Ace4225
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Just now, Ace4225 said:
(except on my max dur build so I can get 18 stars)
if you haven't tried a 304% duration build in the Plains yet, I recommend it. :) Not only do you get actually good damage reduction, m-Prime and watch the tusks drop from the dropships already primed. xD
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1 minute ago, Datam4ss said:
If you get shot at, jump and duck. If you are slashed procced as the Nova cast Null Star. Use Antimatter Absorb as both a shield and Attack. I suppose you are the sort that refuse to run Fleeting Expertise.
uhh.... Null Star reduces damage but doesn't cancel status procs. O but I ALWAYS run Fleeting ;) (except on my max dur build so I can get 18 stars)
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23 minutes ago, Datam4ss said:
Look, if you say you are a Nova Main and you are not using Antimatter Absorb on your Speedva ... you are not a Nova Main. There is enough empty slot for that mod, and it does great in soaking up all the SPED UP enemy attacks and then blowing up the enemy with it.
If I use my Speedva, I don't even need a Nuker Frame anymore. If I push to wave 20, I will outdo the Saryn in DPS via Antimatter drop. I don't go down as a Speedva regularly unless I am using something like the Lenz.
In all my time playing Speedva, even the days with no Banshee or Saryn, I have not seen anyone needing Rez. Even if I did meet one, I just blow away the wave with AMD and then Rez in peace. If you can't handle the pressure of speed, at least don't handicap others who can.
Please, while I have not imagined myself saying this ... git gud. You need to play Nova very selfishly in order to help your team, such as nuking the whole wave. You cannot depend on them at all. That's how to keep everyone alive. Because the safest enemy is a dead one. Speedva bunches up enemies as well, AMD to the Cryopod/chokepoint does wonders. Also, positioning it is key, planting it on walls and such to hit enemies across it.
If AMD can one shot enemies even on Sortie with a good charging gun, how hard is it on Hydron?
TL;DR use AMD.
I do. Most other Nova players I encounter do not.
I don't use Speedva because I generally kill everything just as quickly with Slova. I could use Speedva, but for me, what's the point?
Other Speedvas get people killed all the time.
Look, the reason I made this thread is because I've tolerated Speedva for a long time, but I wish I didn't have to. When I do get in arguments with Speedva players, I always get BS reasons for why they like Speedva....
"She generates energy for Banshee" ...umm what?
"She makes it easier to share XP" ...except if we're talking Hydron the only places outside affinity range are the SPAWN ZONES.
"She makes the waves go faster" ... and yet, when I run Slova, waves go just as fast as when others run their Speedvas (maybe with 2-4 seconds difference.) simply bc I know how to use AMD.
But I see people die a lot. Occasionally, I've died too (usually only when leveling a frame on Hydron.. which I actively try to avoid these days) always.. ALWAYS.. the reason is Speedva. Speed-prime makes the enemies shoot faster, next thing I know, I'm getting slash-procced like crazy and half the team is dead.
I made this post because I'm tired of tolerating it and I was hoping there'd be some actual discussion on what could be done to help Nova work better for everyone... but it just turned into a **@##$ at Ace because he wants DE to nerf my favorite thing* thread instead... -
@Kayll might think it's a sin, but I still go to Hydron to level amps now. Cuz leveling amps isn't fun. (at least gilding them is)
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Just now, Darkuhn said:
don't revive them then?
I don't XD
Though these days when I do go to Hydron, I usually try to bring my Equinox. That way I can just troll them back. -
5 minutes ago, Darkuhn said:
Alter your play style when you realize the Team cant handle it.
Or if a other Speedva is killing the team, ask them to stop using their 4th.
- I don't use speed-nova any more for this very reason.
- I have asked. Every time. It doesn't mean they'll listen. 9 times out of 10 they think I'm joking and cast m-prime more frequently, while the team continues to go down. Then they mockingly ask if they're noobs (or hump their teammates bodies instead of reviving) It's particularly funny when the speedva frequently goes down too. -
1 minute ago, Darkuhn said:
Speed Nova isn't a good Build to bring to Public Matches, as you rarely encounter prepared teams.
This. Was the entire point. Of my post.
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1 minute ago, Kayll said:
OP's Ember can longer handle the speedva bonus while completely afk, so sadly we must now nerf the Nova.
If you actually read my post on Ember...
Ember used to be one of my favorite frames. She hasn't been since she became *too easy to AFK with.*
I made a rather extensive rework suggestion post suggesting changes that would make Ember a much more active role.
Do actual research before you accuse someone of something. -
2 minutes ago, trndr said:
Didnt you read my entire post, or did you just find it coviniant to ignore how nova would be beyond OP for bounties?
