Repligon Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) While I agree Blessing is definitely overpowered in the current state, upcoming fix is just bad for team play. Damage immunity based on amount of health healed is too one target directed and prompts selfish play. I can already see new trinities with Quick Thinking and Rage who will only care about maximizing their own damage immunity. Ok, one can say not the damage immunity is the point of blessing but heal and shield restore. But at this point it just overlaps with a well of life purpose. Yeah. Great work on current fix. Greeting to the new masochist trinities that will have to hurt themselves to maximise damage reduction. Quick Thinking + self damage = 99% damage reduction. The problem of old blessing is the possibility of permanent invincibility that "takes away the challenge". DE "fixed" the invincibility part. But as I can remember Blessing invincibility wasn't so overpowered because of its short duration and cost. It was before introduction of the corrupted mods that allowed the "permanent" part. So why do we "fixing" the symptom instead of aiming on its cause - spammability? So my suggestions: Blessing Old invincibility and heal are left as is. Change Blessing to a toggle skill that costs 25/50 energy to activate and then consumes the more energy per seconds the longer it active (to prevent permanent invincibility). Add a cooldown. Like 1/2 of the time Blessing was active. Well of life Since Trinity already has a heal skill (Blessing) Well of life becomes redundant. So why not give Trinity an another skill that fits her healer role? My idea: Trinity creates a curative aura around her that instantly revives 1/2/3/4 downed players in the range during power duration. It should have a very short duration. Like 1 or 2 seconds maxed. Can revive Trinity herself if she was downed during power duration. Edited May 15, 2014 by Repligon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeejayPwny Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I'm sorry, I'm just here to point out sujjestion. Not to keen on any changes past what we're getting tonight until we see what happens. She looks like she'll be in a good place currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadScream Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I like your idea on well of life, but I'm not totally sure your blessing would work, as much as it's still better than the current one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repligon Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) I like your idea on well of life, but I'm not totally sure your blessing would work, as much as it's still better than the current one... How is it better? With ever increasing power consumption and a cooldown you won't be able to keep it forever unlike the current one. Edited May 14, 2014 by Repligon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadScream Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 How is it better? With ever increasing power consumption and a cooldown you won't be able to keep it forever unlike the current one. That's what I say, it's better because it's not a god mode. Anything more complex to limit invulnerability skills is a good thing. Even Valkyr shouldn't be invulnerable on her ult' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fomiru Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Blessing Old invincibility and heal are left as is. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeejayPwny Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 No. For once we agree :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repligon Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) No. Because... Really. I want to know why some people hate temporary situational invincibility so much. Edited May 14, 2014 by Repligon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeejayPwny Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Because... Really. I want to know why some people hate temporary situational invincibility so much. Temporary... Situational.... Those words, I don't think they mean what you think they mean. Seriously, NO frame should be able to throw invincibility out with no downside. Sure, Valkyr has invuln, but at the cost of most of her combat effectiveness, and it's a solo buff, not a team. People need to accept that Trinity was not meant to be what she's being changed from and move on. In the long run, this change will HELP the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repligon Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share Posted May 15, 2014 Temporary... Situational.... Those words, I don't think they mean what you think they mean. Seriously, NO frame should be able to throw invincibility out with no downside. Sure, Valkyr has invuln, but at the cost of most of her combat effectiveness, and it's a solo buff, not a team. People need to accept that Trinity was not meant to be what she's being changed from and move on. In the long run, this change will HELP the game. All the warframe powers give you advantages without downsides. Iron skin adding you >1.5k hp, bastillie, vortex and tornados keeping enemies helpless, Lokis' permanent invisibility, Nyxs' chaos. Basically any warframe has this "power with no downside" I don't see how invincibility is any different. It only becomes overpowered when you can keep it forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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