(NSW)Gregory
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27 minutes ago, WhiteMarker said:
The thing is, that the economy doesn't work like that.
DE wanting something doesn't lead to it happening. As I said, the other companies have to get in line for all of that to happen. And there is nothing in it for Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo (And the guys that make the Switch Port)
The other companies would have to spend more money, just so that Warframe could get cross-platform and/or cross-progress. But they won't get anything in return. Warframe won't generate more money just because of the cross-progress-stuff. It will generate the same amount of money, but everyone involved would have to spend more money on the game.
Nobody would do such a thing. Nobody.That's the sad truth for a small game such as Warframe.
I stand by what I said.
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4 hours ago, WhiteMarker said:
It's a matter of Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo speeding up ther cert-process. And then there is this other company that makes Warframe's Switch-Port for DE.
They need to work faster aswell, because consoles needs to update, when the PC-version does.
And DE said, that PC will NEVER have to wait for updates. PC gets updates when they are ready.
So yeah, as I said, consoles need to speed up things. But why would giant companies like Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony do that for a small fry called DE? (Sorry for using that term)DE doesn't have any saying in that. It's the other companies that have to do something. Again the major question: Why would these companies do that?
So to conclude everything:
You have no source. You just made something up. Nice one.It was more like an assertion of faith in DE's ability to come through despite all opposition and everyone believing they can't.
You ever read "The Little Engine that Could"? That's DE. "I think I can, I think I can, I think I can".
We all know the obstacles. They've been reiterated ad nauseam. But for every problem there is a solution or a loophole.
Where there's a will, there's a way. That is my firm belief.
You're welcome to disagree, of course. But to assert that I simply "made it up" isn't exactly...accurate.
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21 minutes ago, WhiteMarker said:
You don't mind to post a source, confirming all of this, don't you?
And no, them saying it would be nice having it, doesn't mean they will do it.Confirming all what?
They said they want to do it. And when they want to do something, they usually make it happen.
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Warframe will eventually have Fortnite style crossplay. Maybe not this year, but they WILL.
They want to do it. They’re going to make it happen. Maybe this year we’ll get the first increment of it, with item sharing.
I used to equate rebuying everything on a new console as akin to purchasing another Skyrim port. But then I remembered, Skyrim only costs 60$. I’ve dropped hundreds on the PS4 Pro, and now I’ve spent hundreds more on the Switch.
This is not, and will never be, okay. Excuses and reasoning be damned. -
I do have to wonder though, if they do implement it in increments like they said is more possible, what happens if you bought the same Prime Access/Unvaulting twice?
Like, I bought the Fire & Ice unvaulting on PS4, and if I buy it again on Nintendo, and then transfer over my purchases to the Xbox, will I have two Ember Primes/Frost Primes etc.? -
4 hours ago, VenomousValentine said:
They said in the latest dev stream they were planning this.
I know. That’s why I bumped the thread with the quote.
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“As a player, I would love it. As a developer, it’s one of the highest-risk things we can do. Because a lot of the games that are doing it (and it’s still very early days for this), a lot of those games came late to the platforms and had different negotiating environments to establish their contracts. On top of that, we are a game that is constantly changing. We change the game modes, we change the gameplay. We do huge, huge swings constantly. It is something that we’re all interested in and we do discuss it.
Although we would like to do this, it is something I don’t think that we can promise right now in January. Maybe there are different degrees of this. One that we’ve been talking about is allowing you to share progress between the platforms, share items, something like that.
Those things are a lot more doable than getting everything in sync and doing complete cross-play than it is a sudden, overnight switch.”
I’m feeling optimistic. I know they can’t promise anything, but still. I have faith that (if not soon, then eventually) they will make it happen. -
On 2019-01-10 at 12:53 AM, Stalker_Cake said:
because we always need more cake
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Yo.
So here’s what I personally would like to see Warframe developers strive for in 2019. As the title suggests- third party accounts. Like how Epic Games does things.
You have one account, and you can login to that account on any platform. All progress and purchases are tied to that account.
With the introduction of these accounts, you’d have the option to migrate all purchases from your PC, PS4, Xbox, and Switch accounts. You can migrate progress over from one of your accounts, or you can choose to start fresh.
