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    Audio Interview of DE_Reb about Live Service Games & Warframe, by Planet Money

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    21 minutes ago, quxier said:

    Some of that 90% players just see price for anything, they see all changes (e.g. massive nerfs to frames), they laugh and they continue to grind (till they can). Who is going to pay so much money for stuff that can change or is just "meh"?

    Makes sense

    I guess it makes sense with how F2P this game truly is… everything is obtainable through time and work, not money. 
    Aside from steam tennogen (specifically on PC) and regal aya

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    Audio Interview of DE_Reb about Live Service Games & Warframe, by Planet Money

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    16 minutes ago, TeaHands said:

    Reb talks for maybe 2 minutes worth of the podcast? Maybe less

    Reb has been behind a lot of the monetization options in the game. Getting players to pay for power made them mad, but were fine with cosmetic purchases. According to Reb about 10% of players are funding Warframe.

    She has spent over $1,000 in the game so far, does not use any sort of employee discount so she can get the "raw" experience.

    Game industry is looking to lean a lot more into Live Service type games and there's been some pushback from gamers, like with the new Suicide Squad.

    It was pretty short and had a long ad at the beginning lol.

    Not bad, not bad

    The typical business conversation, I like how she’s open about it. 
    Only 10% though? I wonder what the majority is…

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    Tennokai's window of opportunity

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    It’s already quite forgiving no? 
    I would suggest changing the window to be less random, more responsive to certain complex combos (with a hint of random so you don’t have to execute it)

    It’s annoying to constantly be hitting with combos and never getting the tennokai…

    One thing they definitely do need to add however, is innate Tennokai without it being locked behind a few mods

    I was wrong about Dagath, this feels weird

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    21 minutes ago, ReddyDisco said:

    The 3 is given so much flak but it's a crit damage buff and a big one too, can't think of any frame that gives a crit damage buff, crit chance is more plentiful on others.

    Agreed, except I uhhh helminthed her 3. Replaced it with Nourish for the energy, but I’m thinking of putting Citrine or Voruna helminth on there. 

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    I was wrong about Dagath, this feels weird

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    Posted · Edited by Aruquae

    The irony, avoiding Dagath because I thought it was simply a “press 4 to win” and that was all

    Then I avoided catalyzing shields simply because “shield gating bad” and decaying dragon key left a bad taste in my mouth (sorry, but that was supposed to handicap)

    But then I saw a post (coodles @Prof-Dante) that reminded me I uhhh never took Dagath out of the foundry. Realized she has a stinkin zenurik aura, so I finally put catalyzing shields and that aura mod who’s name I forgot… Good God this was the high risk frame I was looking for… so much stacks I can build off on (my favorite ramp up) for a satisfying nuke. And the shieldgate gives me survivability while complimenting my ability spamming playstyle. I can finally have a high risk high reward… usually it’s just one of those. 
    I just love the concept of stacking up/ramping up to nuke everything, along with being able to risk it all. It’s spicy
    Just posting this because… wow. I should’ve tried Dagath a long time ago.

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    DE's obsession with randomization feels more about monetization than "challenge" or anything else.

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    Gen and I just had an enlightening conversation about this

    It’s less so on challenge and moreso on difficulty 

    The randomized loadouts can serve as a challenge, but it isn’t difficult. 

    1 hour ago, ECCHOSIERRA said:

    A) you cant tell me the circuit's random loadouts are meant to provide challenge when decrees exist and even a mid weapon with enough decrees piled on top of it, is gonna be more "overpowered" than anything in the game outside of that mode. You can also get carried.

    It would be cool if we can use our own weapons, but they’re unmodded (and no incarnon). The way it would get stronger is the decrees, which will make your weapon stronger. Could even add niche decrees to fit in with less picked weapons. More decrees due to longer time spent, longer time spent increase enemy level. 
    Could even add corrupted augments or something… something that boosts a warframe’s power, but decreases there other power. An example could be increasing Baruuk’s damage, but reducing his DR. 
    Oh well, an idea

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    PC Dante Unbound: Hotfix 35.5.7

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    On 2024-04-17 at 4:00 PM, [DE]Megan said:

    Garuda’s Seeking Talons

    Does this mean that Garuda’s seeking talons are supposed to not go through walls? I thought that was their entire thing…? Where they go through walls so long as the enemy is within your LoS? 
     