I did read your post. It was just too full of logical fallacies to respond to.
2 minutes ago, trndr said:PS we dont think you're trolling we think you are a standard forum crusader, who hasnt plaied the game, makes up things
I've played the game heavily since closed beta and am currently MR 24.
Makes up things? I understand how mechanics work and can make/break gameplay. I've played shooters competitively. -
1 minute ago, steelblueskies said:
you hate hydron because some players in some public matches run a buld that gets some players who aren't prepared killed in a map you hate but are in anyway. yet you don't see anything illogical in that argumentation.
The logic here is simple. I don't know why you spent so much time writing this pointless rebuttal -- I don't hate the MAP.
I hate the way players operate on the map because it gets people who are there for the map/game mode's intended purpose killed.
Did I spell it out clearly enough this time? If it gets everybody killed every time, then that's not a preparation issue. It's a power mechanic issue. -
1 minute ago, --Q--Nyu said:
YOUR preference is NOT the way the frame should be played for everybody.
My.. preference... for the developer-intended use of the power... that actually works and helps everybody?
Over 1 alternative method for 1 power....
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2 minutes ago, Kayll said:
its like trying to bring down people above you because you can't keep up, ridiculous.
I've played shooters competitively. A bit different from Warframe, but I've always looked at this game from the same perspective. Competitive play = safest build is best.
Can't keep up? Bruh, I take orange stats every game because no one else tries. -
[ General quote of comments about Speedva bringing enemies to center quicker ]
If y'all are too lazy to actually go after enemies, what the hell are you playing shooters for? -
2 minutes ago, Soldier1312 said:
I'm sorry, but birdie can now kill, as well as Hydroid with augment. Just had to point it out, sorry!
Yes. Gotta love Zephyr's rework. She's had a good treatment.
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1 minute ago, Kayll said:
Its not any different from a Rhino that wont stop stomping, making you run around and find every floating enemy in their spawns.
Or a Zephyr casting Tornado and doing no damage with it, just making it harder to kill enemies, Hydroid Undertow? Nezha Spears?
There is no threads to remove any of those.Except none of those powers make the enemies stronger in the process. Nor are their mechanics the result of a bug that was never removed. People haven't even addressed my actual suggested change. I'm just saddened by the responses to this post (though I figured I'd have to defend it)
This is exactly what I meant by Nova being toxified -- no one can agree on how she should be played. And the INTENDED MECHANIC for her power is actually unwanted? This is exactly why I started this thread. -
7 minutes ago, steelblueskies said:
but yeah, beyond that a quick review says op is in fact overpresent in hydron, as noted by one of their last comments in another thread on their 15 minute afk ember build for the node.
- umm, why does this matter to the discussion? Doesn't mean I'm wrong.
- I was using that to make a point in a different thread. I've only actually done that a handful of times.
- If you must get a backstory on me..... I actually hate Hydron (mostly for the reason stated in this post) and usually take to leveling my gear in Spy missions. (where I can solo and still get good XP without having to deal with pub-scrubs.) -
Just now, Soldier1312 said:
Also damage multiplier from M Prime is not affected by strength
No. But A Drop is.
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Just now, Kayll said:
if they can't stay alive maybe ask the Nova to stop?
And I'll pray to RNJesus that they listen. :D
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Just now, trndr said:
If players die due to speed nova, it's due to not having any usefull equiptment, and they would have died anyway.
I've literally seen my health drop significantly faster by sped-up enemies. It's how the mechanic works. YOU SPEED UP ENEMIES THEY KILL YOU QUICKER. I can't believe people think I'm trolling. The dumb is real.
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1 minute ago, Ace4225 said:
Slowva + Ember = clears the first 5 Hydron waves in 10 seconds or less each. Don't believe me? try it.
at least 130% str on Nova, max range and as much str as possible for Ember. Even should work post-Ember change.
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2 minutes ago, --Q--Nyu said:
A slowva is horrendous for defense.
Slowva + Ember = clears the first 5 Hydron waves in 10 seconds or less each. Don't believe me? try it.
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Just now, --Q--Nyu said:
You NEVER specified what you meant, this is more your fault than mine. Stop trolling.
- I am not trolling. I am dead serious. I am sick of one of my favorite frames being used to troll and get teams killed. I wish I had recordings to prove it (maybe I'll start if that's what it takes)
- I didn't realize I had to spell out every little detail in every single one of my comments. Don't you play this game too? -
2 minutes ago, --Q--Nyu said:
2 hours? Okay, create a new account, record a video of you doing 90% of the characters in 2 hours. I will wait.
I meant less than 2 hours per character. Again, use some common sense.
An old mechanic (well, bug) that's outlived its usefulness and is killing my favorite frame (Nova)
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