drMightyPotato Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Here is a bit of number heaven with valkyr, steel charge aura, maxed out dual ichors and hysteria. I do love them crits! Enjoy. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanjuju Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I'm sort of impressed. I've never gotten the ichors to work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticVice777 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) Now juice up that combo with Volt's Speed... P.S. What's your current optimized Dual Ichors build? Edited February 18, 2014 by ChaoticVice777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedant Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 What do you have on your Ichors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpilockT_T Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I still hate her ulti even though that kind of number shows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drMightyPotato Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Acctualy they have one slot left but thats only cause i dont have anything to put there and im too lazy to forma them -_- but here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticVice777 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) Acctualy they have one slot left but thats only cause i dont have anything to put there and im too lazy to forma them -_- but here. Thanks for the screenshots. I gave up Berserker for a maxed Focus Energy and added on a maxed Virulent Scourge, which makes my Corrosive damage go up to 246, but I obviously don't have the attack speed bonus. Then again, that's why I have Build B, which removes Spoiled Strike and keeps the maxed Focus Energy for a Berserker and Fever Strike. Maximum damage versus maximum speed. That 20+% attack speed and the damage (246 versus 134 Corrosive) difference are significant. Edited February 18, 2014 by ChaoticVice777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 If you're building for Hysteria, last I heard elemental mods don't matter. You'd want Pressure Point, Berserker, Spoiled Strike, True Steel, Organ Shatter, and nothing else matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakmonster Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 If you're building for Hysteria, last I heard elemental mods don't matter. You'd want Pressure Point, Berserker, Spoiled Strike, True Steel, Organ Shatter, and nothing else matters. I know there's a post where someone breaks down exactly what mods work in Hysteria, but I can't seem to find it. Any idea if Fury, Second Wind, Finishing Touch or Reach are applied in Hysteria? Also, what about the I/P/S specific mods - Jagged Edge, Piercing Strike and Heavy Trauma? Since Hysteria does purely I/P/S damage, would that carry over as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marthrym Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Also, what about the I/P/S specific mods - Jagged Edge, Piercing Strike and Heavy Trauma? Since Hysteria does purely I/P/S damage, would that carry over as well? Excellent question, I'd like to know if they affect her ult's damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeGreymane Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) Still need a zorencopter on hysteria, why take louder glove's animation when your stuck at melee... :( Edited February 18, 2014 by ZeGreymane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrionn Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I know there's a post where someone breaks down exactly what mods work in Hysteria, but I can't seem to find it. Any idea if Fury, Second Wind, Finishing Touch or Reach are applied in Hysteria? Also, what about the I/P/S specific mods - Jagged Edge, Piercing Strike and Heavy Trauma? Since Hysteria does purely I/P/S damage, would that carry over as well? https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/134007-warframe-powers-post-u12/?p=2049938 and https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/134007-warframe-powers-post-u12/?p=2051215 Now sorry to kill the euphoria but if crits were less impressive before U12, they were more common. And I can't see the fact of having this single target damage while wearing Dual Ichor (god it's so ugly...) only is nice. Your screenshots won't get her out of the shelf I left her... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutionZero Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I have the exact same build, and my damage is not very consistent, although sometimes a big number will pop up Imo 4k+ is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celseus Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) And Valkyr gets to be immune to damage while Hysteria happens! Edited February 18, 2014 by Celseus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrionn Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) I have the exact same build, and my damage is not very consistent, although sometimes a big number will pop up Imo 4k+ is good. It seems that Hysteria's claws tend to do some headshots once in a while, that's where the big numbers come from I guess. And 4k+ is good doesn't mean anything dude, it's 4k+ with a single weapon and a single type of build. If DE intended us to play Valkyr with Dual Ichor only then they shouldn't give her a melee weapon slot. People were complaining about being stuck with the sloppy claws animation and asked for their melee weapon to be available but DE didn't get the message the right way. They kept the claws and