    Oh well, it was fine while it lasted :’)

    What makes Dagath so forgettable to the community?

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    Posted · Edited by Aruquae

    Forgettable? Not really

    Just another glass cannon, can nuke the room, will die if you screw up

    I do actually see her quite a bit during missions. Her horses are hard to miss… now that I think of it that’s probably not saying much. 

    If you want a forgettable frame… huh I forgot the name. I think he was a sentient? 
    Oh yeaaaa, it was Revenant. Definitely Revenant 

    6 hours ago, Prof-Dante said:

    I get that from Qorvex because Qorvex kinda sucks to be honest, and not in the way that he's weak, just that he really is forgettable, all the hype went away and he's just another Warframe in my opinion.

    I will not take any Qorvex slander

    He is immortal with his concrete memes

    Edit: during, not dulling

    DE Please return Heirloom Mag and Frost Skins

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    8 hours ago, Voltage said:

    Reading the same moderator

    And who is that moderator exactly? 

     

    8 hours ago, Voltage said:

    I won't be surprised when Heirlooms and TennoCon cosmetics are next on the menu.

    Unfortunately… I believe you’re right… the only thing that’s probably holding them back is the creator themselves needing to agree. 

     

    8 hours ago, Voltage said:

    I've always been a massive supporter of both Founders, their risk, and how that same respect has been extended to future players. That is now sadly all gone. Good will a currency, and DE has cashed out now. Between Regal Aya, Supporter Packs, Prime Gaming, and even the small change in Gauss Prime Access language (to hint towards an exclusion that isn't actually any different than older Prime cosmetics), their actions have become hollow. I won't be surprised when Heirlooms and TennoCon cosmetics are next on the menu.

    Noticed this too, it seems to have ended when they released regal aya. At least, that’s where the major backlash started when it comes to pricing… then I remember it tumbling down with the heirlooms and Gauss Prime. 

     

    8 hours ago, Voltage said:

    With all that said, I do feel that discussing this topic and how it relates to Founders is very important.

    Precisely why I brought it up… context aside… they are both quite similar. You can even flip around my previous question into “If heirlooms were to return, what about Founders?” Everything that has been used for founders has been trying to be used for heirlooms. It’s one of those all or nothing occurrences. 

     

    8 hours ago, Voltage said:

    Warframe would have had a much stronger 10th year anniversary if they re-released the Founders package with a commitment to ending the predatory and deceptive usage of the word "exclusive" to sell items, and given everyone the permanent ability to purchase all the previously "exclusive" bundles (including Heirlooms) with the 10 year supporter badge being given to anyone who's bought anything for real money from the game ever (which is a stat I know they track by the way). 

    This would seem like the case right? But to quote someone (I wish I knew who said it) “It’s almost as if they were trying to make another founder’s pack.” What was the founders pack when it released? A cash grab, DE using it to make some quick money. Yes, they needed the quick money then unlike now, but they can both be considered short term investments. 

     

    8 hours ago, Voltage said:

    I'd like to stop this charade of "respecting" Founders with the current way customers are treated with the modern monetization of the game. Founders are not the people keeping the game going, it's the players like you and me who make purchases right now.

    Indeed, they might’ve given DE a starting loan (ok, not a loan, but you know what I mean), but that doesn’t mean they did everything. Warframe wouldn’t have survived if only the “founders” kept on playing. The reason it survived is because the player base kept growing. Not to mention, a majority of founders have quit, so clearly they aren’t helping the game. 

     

    9 hours ago, Voltage said:

    I much rather benefit the rest of the playerbase and upset a couple Founders, because DE has quite literally done it with no problem to everybody else.

