St0l3n_ID Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) Hey there guys :) Our clan is really confused about how the leaderboards seem to work for the current event (survival). And here is the reason why: The leaderboard rarly updates, and if it does the amount of minutes seems fairly random, in addition to that we have two different times displayed on different places of the profile. The "Clan" sections shows our highest ranking group/player, while the "Clan Leaderboard" shows an minute count that does not seem to have any obvious formula behind it. Is it bugged at the moment or does it take an average? Which one of the values is to be trustet? As we are kinda competitive about events we would appreciate any input for that :) Here some screenshots showing the different times on different places (taken ~5 seconds apart) http://i.imgur.com/yH4Mf92.jpg http://i.imgur.com/bF5JmBJ.jpg Greetings Stolen Edited August 31, 2013 by St0l3n_ID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KONAir Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Clan Leaderboard: Sum Of All Clanners Total Time / Number Of Clanners Played Clan Information only shows the best time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Narauko- Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) then its not updating correctly. Ours went from 22mins (which was a our first run) to 30mins...our second run was 42mins... Edited August 31, 2013 by narauk1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storchenbein Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 They take the average time out of all participating players of your clan. Let's say player A got 20 minutes and Player B got 30 minutes and they would be the only people participating, your leaderboard rank would have 25 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Narauko- Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 so a clan of 4 that run it for longest will do far better at achieving top 10 over a 200 man clan :s Time to start my own 4 man clan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengu_Bruxo Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Hey there guys :) Our clan is really confused about how the leaderboards seem to work for the current event (survival). And here is the reason why: The leaderboard rarly updates, and if it does the amount of minutes seems fairly random, in addition to that we have two different times displayed on different places of the profile. The "Clan" sections shows our highest ranking group/player, while the "Clan Leaderboard" shows an minute count that does not seem to have any obvious formula behind it. Is it bugged at the moment or does it take an average? Which one of the values is to be trustet? As we are kinda competitive about events we would appreciate any input for that :) Here some screenshots showing the different times on different places (taken ~5 seconds apart) http://i.imgur.com/yH4Mf92.jpg http://i.imgur.com/bF5JmBJ.jpg Greetings Stolen I'm also a member of this clan (I was apart of the run listed above) DE please detail this so we can better understand how to proceed with the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St0l3n_ID Posted August 31, 2013 Author Share Posted August 31, 2013 ^This is not true, as there are different tiers for those. However if its true, DE is boosting small clans that way, there would be no fair competition inbetween the clans possible... A 11 player big clan would be easily outrank a 30 player clan by just having 11 people play. Its a lot harder for 30 people to reach the same time, but both are counted into shadow size. The same basicly goes for the next clan tier where it is even more disturbing if it comes to average. The only fair way to do this, is to take the best players time and apply it to the clan, in every other scenario small clans have the advantage :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenno73815 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Yep not updating correclty,so confusing hmm O_o. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMissingCake Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 So if this is true then this means that a clan can have 1 person play out of their entire clan with a time of 1hr, but a clan with more active players has no chance of beating that one person even if everyone except for a single player in the second clan gets a score of 1hr for the event, this seems very unbalanced if you have a fairly active clan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatantfool Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 It is an averages system. If every single member of your clan had exactly 1 hour as their best time then your clan score is 1 hour. Players who don't participate at all have an best time of 0 - I believe they actually drag your score down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madotsuki Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 It is an averages system. If every single member of your clan had exactly 1 hour as their best time then your clan score is 1 hour. Players who don't participate at all have an best time of 0 - I believe they actually drag your score down. Nah i'm pretty sure it doesn't take into account players who don't participate at all, otherwise my clan's scores would be much lower than what it is right now, lol. I agree with St0l3n, the only fair way of doing this event's clan leaderboards would be to use its best time achieved instead of any kind of average, otherwise it'd be biased towards small clans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St0l3n_ID Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 Cant really say anymore then i did already, if you look at the current leaderboards its completly unkown clans, that have like one good run, and i guess the problem is even bigger for higher differences like moon clans. I hope DE rethinks this early next week, because its not fair at all :/ Anyway thx for all the replies guys :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IggyDaDino Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 it really doesn't look like an average bu if it is that is ridiculously unfair and not fun on s variety of levels it has to be best time for a four man group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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