have decided that choice should be taken away from them.
I like having choices in my video games. I'm just crazy like that.
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I'm willing to bet my sample size is much bigger than your sample size :)
People don't clamour for camping because DE thinks camping is wrong. They made this clear long ago. Clamouring for something that someone is opposed to seems kinda pointless. Kinda like asking my hot lesbian friend for sex.
In spite of the lack or clamouring, people always camp the hell outta missions that give them good rewards. So obviously, the desire is there.
As an experiment go run some random void survivals and survivals on neural sensor or orokin cell planets. Record how many of those groups camp and how many don't. You know the majority of groups are gonna ask you to camp, which is the whole reason you made this thread.
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You're saying I missued the word 'objectively'?
If you were to spend more time playing the game and less trolling the forums, you'd see that the majority of players like camping. Its the whole reason you started this thread. People in your games wanna camp, and rather than leave group or explain that you don't enjoy camping, you come to the forums to vent.
Since Viver, I've prolly done a hundred survivals or more. And when someone asks "should we camp?" or "where should we camp?" no one has ever said "camping is objectively worse than running around like I'm on crack" or otherwise disagreed with camping.
So are all you anti-camping people just really shy in game? You sure seem hostile and assertive here on the forums.
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Wrong again. If we can be objective about anything, Warframe's ideal gameplay of run & gun is objectively better game design than people sitting in a virtual sewer for 2 hours doing nothing but shooting in the same direction and pressing '3' ('4' for Loki) every 2 seconds.
Objectively, the majority of Warframe players like camping. The whole reason we have threads like this is because a disgruntled minority is pushing back against the majority which is fine with camping.
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Steel Fiber is useless on Loki. Steel Fiber is muliplicative with your frame's armor, meaning it is useless on low armor frames.
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Spot on.
"ZOMG Stop trying to encouraging me to have fun playing this game"
Seriously though, there are a couple of things going on there.
Firstly, this subforum is the only one full of seriously disgruntled players. Go compare it with the other ones in the Feedback category. Complaining in an non-constructive way is unique to this one.
Part of the problem is that DE don't distinguish between 'complaining' vs creative helpful suggestions. If it's not in one of the other categories (many of which get so little traffic they don't work), it all gets lumped in here. That means, anyone who likes criticising -- particularly if they're addicted to Warframe but are bored from playing it too much -- comes here.
I was testing this here:
https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/496217-nobody-else-excited-about-sharkwing/
In a thread aiming at the neutral/optimistic players, still got a 50/50 mix. Neutral/optimistic players are actually a minority here!
Here's the other thing. I posted about this a while ago. When Parkour 2.0 comes in, those who've played the longest are going to be screwed for hours trying to unlearn coptering et al (expect hate threads).
Video games change our brains. PvE grindy video games encourage us to look for efficient ways of doing things. We become conditioned to value efficiency over gameplay. Hands up if you don't farm Draco.
Believe it or not, many players think the grind is the game. They complain about it, sure, and that's why Warframe is known as a grindfest in and outside of the community, even though it's perfectly possible to play for months without grinding.
Viver was before my time but if you look at E-Gate, at least 60% of people posting about it here wanted to keep that BS. Incredible.
The only thing to do is not take the disgruntled players seriously. And lobby DE for a better feedback forum.
Not sure if the irony was intended, but YOU are the disgruntled player here.
The vast majority of players in game either want to or don't mind camping.
Your 'constructive' feedback is for something people don't want fixed.
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Funny how 90% of the people who actually play Warframe wanna camp in survivals, but in the forums a majority think camping is a 'blight' on Warframe.
Yes exactly. Was in freaking Apollodarus yesterday and nearly laughed when some random mentioned a camp spot. Didn't say anything cuz I wrote them off as lazy. Then they get on and are like: not to be mean we can't revive you if you go down.