    The funny thing is, I’ve seen quite a bit of people with the founder’s pack stating they’re fine with it. Some will complain, yes, but it’s not like those who buy it wouldn’t be spending the same amount of money on it…? The only difference is the time. Yes, there are people who only want it for the rare (I’m guilty of liking rare shiny), but if it does happen like you proposed… it wouldn’t be considered rare anymore. It’ll slowly dwindle into an optional purchase that doesn’t hold much wait besides “Exclusive Excalibur with some gold.” Once something is out for a while, initial sales will obviously decrease due to no FOMO, but the average sales would obviously increase. How? Quite simple… you’re making money from a product you haven’t made money with in 10 years… 

     

    9 hours ago, Voltage said:

    DE is not respecting Founders as players just because they only respect the Founders program. Founders are just another player at the end of the day, and their treatment has become equal to everyone around them

    If some Founder’s truly cry about this proposal… then at most DE can give them all some special “tag” (kind of like the 10 year support tag on your account) showing you were there in the beginning. It does absolutely nothing… it’s just a “flex,” if you ever want to brag. Just… please don’t brag founders… it’s quite annoying. 

    DE Please return Heirloom Mag and Frost Skins

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    Posted · Edited by Aruquae

    8 hours ago, Voltage said:

    We're all losing as a collective whole though.

    Specifically why I brought up winning the round

    You may have one the battle, but not the war

    And the war isn’t with random people on forums… it’s against DE’s sketchy monetization strat


    …Why on earth did strat get capitalized? 
    Edit: Why did it also capitalize “may?”

    players complaning about randomized loadouts for deep archamidea

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    4 minutes ago, (PSN)GEN-Son_17 said:

    It is a challenge...but it is not necessarily difficult (for some of us, at least). I think  this is where most of the discussions get a little mixed up, IMO. Challenge and difficulty are not the same, particularly difficulty because it's subjective and dynamic. The challenge is simply "can you do this with just this and that?". I would say EDM vs DM would be a better discussion on difficulty. 

    AH YES
    YOU'RE RIGHT
    I'm talking about wanting difficulty... not challenge.. and your argument was about challenge, not difficulty... whereas mine was simply confusing the two

    Yep, I see what you mean now. From a "challenge" perspective, it's living up to it

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    players complaning about randomized loadouts for deep archamidea

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    35 minutes ago, (PSN)GEN-Son_17 said:

    This is the only complaint I really dislike. A video game offering a type of game mode that asks you to use what we claim we have mastered is perfectly acceptable and is a standard type of challenge since video games began. Just because you don't like it does not mean it's stupid or a "poor excuse". What's even worse is that the complaints are based on a 100% optional method to claiming the rewards. Why wouldn't the most challenging situation also be the most rewarding? I don't get the complaints about this.

    Hmmm, this is true my post was more so venting from Duviri, rather than the newest game mode. I’m glad you can still get the main rewards. 
    I guess, building off of my poor claim… how is random considered challenging? That’s what I truly dislike about it. Random is not challenging… 

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    DE Please return Heirloom Mag and Frost Skins

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    25 minutes ago, PublikDomain said:

    I mean yeah, Supporter packs have always been exclusive, time-gated, cash-only offerings. And DE just put three of them on the market permanently back in March.

    Until then they had never returned, ever. They were exclusive and available for a limited time and you had to get them before they were gone.

    There are also for example the Avia Prime armor set and other Twitch Prime/Prime Gaming cosmetics which were

    Some were even "exclusive":

    Twitch Prime/Amazon Prime being paid-for (third party) services. And now anyone can buy them from Varzia at any time. So they're not exclusive anymore. I would imagine the most recent Verv set of cosmetics will go the same way despite being just as exclusive to Prime Gaming members:

    Etc.

    Supporter packs weren't worded to ever return either. They were marketed as "exclusive". Can they really be exclusive if they would later become permanent market additions (for plat no less)? If they were exclusive to cash-only buyers who bought during the original promotion then that exclusivity has certainly changed. And why do the ads say to get them "before they’re gone" if they're just gonna come back later? You'd think if they were going to return in the future, then yes like you say they would've worded it that way. But they didn't, not for Supporter packs which returned anyways nor for Heirlooms. They marked them the same as all of the other exclusives that have inevitably returned anyways.

