BDT_Flames Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) Surv/Exc on 5 min. give reward is perfect and get new arcanesOnly Exc only Infest with Khora -Zenistar-Smeta 1h good drop Surv-Inaros-Zaw-Adarza 1h,30 min give 6+ drop 😄 but i see Endo is nerf give 1500 http://prikachi.com/images.php?images/715/9652715A.png http://prikachi.com/images.php?images/797/9652797W.png Edited September 19, 2019 by BDT_Flames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellmaker2004 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 The 10,950 Endo Plus the value of each Sculpture is above the average you in theory should have gotten and above the amount of Endo you would have accumulated before this update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biotic_Prototype_6 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) I think that arbis are way worse than before, actually i might do even less arbis now. Before this update they were really good to farm endo, and we need an gargantuan amount of endo to feed our primed mods. But now with the new rewards you can barely get any endo at all. They should move all these new rewards elsewhere, it got really troublesome already when we had an ephemera on the reward pool that we couldn't even trade and they sat uselessly on your inventory when you would rather had more ayatans. We can barely get anything else uself with the Vitus Essence too once we get the emote and other pricey stuff. Edited September 19, 2019 by Biotic_Prototype_6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velothed Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 10 hours ago, Biotic_Prototype_6 said: I think that arbis are way worse than before, actually i might do even less arbis now. Before this update they were really good to farm endo, and we need an gargantuan amount of endo to feed our primed mods. But now with the new rewards you can barely get any endo at all. They should move all these new rewards elsewhere, it got really troublesome already when we had an ephemera on the reward pool that we couldn't even trade and they sat uselessly on your inventory when you would rather had more ayatans. We can barely get anything else uself with the Vitus Essence too once we get the emote and other pricey stuff. 2 hours ago, Vethalon said: First, the Old vs the New droprates: Reveal hidden contents Rotation A 1300 Endo (36.50%) > 900 Endo (40%) Ayatan Valana Sculpture (18.00%) > (9%) Ayatan Sah Sculpture (18.00%) > (9%) Ayatan Ayr Sculpture (18.00%) > (9%) Sharpshooter (2.00%) > (0%) ??? Vigorous Swap (2.00%) Rolling Guard (2.00%) Adaptation (2.00%) Aura Forma Blueprint (1.50%) > (1%) new drops 3X Vitus Essence > (7%) Arcane Bodyguard > (5%) Arcane Pistoleer > (5%) Arcane Tanker > (5%) Aerodynamic > (2%) Combat Discipline > (2%) Rotation B 1600 Endo (48.00%) > 1200 Endo (39.5%) Ayatan Vaya Sculpture (20.00%) > (12%) Ayatan Piv Sculpture (20.00%) > (12%) Sharpshooter (2.50%) > (0%) ??? Vigorous Swap (2.50%) Rolling Guard (2.50%) Adaptation (2.50%) Aura Forma Blueprint (2.00%) new drops 3X Vitus Essence > (7%) Arcane Blade Charger > (5%) Arcane Bodyguard > (5%) Arcane Primary Charger > (5%) Combat Discipline > (2.50%) Shepherd > (2.50%) Rotation C 2000 Endo (47.50%) > 1500 Endo (29.5%) Ayatan Orta Sculpture (29.00%) > (20%) Sharpshooter (3.50%) > (0%) ??? Vigorous Swap (3.50%) > (0%) Rolling Guard (3.50%) Adaptation (3.50%) > (0%) Seeding Step Ephemera Blueprint (5.00%) Aura Forma Blueprint (4.50%) new drops 3X Vitus Essence > (7%) Arcane Blade Charger > (5%) Arcane Pistoleer > (5%) Arcane Primary Charger > (5%) Arcane Tanker > (5%) Combat Discipline > (4.5%) Melee Guidance > (4.5%) Swift Momentum > (4.5%) Calculation: Reveal hidden contents Endo: Old: A: 1300 × 0.365 = 474.5 Average Endo per rotation B: 1600 x 0.48 = 768 Average Endo per rotation 😄 2000 x 0.475 = 950 Average Endo per rotation New: A: 900 x 0.4 x 2 = 720 Average Endo per 2 rotations B: 1200 x 0.395 x 2 = 948 Average Endo per 2 rotations 😄 1500 × 0.295 × 2 = 885 Average Endo per 2 rotations Ayatan: Old: A: 0.18 + 0.18 + 0.18 = 0.54 Chance for 1 Ayaan Statue per rotation B: 0.2 + 0.2 = 0.4 Chance for 1 Ayaan Statue per rotation 😄 0.29 = 0.29 Chance for 1 Ayaan Statue per rotation New: A: 0.09 + 0.09 + 0.09 x 2 = 0.54 Chance for 1 Ayaan Statue per 2 rotations B: 0.12 + 0.12 x 2 = 0.44 Chance for 1 Ayaan Statue per 2 rotations 😄 0.2 x 2 = 0.4 Chance for 1 Ayaan Statue per 2 rotations You might notice, that we now get more endo from A and B rotations than before (on average) and less from C rotations, but not so fast! Ayatan statues become more common in B rotation and a lot more in C rotations. Now to combine those findings. If we never fuse any stars to our Ayatans and trade them in for end as they are, we get the following average amounts of end for 1 old C rotation VS 2 new C rotations: Old: 950 + (0.29 x 650) = 1138.5 Average Endo per C rotation New: 885 + (0.4 x 650) = 1145 Average Endo per 2 C rotations As you can see we get a lot more Endo in A and B rotations and a bit more in C rotations. So calm your horses everyone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossLevel9000 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Some of you guys have to remember that we have to farm those ayatan stars in order to get more endo. Currently have 10 ortas that need ayatan stars,and yes u can craft amber stars but then again u have to use 2 cyan stars to do so. And this is why arbies give u additional hours,since u have to farm those ayatan stars which is not easy since u have to open alot of lockers and break a lot of containers. If someone is about to say that i dont have to farm them,and that i get them from playing the game a lot?Well,i dont have infinite time to play the game,and the mayortiy of missions i play do not drop a lot of stars. At the moment i do prefer to play arena again for the endo,and kuva survival/flood for the kuva. Players that played the game before arbitration came out have most likely a lot of ayatan stars,since the ayatan sculptures been very rare at that time. But also they dont really need any endo since most of their mods are maxed out if not all,which means they use the mayority of endo to maximize mods,and then sell them for platinum. Im sadly not one of them since before arbies came out i didnt saved my ayatan stars,since i really needed endo to progress so i had to sell the ayatan stars to maroo. What i want to say with all this is...,that currently no one really benefits from arbitration nor the new player nor the veteran players,since the veterans have already unlocked all of the content of the game. My suggestion to improve arbitration is to limit some of the stuff to specific gamemods,for example lets make this gamemode have more endo and the others have more arcanes,mods,vitus essence and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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