even added the handicap of having a specific melee weapon build to have the same damage than they used to have... Please don't comfort them in this way by saying this is right, Valkyr isn't a that OP frame to have to be the single frame stuck with three specific weapons in order to make her ult deal decent (this can be discussed...) damages. Edited February 18, 2014 by Cyrionn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsycloneM Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 The "81510" damage values are most likely caused by hitting a leaper in the middle of its attack (they take 10x damage during this time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrornaut Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Definitely not happy with the change to Hysteria. Yeah, she does more damage in some cases...but this forces us to use a very narrow selection of melee weapons when I could bring a favorite weapon along and then just make sure hysteria was buffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakmonster Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/134007-warframe-powers-post-u12/?p=2049938 and https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/134007-warframe-powers-post-u12/?p=2051215 Now sorry to kill the euphoria but if crits were less impressive before U12, they were more common. And I can't see the fact of having this single target damage while wearing Dual Ichor (god it's so ugly...) only is nice. Your screenshots won't get her out of the shelf I left her... Thanks for this. I need to do some testing for myself to see if Second Wind works in Hysteria and Fang Prime interactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptWasea Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 mmmh... 8K crits are good if they happen often. But 4k... I got them with a level 10 Bo equipped: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drMightyPotato Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Definitely not happy with the change to Hysteria. Yeah, she does more damage in some cases...but this forces us to use a very narrow selection of melee weapons when I could bring a favorite weapon along and then just make sure hysteria was buffed. Not rly, i can take my dakra prime and have consistent damage of about 4k and 7k crit. Doesnt scale as well tho. I think that only charge weapons might negatively effect your damage in a way that you wouldnt hit for much. All in all the buff of hysteria is something i wanted DE to do since valkyr came out their shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrionn Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Not rly, i can take my dakra prime and have consistent damage of about 4k and 7k crit. Doesnt scale as well tho. I think that only charge weapons might negatively effect your damage in a way that you wouldnt hit for much. All in all the buff of hysteria is something i wanted DE to do since valkyr came out their shop. Well I tried with Orthos Prime and using crit mods to make Hysteria hit harder (crit mods on orthos p :s...). It does damage, but before U12 using full Blind Rage and Focus was more efficient, whatever the weapon you were holding. I'll use PsycloneM comparison just to show what I mean : Hysteria pre-U12, Focus + Blind Rage + Steel Charge:100 x 1.75 x 2.29 x 1.18 x 3 = 1419 total damage before resistances ( 2837 / 5675 damage crits ) Current Hysteria, Jat Kittag w/ Focus + Blind Rage + Steel Charge + Pressure Point + Spoiled Strike + Organ Shatter: 3 x [ 100 + ( 1.75 / 3 ) x 80 x 2.29 x ( 1.55 + 2.2 ) ] = 1502 total damage before resistances ( 4281 / 8563 damage crits ) Current Hysteria, Orthos Prime w/ Focus + Blind Rage + Steel Charge + Pressure Point + Spoiled Strike + Organ Shatter: 3 x [ 100 + ( 1.75 / 3 ) x 2.29 x 60 x ( 1.4 + 2.2 ) ] = 1166 damage before resistances (3322 / 6644 damage criticals). So by just seeing the numbers you would think Jam kitkat or any high base damage weapons are stronger than old Hysteria, but don't forget about the crit chances... Old Hysteria used to have 50% critical chances, your Orthos P, Dakra P or Jam Kitkat will only have 8% with a full ranked True Steel. So you may see nice crits, nicer than they used to be but don't get fooled, Valkyr has been nerfed, at least handicaped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdBazokatone Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdollomega Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Are red crits still around in damage 2.0? If so, just about any good charge weapon + Loki or Ash beats that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drMightyPotato Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Are red crits still around in damage 2.0? If so, just about any good charge weapon + Loki or Ash beats that. As far as i know the red crits have been removed. However you need to take into consideration that Loki and Ash have a HUGE increase with melee damage while invisible while Valkyr has almost nothing. Furthermore what im trying to prove with these pics is that Valkyr is very much usable with her new hysteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcealedInsanity Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Acctualy they have one slot left but thats only cause i dont have anything to put there and im too lazy to forma them -_- but here. I have the same build....why can't i get those dmg? i got maxed focus and maxed blind rage.....why can't i get those dmg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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