Oldskinzz
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Kahl missions were one of the most irritating things in the game. Playing as a slow and fragile guy with limited weapon choices is a complete reverse from what Warframe is to most of us, but it had to be done for that precious time limited resource, archon shards. Glad that's gone now.
The fly in the ointment here is that farming cavia standing is slow, certainly much slower than running a kahl mission. 30k standing is not to be sniffed at, and i wouldn't mind seeing the cost reduced a little.
For those having trouble with cavia standing, Orokin eye is a great help. Take it to your weekly netracell missions and and activate it along the way to the three consoles and the netracell area. You can activate it 2 to 3 times a mission and it usually gets me at least 3 to 5 vocas per mission, more if other players help out. That should net you some 10k standing a week in 5 netracell missions with minimal additional work.
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I absolutely agree people running meta builds or even any semi decent aoe build make a mission boring for the rest of the team with everything just dying before coming into sight. Thing is, aoe is simply faster and more time-efficient. A typical exterminate can take 2 minutes with an aoe build or 5 minutes killing enemies one by one. Many players just want to clear the mission fast for the rewards and move on to the next. I've done that too when I don't have much time to play. So I'm not really in favor of things getting nerfed so I need to run missions in a good team.
Also coordinating teamwork between 4 random players is another nightmare. Plus you'll get the elitist jerks screaming at others when their lofty standards aren't met. Many casual players just want to hop into a mission and play, not spend time in recruit channel typing H x mission sp 1/4...
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Not saying you're wrong, it can be quite difficult for a solo inexperienced player. But here's my advice... Do it in a team. Get into the matchmaking channel and form a team (less chance of grief) or take a chance and hop into a pub. Everytime this challenge rolls around I see lots of Limbos in pub index matches so there's a pretty good chance you'll land in a team that can do the job without too much hassle.
To put things in perspective, killing a silver Grove specter isn't difficult either but it involves going around scanning plants and there are people who dislike doing that in a war game... this is probably the group DE wanted to appease when they removed it. So to each his own, can't please everyone.
You also have the option of skipping the challenge entirely and you'll still get enough points to complete the whole NW by season's end anyway... I'm doing that for the stuff I don't like, such as Orb Vallis bounties.-
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No matter how you build your pet there will come a point where it will die from a combination of poor AI and overwhelming enemy dps. In most missions you can just revive it, but in arbys it dies for good.
For very long arby missions you can consider Djinn with Reawaken, it's squishy but you have an unlimited number of revives for it with a 90 second wait. And build your frame for the inevitable death of your companion, such as putting on Enemy sense or Enemy radar so you won't be blinded when you lose your pet. Vacuum is annoying to lose but you can mostly compensate or ignore it... resources (most players in such long runs won't give a crap anyway), ammo pickups (you'll likely be using just melee or abilities since your guns won't be as effective) and orbs (bring pizzas or use zenurik if doing heavy casting).
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I've just gotten the same bug from my arby defence, also in void. Seems like all in void so far? Every hit -2.147 billion damage.
Edit: messed up formatting
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DE's approach to balance has generally been a massive neutering of said item all in one go, rather than small measured steps. Think Maiming strike, Catchmoon, Condition Overload, Bloodrush and many others. Looks like the trend is set to continue.
Before anyone mentions rivens, they aren't so much balancing as a popularity contest.
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1 hour ago, ShichiseitenYasha said:
These are resources that I have thousands of, that I get without even trying to obtain them, where as platinum I only have the option of either winning, purchasing, or trading it. 5 platinum over 7 3-packs is another 3-pack for free by just using the more readily available resource to lessen the amount of premium currency you need to use.
So, good for you then, feel free to continue in the way you like. In my case I'm generally not too concerned about spending 5 plat more or less on a purchase. Each to his own.
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4 hours ago, (XB1)ShadowBlood89 said:
if they were to do this to make it more balanced they might have you trade in 10 forma blueprints to get a 10x forma blueprint
That's exactly what I said.
3 hours ago, ShichiseitenYasha said:The same could be said that DE also makes money from people rushing Forma. If you have the resources, a Forma costs half as much to rush than it does to buy from the market, and still costs 5 plat less than buying a 3 pack. In this respect, they could just make a pack that extends this to its logical end, a 10 pack that costs 100 platinum to rush, as well as a market pack for 10 platinum that costs say 110-115.
Rushing never seems worth it to me as you still spend the resources and blueprint for a tiny saving of 5 plat over a bundle of 3. I'd much rather spend the 35 plat for a 3-bundle outright.
4 hours ago, Cicasajt said:never. de makes a lot of money from ppl buying forma.
If making money was the only factor DE considers then there would be lots of things they wouldn't do, such as handing out the occasional freebie via GOTL alerts, or by making most crucial items (potatoes etc) available through f2p means. However they have proven time and again that they are willing to take the long term view by improving the overall gaming experience in order to make their customers (gamers) happy. And happy gamers tend to spend more... on warframe and weapon slots, loadout slots etc.