Yes, I’m aware this topic is gonna get a lot of hate. No, that isn’t going to prevent me from posting it. It’s a great idea.
Anticipated responses:
”But Sony/Microsoft etc. won’t allow it”
They allowed Fortnite. DE just needs to push for a new deal with these companies.
”But Fornite isn’t Warframe”
No, but if they can do it, anyone with enough skill and know how can.
”Are you a developer? How would you know what can and can’t be done?”
It was done, ergo, it can be done.
”But Warframe is just a small company. They don’t have the pull”
I’m really tired of people underestimating this company, and nobody is asking them to do it alone.
“But until all the builds are the same, crossplay just isn’t possible.”
That’s a good point. DE needs to either find a way around this, or get all platforms on the same version.
“You’re entitled.”
Bi*** I might be.
”inB4thrdlocked”
M’kay den.
”Let’s derail this thread with pictures of cats”
I mean...I like cats. 🤷♂️
If full on Fortnite style crossplay isn’t possible, synced purchases at least. If you buy Prime Access on one account, you should be granted it on all platforms.
That’s right. Account linking. I’d settle for that, at least in the short term.-
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On 2018-12-28 at 5:41 PM, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said:
Again, DE doesn’t carry that much weight in the gaming world. We have the best F2P game out there, but that’s about it. They don’t have to pull to pressure Microsoft or Sony to do as they ask.
Again, they can team up and work together with other companies.
They’ve already started nurturing relationships with Panic Button, and Fortnite developers are literally GIVING away the tools they used to make it happen.
Digital Extremes is the little company that succeeded against all odds. If they committed themselves to it, they could make it happen.
Also, to those who said they don’t want cross platform play- there is literally zero (sensible) reason to be against it, and every platform would benefit from an increased playerbase and merged player run marketplace. Especially Switch. We’re freaking choking to death.
Also, DCUO sucks, especially it’s community management and forum moderation. They ban everyone who criticizes the game, no matter how fairly. But they have at least begun PC/PS4 cross platform play, thus proving it is possible.
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14 minutes ago, DatDarkOne said:
I think both PS4 and XB1 had it since the beginning, but never really emphasized. Both 360 and PS3 did. I don't see why their successors wouldn't have it also. I never tested it on either PS4 or XB1 myself to know for sure.
Well, I tried it on the PS4 and PS4 Pro. Didn’t work. I read there was a special adapter or something though.
3 minutes ago, ZXI-Nova said:At that point you could just use a PC, you can even have the same "experience" so to speak.
Yeah, but I have really bad luck with PCs. Even when I get the ones with really good specs, they somehow turn out to be glitchy or wonky as heck.
With an Xbox One X or Xbox One S, and consoles in general, there’s a certain peace of mind. No worrying about builds or customizing or stuff like that.
Plus the Xbox One S was on sale for like, 200$ last I checked. Might be over though... -
4 minutes ago, MagPrime said:
PS4 does as well.
Since when?!
Not that I’d ever go back to Sony...
2 minutes ago, DatDarkOne said:Ahhh, the plight of the early adopter. Sorry to hear that Tenno.
Aye.
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1 hour ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said:
This isn’t DE’s decision. It’s Sony’s and Microsoft’s. And before you cry “But Fortnites doing it!”. DE isn’t Epic Games. They don’t have this gigantic pull within the world of game development to just have stuff like this happen.
Fortnite will pave the way for successful but not as successful games like Warframe.
https://www.altchar.com/games-news/583672/epic-will-let-devs-use-fortnites-cross-play-tech
Or at least, Fortnite is trying to. Warframe devs should go on a warpath. Make a resolution, unite with other companies, put pressure on Microsoft, Sony, and whoever else they need to.
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2 hours ago, MagPrime said:
Why the change, again?
Because I just found out Xbox has mouse and keyboard support.
Also, the Switch version is an effing mess right now.
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I think I may start playing on the Xbox...
Or PC.
And so once again, the hundreds of dollars I’ve spent on Warframe will amount to naught.
*sigh*
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3 hours ago, MagPrime said:
Because reasons.
I could go into it but, I'd rather not bring General Discussion antics here and risk getting the thread locked.
I don’t think there’s ever going to be a last post. They’d probably just remove the offending posts.
3 hours ago, MagPrime said:Who's got a cringy .gif for the holidays?