    This is true

    Well played, you've won this round

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    DE Please return Heirloom Mag and Frost Skins

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    1 hour ago, PublikDomain said:

    Devil's Advocate has to contend with the fact that "exclusives" often aren't actually all that exclusive.

    You proposed a counter claim... yes. This makes sense... but... is there any other time gated option which costs money that ended up returning? Eugh, that sentence sounded janky

     

    1 hour ago, PublikDomain said:

    The only particular difference with Heirlooms is that DE had an additional FAQ where they spelled that exclusivity out.

    And that would be considered the prime difference in the Heirlooms and the Deimos support pack, and the prime similarity between that and the Founders' pack. They never specified whether the Deimos pack was going to return, nor did they specify whether it was exclusive or not (or time limited). They specifically did this with the Heirlooms, when they could've easily thrown in the same strat they did with the support packs... it seems a bit odd. You would think if they wanted it to return in the future, they would've worded it like with the support packs. (Which is to say, not outright saying they're exclusive) 

     

    1 hour ago, (PSN)slightconfuzzled said:

    That is odd. I am not sure what the reason could be. I did experience something slightly similar a few weeks ago, where I did get notifications, but they were for comments that I had already been notified for weeks prior. I'll try and tag your name at the end manually to alert you, just in case that helps. 

    Good thing you tagged, I never would've got the notification otherwise. These forums are trying to beat the game when it comes to bugs

     

    1 hour ago, (PSN)slightconfuzzled said:

    Hah, I was a little bit salty, but only in the sense, I felt the changes were too soon, or should have been implemented before release. A lot of people didn't even get a chance to play Dante pre-nerf, and you could argue, even if the changes were necessarily or even if they hypothetically buffed him again, a lot of people will feel a bit bitter because they never got to experience the Warframe when they were "OP". I also felt like he was fun, and a bit less fun. Still ultimately fun, and effective, but ehh... 

    True, I also feel like the mindset of "It's nerfed, must be bad" also came to play. One reason because he was nerfed in less than a week, so not everyone had him. My guess is half the people who were complaining about the nerfs didn't have him, I'm just guessing from their reasoning... Of course, this is just a speculation. I just feel like there were too many people complaining about a frame that just came out... especially when realizing they would have started crafting him on day one. 

     

    1 hour ago, (PSN)slightconfuzzled said:

    I agree that dealing with real money and cosmetics would be inherently more tricky, but still worth it, depending on the context. Like I haven't seen too many people try to argue seriously about some of the console exclusive skins. Seen a few questions, but I think most people know, that sort of thing is out of DE's hand. 

    Maybe some day the companies will put aside their differences... and finally let me use the stinkin Ivara Obsidian skin... I can dream...

     

    1 hour ago, (PSN)slightconfuzzled said:

    Thanks. You didn't come across as argumentative either, but I am also pretty familiar of how you post, and your sense of humour, which I enjoy and appreciate, and I have a pretty high opinion of you. This topic actually tends to attract a few different people who I have a pretty high opinion of generally, and I think its to do with what you mention actually, as far as passion ha. 

    Oh thank goodness, this is nice to here

     

    1 hour ago, (PSN)slightconfuzzled said:

    What I know of empathy and behaviour, is that people are often more willing to engage with it, if they see it demonstrated often, so I find its really important in forums, that its not just people disagreeing with each other harshly or being passive aggressive or arguing in bad faith. Having some well intentioned constructive conversations can have a positive influence on the flow of a thread, especially around tense subjects, so I like to think we both did a decent enough job in that regard. Sure beats seeing a thread get locked due to hostility. 

    Completely agree. Now you're leaving me slightly confuzzled with how this conversation went, wasn't expecting it to turn out like an actual argument. Oh well, a good read nonetheless, even if I don't completely agree with some of your reasonings

    And because people are going to be wondering what I mean about that, i'm saying that because there is a difference between arguing, and yelling your opinion with your finger in your ear. I just made someone mad, didn't I?

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