Then don't revive me! It got so annoying cuz they wouldn't let the topic die with me blatantly ignoring them. Then they go down three times and rezzed by another team member and *@##$ out to the exit at 30 mins mark.
In the mission results screen I had 976 kills going strong with literally most of the damage done etc. And this loser breathing down my neck had like 176 and was incapped 2 or 3 times.
Normally I don't care at all about randoms and how they play as long as they don't troll me and cover the life support modules so I don't have to. << only reason I stay in public mode really. But it just really annoys me when someone has some set method of play and insists on others following his style when he is the biggest burden in the group. It's like: your way clearly doesn't work so just shut up or leave already.At least by leaving he can't hurt the group more by staying and being a liability.So a newer player wants you to stick close by because he's new to the game and afraid he'll go down? Yeah, what a jerk.
Good thing you showed him how Warframe 'pros' only care about total kills and couldn't care less about shared affinity.
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And the 5 sec cd is annoying. Thanks for making our point :D
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if i wish speed run i will use folt with max duration..... dont see pont of that move at all
The point is you're not forced forced to play Volt.
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this explains that you do not enjoy playing Warframe, just getting more stats to feel like you have more of them than someone else.
if playing Missions isn't fun, interesting and entertaining for you to do, then it's unlikely you will ever like anything in the game, because it all revolves around playing Missions.
This explains why you have some many forums posts. You post without thinking.
DE increasing the grind in an already grindy game makes it less enjoyable. If you're gonna reply again, please take a second to think about your reply.
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see the issue is not if 4 people do this i am cool with it.
The issue is when u bring this to random and public matches.
Then when you try to apply this same logic to the people who just joined to have fun.
Like people said their are not many nodes people actaully play but you can always count on draco being played .so if u want to play with people you goto draco ,but then people don't want you in draco cause ur not like them and then you don't want to be in draco cause ur not having fun.So u leave ,but you still want to play with people.then u just face.
An example i did an interception mission the guy wanted 4 loki i thought maybe he is gonna have fun with this so i asked him what build what the strategy is he tells me then....then once we are inside he said don't kill and just murder things that get near the consoles we don't want to spawn any nulls.....i am like kind fo hard to do i kind of play this game for fun.He says well so do i but this t4 interception.It wasn't even the guys keys i ask the key holder he said nothing.They were cool with playing like this well since the key holder was cool with it i had to play this way did i have fun..No..but i wanted to reap the rewards.Then after 10 round we were gonna extract well everyone except the key holder extracted so we lost the rewards and it said mission failed.
Well i was upset it was waste of my finite time on earth not having fun
So quit leeching and farm your own keys?
Ya gotta admire the self-entitlement in these "I'm too lazy to farm my own void keys but I'm still gonna cry in the forums about the people who are generous enough to share their keys with me" posts.
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+1 to this.
If I don't quit playing for the day because I am bored of it after playing for hours, it is because I start getting a cramp from the repetitive button mashing of slide jump/coptoring
As it turns out, PC games allow you to change your keys. You should try it.
The more you know!
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No play style is superior to another play style. It's a game. it is entertainment. How you gain entertainemnt from it is neither superior nor inferior to how someone else gains entertainment from it.
I think it's safe to say that at least 80% of the people who post in these forums strongly disagree with this statement. Most forum posters feel that the only correct way to play is their way, and that DE should force everyone to play that way.
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I had fun before that coptering trend, I will have fun after ASWELL...
Grinding out 120 NM missions (Armored Agility) without coptering would not be fun.
I'm assuming DE understands that most of the vet players will quit if the new movement system is too slow.
The Ignore Function And Its Abuse
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This exactly is why trade chat is so horrible. The seller obviously has a price in mind, but refuses to share even a ballpark figure. It feels like they simply want to waste your time, but actually they're just looking for someone to rip off charging them far more than its worth.
You can safely add anyone in trade chat that says "PM offer" to your ignore list and save yourself tons of time.