Zappax Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) Just why, this is ridiculous.Not like the whole game is about grinding already. What's the next step? Removing the fun things? Like flying from wall jump? Oh wait that happened. Melee copter? Soon... Lets see if Zephyr and Hydroid duration builds last until the next patch... Edited July 21, 2014 by Zappax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not_Oliver Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 can I get some sort of proof/screenshots plox :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 75% is an oddly specific number. Where did you get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeerome0406 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I am unsure if it was just a mental thing, but we have no proof.I have also felt the definite slowdown of leveling weapons, sentinels, and etc. However, this is also due to not playing infested missions due to Ancients and mutalisk ospreys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappax Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 75% is an oddly specific number. Where did you get it? can I get some sort of proof/screenshots plox :) I am unsure if it was just a mental thing, but we have no proof. I have also felt the definite slowdown of leveling weapons, sentinels, and etc. However, this is also due to not playing infested missions due to Ancients and mutalisk ospreys. Just checked Sechura. Pluto Dark Sector Defense map. Before update the leaders used to give around 4-5k XP. Not only about 1200... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utarious Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Really? I feel XP gain has been increased, no matter what I can pick up a level and a half from a T2 Exterm, something I could not do pre-u14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Just checked Sechura. Pluto Dark Sector Defense map. Before update the leaders used to give around 4-5k XP. Not only about 1200... In that case this seems limited to only Leaders and not XP in general as your Topic seems to imply. Maybe edit to prevent the confusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishki88 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Get ready for the Focus System Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappax Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 In that case this seems limited to only Leaders and not XP in general as your Topic seems to imply. Maybe edit to prevent the confusion? Leaders dont appear that much, the other infested gives the rest of the xp. 10 waves and a half level for a level 16 karak? Thats not just the leader xp reward but all others. Also as i saw from kubrow farm, the affinity orb drops are now have higher chance. It's like they're trying to force us to loot everything possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cythphn Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I think Eximus type enemies were changed, so that they all give the same xp as a heavy unit (Tech/Grineer Heavy) of their own level would. It's a good thing for the lancers and crewmen, and a bad thing for all the infested, heavy units and MOAs. I was actually pleasantly surprised with the change, because I play Corpus survival missions a lot. Nothing else has changed as far as I know, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeerome0406 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I confirm the leader issue. He's right, before a leader in a dark sector would give around 11000-12000 exp, and this is with my affinity booster. Now its no where near that amount, I feel for those who donr have a booster, leveling must be silly slow right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inversus Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I found I was leveling a little slower after the update, but 75%..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnyxAlchemyst Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I think Eximus type enemies were changed, so that they all give the same xp as a heavy unit (Tech/Grineer Heavy) of their own level would. It's a good thing for the lancers and crewmen, and a bad thing for all the infested, heavy units and MOAs. I was actually pleasantly surprised with the change, because I play Corpus survival missions a lot. Nothing else has changed as far as I know, though. I agree, eximus units do not drop any extra exp anymore from what I see. Otherwise, exp drops seem to be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS- Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I found I was leveling a little slower after the update, but 75%..? Yeah it does in fact feel as if XP gain has been reduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9tailboy Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) DE already exclaimed that EXP gain will be a lot harder than before many months back, and they were right, with dark sectors and being able to unequip weapons and sentinels, players are earning EXP in hours, and its gonna break the game, warframe is based on progression, if we progress too quickly, DE will have to rush to bring new items to players in order for us to have fun and a good, and you guys see what happened to us in U14 release, many many bugs, and we were training so hard we needed that U14 release to come now, bringing on the stress to DE, so yea, DE definitely debuffed EXP gain way back in Mid Update 13. HOWEVER! EXP gain is still very quick, I can get a regular weapon leveled up to rank 30 in a day or in 4 hours, and a warframe can easily get to 30 in at most 2 weeks or lower, it is not hard to level guys, I prefer sechura pluto, or maybe you can do some quick and easy kubrow mod farming, they drop out tons of affinities, so leveling is like doing 10 min on a survival mission. Now about the eximus excuse, people think that each eximus gives out the same amount of EXP, idk when this occured but its still the same for me. Eximus grants 5x the amount of XP its original version does. So an eximus lancer grants 348 EXP or around that range, thats about 3-5 times the original EXP gain of a lancer, which is 70-90. You guys either can't recognize the eximus or just don't have much luck finding them. *update* Oops, I didn't notice how eximus use to give out that "much" xp, yea, thats true, but then again, it would make the game unbalanced, and DE said they wouldn't reduce EXP gain, they only reduced the EXP bonus gain. Edited July 21, 2014 by 9tailboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappax Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Tell me if i'm wrong but if something is harder to kill or makes it harder to kill, the death of it should be more rewarding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ElZilcho Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Reduced XP sounds like a bad choice. It was already a grind, one that players repeated several times per weapon and frame to use forma. It doesn't need to be longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Just why, this is ridiculous.Not like the whole game is about grinding already. What's the next step? Removing the fun things? Like flying from wall jump? Oh wait that happened. Melee copter? Soon... Lets see if Zephyr and Hydroid duration builds last until the next patch... CTRL wall scaling and coptering have a huge part in making mobility