Brimir Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 Perhaps a total rework is in order. Though, seeing how that worked out for Ember (and Frost's Snowglobe...)... hmm... maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPandemonium Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) Nova exists, this is a backburner issue. Perhaps a total rework is in order. Though, seeing how that worked out for Ember (and Frost's Snowglobe...)... hmm... maybe not. Ember is better now than she was before, Accelerant is a fantastic ability. Edited March 8, 2014 by RealPandemonium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leuca Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Nova exists, this is a backburner issue. Nova is inherently problematic? She's the perfect example of a glass cannon that actually makes an attempt to scale with enemies. There are not a lot of frames/abilities that accomplish this short of a few abilities on Mag/Nyx/Loki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalu__Ka Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Just remove the "feature" of doing self damage when blessing is enabled. Should be an easy enough of a fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPandemonium Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) Nova is inherently problematic? She's the perfect example of a glass cannon that actually makes an attempt to scale with enemies. There are not a lot of frames/abilities that accomplish this short of a few abilities on Mag/Nyx/Loki. Nova is not a glass cannon, she has below average shield values but has 65 armor vs most of her 225 energy counterparts which have 15. She's also fast and has a powerful debuff to protect her (assuming it doesn't kill everything instantly anyway). Ember currently scales well due to Accelerant yet people think she sucks because they don't understand how the game works. Nova has pretty much no downside. Mprime is the best ability in the game many times over with tremendous range, powerful crowd control, crazy, scaling damage, AND 2x damage amp that applies to her whole team. Wormhole is a powerful mobility move that makes Nova even safer and, once again, benefits her whole team. Antimatter Drop has a cheap cost, long range, tremendous damage potential and can readily be boosted by Mprime to double its already tremendous damage. Null Star is a fair ability that provides small increments of damage at a cheap cost when compared to other damage skills. Every ability she has is above average or downright amazing. 75 lower shield than the default of 300 is an insignificant tradeoff for her tremendous advantages. The closest thing to a glass (cannon?) in this game is Banshee with her long cast animations, low damage, and low armor. Edited March 8, 2014 by RealPandemonium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bl4ckhunter Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 seems that as always the problem is blessing, however i'm confident that it will see a fix after frost becomes playable again as de seems intent to remove all duration based invulnerability abilities (snowglobe, ember's old damage reduction, old iron skin). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leuca Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Nova is not a glass cannon, she has below average shield values but has 65 armor vs most of her 225 energy counterparts which have 15. She's also fast and has a powerful debuff to protect her (assuming it doesn't kill everything instantly anyway). Ember currently scales well due to Accelerant yet people think she sucks because they don't understand how the game works. Nova has pretty much no downside. Mprime is the best ability in the game many times over with tremendous range, powerful crowd control, crazy, scaling damage, AND 2x damage amp that applies to her whole team. Wormhole is a powerful mobility move that makes Nova even safer and, once again, benefits her whole team. Antimatter Drop has a cheap cost, long range, tremendous damage potential and can readily be boosted by Mprime to double its already tremendous damage. Null Star is a fair ability that provides small increments of damage at a cheap cost when compared to other damage skills. Every ability she has is above average or downright amazing. 75 lower shield than the default of 300 is an insignificant tradeoff for her tremendous advantages. The closest thing to a glass (cannon?) in this game is Banshee with her long cast animations, low damage, and low armor. All you really did just now was explain why Nova is good, without actually giving a reason as to why she's problematic. Once you get to very high leveled enemies her scaling starts to even out rather than being blatantly overpowered. I think the only real issue I would have with her is the CC granted by MP, which sometimes seems excessive. As an fyi though, 65 armor is as good as 15 armor once enemies start to matter, so her lesser base shield is actually a significant penalty when compared to a frame like Mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)fenton_meiks Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 dont feed the troll Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroraSonicBoom Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 You mean linkbombing? Yeah that's on the same level of trivializing game content than mprime. Fix is also pretty easy, as you pointed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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