Forma sales probably would be affected, though there may not be a total market crash or even a significant reduction in forma sales since a 10x blueprint won't reduce the need for blueprints and resources. Those who don't want to farm the resources will still buy forma from the market.
2 hours ago, KnightKrawlur said:DE would just make the craft time 10 days so they could watch people complain. lol.
Shh don't give them ideas...
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Is it time for 10x Forma blueprints?
To maintain original Forma supply, just make it so that the 10x Forma crafting recipe requires 10x normal (single) Forma blueprints.
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7 hours ago, SneakyErvin said:
I can only remember the old vandal meta which was about getting 100% crit chance, 100% status, gas, hunter munitions and multishot, all with a riven that had negative puncture.
This would lead to 4 guarateed crits atleast (2 from the main shot, 2 from the magnetic AoE) followed by the chance for either up to 2 slash procs from the gun itself or up to two auto crit gas procs giving 2 additional rolls on hunter munitions. Elemental mods have never had any effect on the magnetic AoE since more instances of Gas have never been present. If elemental mods did effect the magnetic proc you'd have two possible auto crit gas procs more, which never was the case. With 100% status your magnetic aoe would always proc the magnetic effect, nothing else.
Base damage mods may have effected the magnetic proc, but it has never been of much focus in any build if it did or didnt.
edit: We've also never been able to see the magnetic stat on the gun until the latest patch, it has been a hidden thing prior to that.
I see where you got your conclusion from, thanks. Yes the magnetic stat showing up is a new thing, good to have but looks like it's still rather inaccurate.
6 hours ago, Robolaser said:Ok these Arsenal UI numbers seemed off so i did few quick simulacrum tests, and found that:
- 4.6m radius seems correct, hard to measure exactly but definitely 4-5m
- AoE radius CAN be increased with Firestorm. Not reflected in AUI.
- Base AoE damage is very close to 200, not 100. Again hard to tell exactly with the falloff (max i got was 191).
- AoE damage falloff seems to be around 80% (191->40), not 60%.
- AoE damage CAN be increased with damage mods, and elemental mods. Not reflected in AUI.
- AoE CAN proc status. Innate magnetic, and modded additional elements as well.
- AoE additional elements are not shown in AUI.
- AoE can crit and proc hunter munitions.These are for the Vandal version, sorry too lazy to also test vanilla Opticor.
Thanks for taking the effort to test! I did a bit of Simulacrum testing as well, and got similar results for the base AOE damage... tried a direct hit i.e. no falloff it was 193. Weirdly AOE crits from direct hits dealt 478 damage, rather shy of the expected 502 damage. Close enough to the original but still off.
So my take from this is:
1. AOE damage was not nerfed, only seems to be slightly off expected values.
2. Falloff damage displayed is off
3. UI is extremely off
Would be good if the devs could take a closer look at this.
Anyone with more info to share e.g. on vanilla Opticor would be most welcome.
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Here's the picture... sorry it's a lousy pic, I'm a novice at this.
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56 minutes ago, SneakyErvin said:
Weapon mods aside from multishot have never had any impact on it since multishot is the only stat that alters how many magnetic AoEs will happen, that is why the damage number increases because it takes the probablity of multishot into account when adding up potential damage. That is more or less a side result of MS buffing the probability of main shots, since with each main shot a low magnetic AoE will happen along the line of the shot when coming into contact with a target or surface.
The reduced magnetic damage from 400/200 to 200/100 will have nearly no noticable effect on the damage since it was pretty insignificant before aswell. Atleast it is a chance for a magnetic proc, if the Aoe can proc things at all (cant remember).
I'm unable to find much info on the modding of the AOE, but my gut feeling after today's sortie, which is the first time I've used it post-27.2, was that the weapon is quite a bit weaker than before. Can you point me towards any source that says the magnetic AOE can't be modded? I did a quick check on Semlar's weapon builder which still has all the old numbers, and it clearly showed the AOE magnetic explosion being treated as base weapon damage, i.e. affected by Serration, Heavy Cal, elementals and crit mods.
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And to normal Opticor too.
Each attack of the Opticor/Vandal used to deal 400/200 Magnetic damage in a 5m radial blast around point of impact. Now it has been changed to 200/100 damage, radius 4.6m. So far as I could tell, no mention of this was in the update notes.
And what's worse, most weapon mods on my Opticor Vandal do not appear to affect this radial blast at all... only Multishot seems to be changing the damage numbers. With a full set of serration, heavy cal, split chamber, point strike/vital sense, vile acceleration, 90% elemental and riven, sheet damage increases from 100 to 273.3 (my riven adds 83.3% multishot, with split chamber total 173.3%, so it adds up). I'm unable to test the normal Opticor as I've sold my old one.