mods obsoleted Theyre luxuries nonetheless but now a bit more worthwhile You could also you know..... Get creative with your parkour Ad on top of that youre overreacting along with many others to try to shock DE into making a change If youre going to make a point then make it If youre going to exaggerate it then your argument loses footing quickly DE already exclaimed that EXP gain will be a lot harder than before many months back, and they were right, with dark sectors and being able to unequip weapons and sentinels, players are earning EXP in hours, and its gonna break the game, warframe is based on progression, if we progress too quickly, DE will have to rush to bring new items to players in order for us to have fun and a good, and you guys see what happened to us in U14 release, many many bugs, and we were training so hard we needed that U14 release to come now, bringing on the stress to DE, so yea, DE definitely debuffed EXP gain way back in Mid Update 13. HOWEVER! EXP gain is still very quick, I can get a regular weapon leveled up to rank 30 in a day or in 4 hours, and a warframe can easily get to 30 in at most 2 weeks or lower, it is not hard to level guys, I prefer sechura pluto, or maybe you can do some quick and easy kubrow mod farming, they drop out tons of affinities, so leveling is like doing 10 min on a survival mission. Now about the eximus excuse, people think that each eximus gives out the same amount of EXP, idk when this occured but its still the same for me. Eximus grants 5x the amount of XP its original version does. So an eximus lancer grants 348 EXP or around that range, thats about 3-5 times the original EXP gain of a lancer, which is 70-90. You guys either can't recognize the eximus or just don't have much luck finding them. *update* Oops, I didn't notice how eximus use to give out that "much" xp, yea, thats true, but then again, it would make the game unbalanced, and DE said they wouldn't reduce EXP gain, they only reduced the EXP bonus gain. Idk about you but One good ODD gets frames really far Ever since dark sectors ODD is a it obsolete for EXP though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msxp123 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I have also noticed a big decrease in exp gain. and they also took out the wall grab and infinite wall run....which REALLY sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vunie Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 eximus xp got decreased it used to be like 4k to 7k now i mostly see 1200 or 700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappax Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) CTRL wall scaling and coptering have a huge part in making mobility mods obsoleted Theyre luxuries nonetheless but now a bit more worthwhile You could also you know..... Get creative with your parkour Ad on top of that youre overreacting along with many others to try to shock DE into making a change If youre going to make a point then make it If youre going to exaggerate it then your argument loses footing quickly Idk about you but One good ODD gets frames really far Ever since dark sectors ODD is a it obsolete for EXP though I'm not talking about how to cover a distance with parkour. I'm talking about FUN. Correct me if I'm wrong please, but as i claimed before, if something is harder to kill then it's death should be more rewarding. What's next? Bosses giving 80 exp like common mobs? Edited July 21, 2014 by Zappax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 "You could also you know..... Get creative with your parkour Ad on top of that youre overreacting along with many others to try to shock DE into making a change If youre going to make a point then make it If youre going to exaggerate it then your argument loses footing quickly" I'm not talking about how to cover a distance with parkour. I'm talking about FUN. Correct me if I'm wrong please, but as i claimed before, if something is harder to kill then it's death should be more rewarding. What's next? Bosses giving 80 exp like common mobs? It gives more than common enemies Theyre usually easier to kill than Heavy units unless they are heavy units with leader in which case they should give a bit more You really want the Shock eximus that you take out with 1/100th of the damage of a heavy grineer unit to give 5x the EXP? Speaking of EXP by the way 75% less is a bolt claim to make on the thread Misleading through shock value to make people immediately think EXP was heavily nerfed when it was just leader units Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire_Ashes Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 The eximus's have been reduced by 75% xp... I don't know about the other enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappax Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 It gives more than common enemies Theyre usually easier to kill than Heavy units unless they are heavy units with leader in which case they should give a bit more You really want the Shock eximus that you take out with 1/100th of the damage of a heavy grineer unit to give 5x the EXP? Speaking of EXP by the way 75% less is a bolt claim to make on the thread Misleading through shock value to make people immediately think EXP was heavily nerfed when it was just leader units Hmmm No. I want the poison aura mobs that you can't block at all just kill it hive more. I want the energy drain aura mobs that makes it pain in the &#! to be a warframe relying on energy give more. I want the shield recharge mobs give more. I want the elemental aura mobs that makes it nearly impossible to kill them if you are based on that specific element give more. I want the life leech mobs that deal the same damage but tanky as hell and heals itself give more. I want the fire blast mobs that can take down the whole team with one strike and open them up to be an easy kill give more. You made example out of the shock eximus, but that's not the only one. It's the weakest one, the one that doesnt even appear that much, but there are others that makes it a real pain in the &#! to survive if the poison drones didn't already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 No. I want the poison aura mobs that you can't block at all just kill it hive more. I want the energy drain aura mobs that makes it pain in the @$$ to be a warframe relying on energy give more. I want the shield recharge mobs give more. I want the elemental aura mobs that makes it nearly impossible to kill them if you are based on that specific element give more. I want the life leech mobs that deal the same damage but tanky as hell and heals itself give more. I want the fire blast mobs that can take down the whole team with one strike and open them up to be an easy kill give more. You made example out of the shock eximus, but that's not the only one. It's the weakest one, the one that doesnt even appear that much, but there are others that makes it a real pain in the @$$ to survive if the poison drones didn't already. Shield recharge mobs are the weakest They hardly do anything and are the elast threatening even in a crowd Shock eximus for corpus appears far more often than leech and tend to be more dangerous so idk where you get that example from And none of that changes your misleading title and OP looking for shock value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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