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MiasmaGrowlmon

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druul

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Hello USAF_Growlmon,

          I am the Warlord for LagWave50 (We are a ghost clan)  Now ask me again, why I tax in the first place? Why I should conform to your ideology of what is the expected % I and all should follow? We who own the rails are not asking "you" to run our rails, we ask "you" to understand what it took, especially the small of smallest clans and alliances, just trying to succeed in the tier 1 planets. BTW, I appreciate Eclipse for knowing this and stating they will leave low level planets to clans and alliances like myself. 

          We are fully aware that we can be swallowed up at any time by any contesting clans/alliances. Be aware I paid a price in competing in the Dark Sector Battles[resources, time, credits, other peoples credits(Thanx- Sektor2001)] Personnally having my name involved in this post is quite flattering. But know this, We won this rail twice on not just my good looks alone. LagWave50 would like to thank all who supported us in the past and hopefully in the future.

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ENDER357

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its so sad to see ignorant people complaining about eclipse

 

they have 8 rails

 

 

8

 

4 of which are under attack or are going to be under attack within the next day

 

they set the taxes higher than the rest because they have 50k battle pay

 

 

and yet you peons still complain that they have more than you?

 

 

are you really so pathetic as to covet what is not yours?

 

fking socialists

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Hello USAF_Growlmon,

          I am the Warlord for LagWave50 (We are a ghost clan)  Now ask me again, why I tax in the first place? Why I should conform to your ideology of what is the expected % I and all should follow? We who own the rails are not asking "you" to run our rails, we ask "you" to understand what it took, especially the small of smallest clans and alliances, just trying to succeed in the tier 1 planets. BTW, I appreciate Eclipse for knowing this and stating they will leave low level planets to clans and alliances like myself. 

          We are fully aware that we can be swallowed up at any time by any contesting clans/alliances. Be aware I paid a price in competing in the Dark Sector Battles[resources, time, credits, other peoples credits(Thanx- Sector2001)] Personnel having my name involved in this post is quite flattering. But know this, We won this rail twice on not just my good looks alone. LagWave50 would like to thank all who supported us in the past and hopefully in the future.

Congratulations on using virtual resources to keep a node under ridiculous taxes so it's not viable to play. You expect me to take pity because you can throw virtual money and virtual resources around?

 

Regardless I don't care much about you, it's just that nodes shouldn't have stupid taxes on them as it just takes from the players. For the players that need a quick boost of credits, play some void missions.  

 

I'm just trying to run a thread to help ALL PLAYERS find dark sector nodes for the reason they are here: additional affinity, credits, and resources. Clans/Alliances with high tribute rates sap players of those and it's beyond ridiculous.

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Lizzardtong

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Aren't you 6 pages late? Any thread on this forum gets interesting. Look at the Trinity threads especially.

let's say my priorities are a bit...wired

 

and don't worry, i did read the pages...it just started to interest me now

 

as i said...i am a bit wired

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Congratulations on using virtual resources to keep a node under ridiculous taxes so it's not viable to play. You expect me to take pity because you can throw virtual money and virtual resources around?

 

Regardless I don't care much about you, it's just that nodes shouldn't have stupid taxes on them as it just takes from the players. For the players that need a quick boost of credits, play some void missions.  

 

I'm just trying to run a thread to help ALL PLAYERS find dark sector nodes for the reason they are here: additional affinity, credits, and resources. Clans/Alliances with high tribute rates sap players of those and it's beyond ridiculous.

I'm just going to quote someone elses post from a different thread that rebuts your nonsense, though it's a bit more specific to Eclipse.

 

 
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Neon_Angel, on 27 Apr 2014 - 10:17 PM, said:
 

I'm not part of Eclipse, but i will always support them. Wanna know why? Here's a list of all arguments presented against Eclipse, and their absolute rebuttal:

 

B-But Eclipse puts 25% taxes on missions! They're greedy and ebil! How can you not hate them?

