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Planetary resource extractor drop probabilities seem off.


(PSN)gbravery1972

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I've been running the Distilling Extractor Prime on Zariman, Deimos and Saturn for quite a while - and the drops never match my expectations of randomness.
However, that was subjective - I've never logged them to try to confirm things, but it always felt like I obtained far more Voidgel Orb, Mutagen Samples and Detonite Ampules.

I decided about a week ago to track what I was seeing, which is in this table:

Date Zariman Deimos Saturn
03/10/2022 12xVoidgel Orb 8xOrokin Cell 12xDetonite Ampule
03/10/2022 12xVoidgel Orb 12xMutagen Sample 12xDetonite Ampule
04/10/2022 1502xFerrite 12xMutagen Sample 2916xNano Spores
04/10/2022 1502xFerrite 12xMutagen Sample 2916xNano Spores
05/10/2022 2358xAlloy Plate 12xMutagen Sample 2882xNano Spores
05/10/2022 1186xFerrite 12xMutagen Sample 12xDetonite Ampule
06/10/2022 810xFerrite 12xMutagen Sample 12xDetonite Ampule
06/10/2022 12xVoidgel Orb 12xMutagen Sample 2692xNano Spores
07/10/2022 12xVoidgel Orb 2812xNano Spores 12xDetonite Ampule
07/10/2022 12xVoidgel Orb 12xMutagen Sample 12xDetonite Ampule
08/10/2022 12xVoidgel Orb 12xMutagen Sample 12xDetonite Ampule
08/10/2022 12xVoidgel Orb 12xMutagen Sample 12xDetonite Ampule
09/10/2022 12xVoidgel Orb 12xMutagen Sample 2946xNano Spores
09/10/2022 2088xAlloy Plate 8xOrokin Cell 12xDetonite Ampule
10/10/2022 12xVoidgel Orb 2438xNano Spores 12xDetonite Ampule
10/10/2022 12xVoidgel Orb 12xMutagen Sample 12xDetonite Ampule

Obviously, this is a small sample period (16 collections), but currently the data does seem to show a weird skew.

Planet 1 2 3 4 Total Excavations Type 1 Type 2 Type 3 Type 4
Zariman 4 2 10 0 16 25% 13% 63% 0%
Deimos 2 12 2 0 16 13% 75% 13% 0%
Saturn 5 0 0 11 16 31% 0% 0% 69%

63% of my Zariman drops appear to be Voidgel Orbs
75% of my Deimos drops appear to be Mutagen Samples
69% of my Saturn drops appear to be Detonite Ampules

Of these, Deimos looks most accurate, with a skew towards the type 2 I'd expect.
Saturn looks the most incorrect, although the Zariman also doesn't look right.

FWIW, some of this is based on "Resource Rarity Rates" listed here:
https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Extractor
With the common, uncommon, rare distribution based on this:
https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Resources#Resources_By_Planet

As such, I'm not sure if this is a bug - or something else (misunderstanding the drop categories and probabilities).
I see a lot of "rarest" resources (Detonite, Mutagen and Voidgel) and what I'd expect (e.g. Orokin Cells, Neurodes, Plastids) aren't listed as rare seem to have a lower scarcity than "rare" - which doesn't make sense.
Either way, I thought I would try logging a ticket to see what was going on!

Thanks in advance.

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  • 4 weeks later...

So having run this for a while now, I don’t think this is a “bug”, it’s more related to what is rare and what isn’t, and how it is documented.

Planet 1 2 3 4 Total Excavations Type 1 Type 2 Type 3 Type 4
Zariman 11 13 40 2 66 17% 20% 61% 3%
Deimos 11 49 4 2 66 17% 74% 6% 3%
Saturn 9 9 1 46 65 14% 14% 2% 71%

It looks like the Research Resources override the Uncommon Resource rates benefit of the Distilling Extractor Prime.
Or maybe these are mis-documented on the Fandom Wiki.

Either way, I suspect I need to take my empirical data there!


 

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