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Since Rebecca on Twitter replied to me asking for more details...
Enemies sometimes don't spawn during defend the area missions.
Enemies vital to mission completion sometimes spawn below the map or way high up in the air.
On missions where timers are critical, timers don't start or even appear, and this has at least in one instance resulted in endless defend the area missions. Enemies kept dropping from ships without end, and mission success was literally impossible because there was no countdown.
Today the very first task in a bounty was bugged. No matter how many times I entered or left the area, the timer wouldn't start. I was supposed to find the Grineer Caches, and normally there's a time limit, but there was none this time. Lotus didn't pipe up when I entered the area. There were no caches in the area. Nothing worked.
Other missions have broken and bugged aside from just Cetus bounties, but it's almost guaranteed to happen every (or every other) bounty you run. At least on the higher difficulties.
Usually the bugs are all the same- either spawn related, or timer related, or enemies not being accurately counted (during extermination missions sometimes you'll keep killing but the number won't go up anymore) so this goes beyond Cetus...but it's most frequent in Cetus, at least in my experience.
I think DE needs to spend more time playing the Switch version so they can discover these bugs themselves.
Edit: I'd just like to add that there are a lot more bugs than this. These are just the ones I can remember on the top of my head right now. -
Pox.
The part you throw stays default, but the hip holsters or whatever they are color as normal. -
57 minutes ago, MagPrime said:
That requires account linking between all platforms and 3/4 of those platforms losing out on a portion of those sales.
With how each individual market is set up, each company gets a cut of the sale. It's not just DE's wallet that doesn't get the profit but PS4, XBox1 and the Switch if you buy on PC and have it transferred over.
No company is going to agree to something that loses them thousands.
What are you talking about?
If you buy it on PC, it all goes to DE doesn't it?
- and if you buy it on PS4, Xbox One, or the Switch, DE also gets paid, don't they?
So either way, wherever you buy it, you've paid DE for the content. And the PC side of things is 100% DE. No other companies would be affected, and no other companies have authority. If they lose thousands, it'll be because they're no longer being paid 2/3/4 times for the same content. It's not really a loss when they shouldn't have been getting paid that much to begin with.
And besides, PC players got to keep mostly everything they bought. Why only them? Sure, platinum didn't carry over, but everything they bought with platinum did. Except for a select few cosmetics maybe. Why is it fair that only PC players get to keep their purchases? -
Excuses, excuses.
Nobody should have to buy the same thing thrice, or quadruple times now that the Switch is out. They could come up with a solution, they just don’t want to because it benefits them.
Maybe the consoles won’t allow it, but there’s nothing stopping them from regranting what you’ve purchased on the consoles on the PC.
You bought Limbo Prime on PS4, they could just grant you it on the PC too. No permission needed. It’s theirs, and only theirs.
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10 hours ago, angias said:
It's because different platform use separate server and database.
Updating the same profile on multiple database is quite expensive.
Why is there multiples database instead of a singular? Dunno, either because different platform mean different politic or because having so many user logging at the same time would create quite the traffic. (We have seen countless example of server being saturated)
Like I said. They could fix it if they cared.
The fact that they’ve accomplished this much already is proof that where there’s a will, there’s a way.
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People always sucking DEs metaphorical d over how not anti-consumer they are, but nobody talks about how bs it is that you gotta buy Prime Access three times over if you wanna play on different platforms.
Over 140$ times 3. That’s bonkers. Even 60$ times 3 if all you get is the cosmetics is still crazy.
DE gotta fix this, pronto. They smart cookies. They could fix it if they cared.
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I just hate that if I buy something, I only have access to it on one platform.
I spent probably at least a thousand dollars on the PS4 port, and what do I have to show for it now I’m playing on the Switch? Nothing.
It’s total bull. Least PC players were able to migrate and bring over their primes and everything. Even the stuff they couldn’t migrate will probably be added later.
- and people ask why we say they don’t give a crud about consoles.
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11 minutes ago, angias said:
Talking about warframe....or life in general?
Warframe, but you know what?
Life too. 😂
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Had a chance to buy my first Quanta Vandal yesterday.
Mastery Rank wasn’t high enough though.
Guess I’ll have to wait several more months or longer for it to appear again.
Sucks to be me.