 

Let's not forget that it costs between 10 to 20 million credits to repair the solar rails (that already cost them a lot to craft). The same solar rails that will be under constant attack even if Eclipse puts it as 0%. Doubt it? Check all the other planets - all 0% Tax clans are under constant assault. They will not have the money to repair their rail, and eventually they will fall. Another fool clan will take over, 0% taxes again, and then the cycle goes on and on.

 

0% is fair! I rather donate millions of credits to keep them alive than support the eeeevil Eclipse!

 

The problem is that you cannot trade credits. How would you donate millions of creds then, mister Smartypants? Besides, having to pay 15 million credits may not be trouble for some of you high-rollers, but let's not forget they have to pay that every three days or so. Still feel like donating? Wait up, i got an idea then: How about instead of paying them 15,000,000 credits, you pay them much less (so you don't go poor). And instead of giving it out all at once, pay them bit by bit - It's not fair to pay that much if you haven't used the Dark Sector is it? So how about you donate them a little bit, every time you use the mission? Would that be fair for you? What if... the donation was 25% of your mission reward? Heheheheeh.

 

 

Even with all the absurd Solar Rail repair costs, they're still making more money than spending! Eeebil!

 

Because repair costs are just half of their trouble - their main credit sink is their battle pay. We have seen before, missions where they have handed out almost 20 million credits in total as battle-pay for some planets. Sum that up with the solar rail costs, and you'll have an idea of how much money Eclipse has to make in order to survive. And if they don't? Either another clan takes over using the same strategy (and we get threads like these against them), or we get the 0% tax fools. And you have learned what happens to them up there. 

And what if they're making more money than they're spending? There's no way to remove money from the Clan Vault. The treasurer is staring right now at all those millions coming and going, and not even a single credit will go to his wallet. How can you say they're greedy, if they're not allowed to even use the money? Dojo costs hardly use credits.

 

Okay... so they're not greedy. But they're ebil because they want to take over the solar system!

 

And? Nothing wrong with that. Saving the rest of the Dark Sectors from their 0% tax-clan-graveyards. 

Remember: Eclipse is not greedy and evil. They're honest and ambitious. I'm not part of that clan, but i assure you that the 25% is unfortunately the necessary to survive. Perhaps if you mr. Smartypants-Prime stopped attacking them, they wouldn't have a reason to have such high taxes (since they wouldn't have to repair/pay battle rewards).

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greed is a two way street. isn't it also greedy for keeping everything to yourself instead of sharing a small portion of it? people are all up in arms demanding ceos pay more taxes when here in warframe, some people are the total opposite.

with the taxes, eclipse has been able to shell out an average 10k battle pay back to the player base for thousands of tickets. i don't see how you can call that greedy. if the battle pay is extremely small then ya you have a point but thats not what is happening.

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Congratulations on using virtual resources to keep a node under ridiculous taxes so it's not viable to play. You expect me to take pity because you can throw virtual money and virtual resources around?

 

Regardless I don't care much about you, it's just that nodes shouldn't have stupid taxes on them as it just takes from the players. For the players that need a quick boost of credits, play some void missions.  

 

I'm just trying to run a thread to help ALL PLAYERS find dark sector nodes for the reason they are here: additional affinity, credits, and resources. Clans/Alliances with high tribute rates sap players of those and it's beyond ridiculous.

 

You -started- this thread with good intentions, but you have allowed it to quickly devolve into yet another needless bashing thread.  You started this thread, you are responsible for it.

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MiasmaGrowlmon

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You -started- this thread with good intentions, but you have allowed it to quickly devolve into yet another needless bashing thread.  You started this thread, you are responsible for it.

I'm going to keep the OP updated, but I'm not going to give a care about keeping professional with stupid comments like that. I still have good intentions, but I can't lie, this forum is full of chaos and stupidity, and it's mildly entertaining. 

