Whibble Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I'm not one of the people who hates Update 7, or cares about losing some Closed Beta mods. It's closed Beta, losing your precious items matters little, if at all. But what I don't really like, is how the update was handled. We were given no prior release date to try and prepare, there is no announcement on the main forum page, we STILL don't have any explanation to most of the new ingame systems other than the new mods, and DE has had substandard communication since the launch of the update. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying DE is a bad company (I think I'd probably be lynched), but the way they handled this update could have improved drastically. DE, I love you guys and your update, but when you launch the update, you need to communicate with us. Even the occasional twitter response, telling us what's going on would work, but there has been very little. I still have no idea how Endless Defense works, what the hell a Dojo is, where the DBT gun is, whether or not they consider mod prices to be fixed yet or not, what a Sentinel is (other than a pet), etc. Please, DE, if you're going to give us an update with so many major changes, at least write up forum posts explaining most of the major changes. PS, the main post even says "check out the forums for additional details," none of which exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FedorHooch Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 From what I gathered, DE have been a little bit too optimistic with release dates and were forced to work overtime and weekends to make the deadline (as unspecified things were already financed). So it's understandable, really, that they were too busy to adress the community and Steve already apologised for not doing so beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyne Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I would take a late launch date anyday over a rushed one. DE_Steve has done his best trying to communicate his feels to us and he knows that they're in the wrong. That's something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstToLast Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Best thing to do right now is to leave and check back next week. I think crisis is an apt description of the situation. The mechanics overhaul was not only sudden, but left the now limp and writhing body without a spine, even if it was slightly malformed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strac_CRO Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 (edited) From what I gathered, DE have been a little bit too optimistic with release dates and were forced to work overtime and weekends to make the deadline (as unspecified things were already financed). So it's understandable, really, that they were too busy to adress the community and Steve already apologised for not doing so beforehand. I bet it's nVidia's fault and "the way it's meant to be played" money edit: PAX EAST and all that stuff Edited March 19, 2013 by Strac_CRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whibble Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 From what I gathered, DE have been a little bit too optimistic with release dates and were forced to work overtime and weekends to make the deadline (as unspecified things were already financed). So it's understandable, really, that they were too busy to adress the community and Steve already apologised for not doing so beforehand. If this is true, then it's somewhat understandable. But I still think the situation could have been handled a bit better. It just doesn't seem like that huge of a task to update the front page of the website, or to make a release date announcement prior to the update, so we're not completely blindsided. Or to explain the systems you just implemented a little further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheldog Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I personally couldn't be happier with this update. There has been ample information, through the Q&A and (leaked) information from the Design Council, for people who pay attention to be able to understand what is going on with this update. I was initially confused when I got in game, but after a couple hours of solid playing around and figuring stuff out on my own, I was able to get a firm grasp on how the majority of the new mechanics work. The new mod system is fantastic and I absolutely love Endless Defense missions. If you need anything particular explained in detail, I'd be happy to help you understand some of the more confusing aspects of the patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whibble Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 (edited) While I do heavily appreciate the offer to explain the systems (I still have no idea what the hell a Dojo is, if you can help with that), it shouldn't be up to the players to explain the company's game systems, updates, and changes. I guess what I'm saying is while Update 7 is really delicious, the complete lack of structure and professional implementation sort of scares me. Especially since the game just went into open Beta, and the new players are coming to the forums, hoping for more explanations than exist so far. I don't want people scared away from my main game, and I had trusted DE to make sure that probably wouldn't happen. Though I don't mean to be a complete "negative Nancy." The update was really good, and despite the lack of information posted by the DE staff, the systems are still managable to figure out. Edited March 19, 2013 by Whibble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXCrusnik Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 If this is true, then it's somewhat understandable. But I still think the situation could have been handled a bit better. It just doesn't seem like that huge of a task to update the front page of the website, or to make a release date announcement prior to the update, so we're not completely blindsided. Or to explain the systems you just implemented a little further. I agree.. communication is lacking right now. Still waiting on weapon and warframe tweak information, I also don't know who what where or when the Dojo is, and U7 thread never got updated after the several hotfixes through the day.Steve posted some hotfix details in the Global/Council chat while I was there, but the forums would be a much better place for this information. Hopefully these things will change later today or soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheldog Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 The Dojo is the place you go when you rank up your profile to complete the challenge to move up to the next rank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whibble Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 Ahhh, that makes sense. Thank you, Chel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabooes Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 where do you find an endless defense mission because I havent found any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whibble Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 I think the old defense missions are now endless defense, and you can just choose to end them or continue getting rewards I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheldog Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I think the old defense missions are now endless defense, and you can just choose to end them or continue getting rewards I think. As far as I know, this is correct. I've only done Kiliken on Venus since the patch, but it is endless. Ahhh, that makes sense. Thank you, Chel. No problem. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabooes Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 As far as I know, this is correct. I've only done Kiliken on Venus since the patch, but it is endless. No problem. :) Awesome!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyfe3rX Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Yup..DE some what abandoned us Q.Q Well since there was some unforseen stuff happend and they hadto work on weekend...pretty much they had some bumbs while releasing u7 Personally i hope they will start to talk to us like they did during cbt I love DE guy anyway cause they listen to the community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArchAngel Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 For me, I figured out the mod system after messing with it awhile... Endless defence mission wasn't too hard to figure out... Sentinals are nifty especially the guardian mod.... The grineer rollers(Grinders,Nervos and latchers) are still in the game though don't really mind it compared to other people... all that is fine and dandy but what affects me is the chat window not showing up :( But so far I see no reason to complain. Keep up the good work DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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