The mods not affecting radial blast damage may be a bug which I hope gets fixed soon (no other weapon with radial attack has this problem), but the damage reduction does not seem unintentional as both normal and Vandal Opticors are similarly affected. One would ask why, as both Opticors were good weapons but hardly OP in any way. First the self stagger, then the AOE falloff, now this.
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Everyone who's mad about being teamkilled in rad sorties clearly has forgotten Mesmer Skin exists.
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On 2019-12-25 at 12:13 AM, SortaRandom said:
Wait, actually? I've never heard of this being the case, although... it would definitely explain the unexpected differences in attack speeds for several of my Zaw builds.
Dang, TIL. 😮
Yes it's surprising but true. Here's the link:
https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Berserker
Quote from page:
The attack speed buff from Berserker is independent of mods and therefore stacks multiplicatively with them.
For example, in combination with Spoiled Strike and Primed Fury, the weapon's attack speed will be at
(1 - 0.2 + 0.55) × (1 + 0.75) = 2.3625x of its base. /quote -
I did this test the normal way before the fix that broke it, but I cheesed the MR19 test using an archgun to clear the map from the start point before strolling in to save the hostage. Not sure if there's any mastery lock in your way, but that cheese could help.
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I believe the reasoning behind this build of double speed mods is because P fury actually stacks multiplicatively with Berserker. So it is a better bonus than simple addition stacking like PPP and CO.
That being said, organ shatter or a decent CD riven would give more DPS and should never be overlooked in favour of another speed mod.
I build all my melee with primed reach. It's equally as important as a damage mod imo, since you can't damage what you can't hit.
Lastly, if you take Naramon school you can omit drifting contact and slot another damage mod or p reach.
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Third base
*wonders if a ban is incoming*
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I would only agree that syndicate offerings could use some updating to keep their usefulness relevant. Otherwise once a player has purchased all the archwing parts, cosmetics and warframe augments needed, the syndicate ceases to be useful except for relic packs perhaps.
Adding exilus weapon adapters was a nice touch and could be expanded further. Purchaseable forma blueprints anyone? Just to get another avenue for using up that syndicate standing which seems to pile up.
With regards to the enmity between syndicates, I've no problem with that but some expanding of the lore behind would be nice along with some related quests or missions to fight rival syndicates (I've wanted to kick the rear ends of those New Loka meddling hippies for a long time). Getting stuff from enemy syndicates is as simple as selling stuff from your own syndicate then buying stuff from enemy syndicates with that plat earned.
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My riven stat ranking would go something like this for hybrid crit/status running blood rush and co.
Top tier: cd, range, attack speed
Second tier: cc, damage, elemental, status chance, combo duration
Undesirable tier: impact/puncture, slide crit, finisher, heavy attack
Situational: faction, slash
Might have missed a couple of stats.
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I feel your pain, but I think you should have immediately aborted early on once you noticed the lag and were unable to open doors. That's what I usually do anyway.
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5 minutes ago, bibmobello said:
Yes... I tried it against a human 155 corpus demolidt and it can kill it in 2 shots with gas+magnetic. I was asking if having less status or using bloodrush instead of primed fever strike is better.
Forgot to add, you'll need 100% status as the individual pellet status chance is calculated like a shotgun. So reducing status is not an option.
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Just now, bibmobello said:
Yes... I tried it against a human 155 corpus demolidt and it can kill it in 2 shots with gas+magnetic. I was asking if having less status or using bloodrush instead of primed fever strike is better.
I wasn't replying to you, but to the other poster. His suggested build didn't mention condition overload at all, when it should be the cornerstone of a redeemer build imo.
Where 4x elemental combinations are concerned, corrosive blast is normally my go to for infested and rad viral for grineer and corpus up to around sortie level. For levels above 150 or so, corrosive blast would probably be better for all.
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3 minutes ago, (PS4)Hopper_Orouk said:
Build is pretty straightforward
All 4 status mods and drifting contact for 100% status
Then add primed pressure point, primed fury for speed and damage
The last slot is for your preference
But i suggest you use viral and radiation as it is a good combination for any enemy type
Especially viral since it halves health which effectively means double damage
Isn't condition overload pretty much mandatory as well?
Might as well rename Bile to Ambergris with how precious it is.
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While bile is probably the most difficult helminth resource to build up, many of the resources needed aren't that difficult to get and which you'll accumulate over time.
My usual order of resources is argon if i have any, nav coordinates, voidgels, thermal sludge, morphics, ticor plate. Depends on the content you do more, and the stuff you have in hand of course.
Most of the other resources aren't worth the time cost to use as feed imo. And wait for a full green arrow to feed unless you're really desperate for bile or have argon expiring soon, that will ensure optimal use of your resources if you're having any shortages.