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Congratulations on using virtual resources to keep a node under ridiculous taxes so it's not viable to play. You expect me to take pity because you can throw virtual money and virtual resources around?

 

Regardless I don't care much about you, it's just that nodes shouldn't have stupid taxes on them as it just takes from the players. For the players that need a quick boost of credits, play some void missions.  

 

I'm just trying to run a thread to help ALL PLAYERS find dark sector nodes for the reason they are here: additional affinity, credits, and resources. Clans/Alliances with high tribute rates sap players of those and it's beyond ridiculous.

um.. I think you've contradicted yourself there, sir

 

I agree that if a player wants some quick credits, the place to go is the void. (or dark sector conflicts involving eclipse, apparently) but then you say that dark sectors are for affinity (true), credits (contradiction), and resources (also true)

 

I also agree with you that any alliance that sets a resource tax is greedy. but as for credit taxes, I really can't blame them. rails and battlepay take credits to maintain. until DE lets alliances set battlepay to something other than credits, there's no reason for an alliance to set a resource tax. credit taxes maintain the rail and are recirculated as battlepay. if someone really wanted to investigate which alliances are the greedy ones, you should compare their credit taxes and their battlepay. 25% credit tax isn't too bad, you still come out with a fair amount of credits from a mission, but eclipse also pays that back with their generous battelpay

 

but let's return for a second, you said players should go to void for credits, then you said that one of the main reasons players use dark sectors is for credits. the void is much better for credits. as long as a clan isn't taxing your resources or your affinity, then I think they're alright (50% credit tax would be pretty greedy, though. to set some limit)

 

someone made a comment earlier that the money has to come form somewhere. it comes from eclipse's players. they don't get the battlepay, and apparently the alliance members have higher credit taxes on those nodes than the rest of the player base. but they stick to their guns regardless. only to be hated by the ignorant and jealous

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If Eclipse wasn't taking in more than they were giving out, they wouldn't be doing what they are doing. Someone is losing money, and it's not Eclipse.

 

The only people losing money are the ones offering a 0% tax rate rail. Even with 25% credit tax rate you are still earning way more credits than you would in a normal mission, and you are still gaining money unless the tax rate is over 100%.

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Sechura, Pluto - Shadows Of Vengeance

 

Seriously, thank you guys for keeping 0% tax going.  I'll fight for you guys whenever you need it.  

 

Unfortunately eclipse wants that rail now. Looks like they are expanding.

I shall fight for Shadows!

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Unfortunately eclipse wants that rail now. Looks like they are expanding.

I shall fight for Shadows!

Good for you, may your battle be well fought. Be sure if you see my Specter to take a screen shot for me! :D

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You guys are gonna wait for groups like Eclipse to take 15-20 nodes to realize that you are enablers to a monopoly, then instead of fixing your own mistakes you'll go crying to DE...

8 out of 24 is way too much as it is. But whatever, Walmart shoppers are Walmart shoppers no matter if virtual or real life.

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Clan Ghost Bear has hung onto their free rail through several conflicts; so the 'Free rails will always fall' logic is flawed. It's not easy to keep a free rail going for sure, but it's clearly doable for some time.

Way to ignore the fact they have an alliance backing them up as well. Seriously dude not cool. I don't agree with the free tax nonsense, but they have been working their asses(as a group) off.

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Agreed, they're attacking that rail simply out of greed. I hope DE puts a limit on alliances to hinder these sort of actions.

OMG, Eclipse is doing what Dark Sectors are intended for!

They're sooo greedy!

This is exactly what DE had in mind when they designed this!

*gasps*

NERF THEM FOR PLAYING THE GAME, USING DARK SECTORS, THE WAY IT'S INTENDED!

/sarcasm

Geez, shut up already.

DE isn't going to put a limit just because you guys can't put a stop to them.

They're just playing the game. There aren't any rules to how many rails they can have. It's how you play the game.

Why don't you try to stop them rather than complain to DE askng them to nerf Eclipse?

=.=

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