AdultHero Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 So lately I've been playing with the ammo artifacts a lot, and after a while I feel that having them on doesn't make much of a difference to the ammo drops. At all!?! Take my last game at Callisto. I had played to wave 15, but only found 3-4 sniper drops from waves 11-15! This is infested defence, where hundreds of mobs spawn, and you need several hits to take down Ancients, and this is might be all we get to support a sniper? I went from full ammo with a Paris at wave 11(with a maximum-rank max ammo mod attached) to a mere 23 ammo upon ending wave 15, with no sniper drops in sight. Now, my accuracy may be in question, and I do miss my fair amount of shots, but I like to think that I can shoot a big &#! Ancient in front of me in the head without missing. But yet there's still more to that story. So, I claimed my mod, afraid to go on any longer due to my supply of ammo being in the red (which is a big but separate issue for gameplay), exited, came to the squad lobby screen, glanced over my scores and then froze. Lo and behold what did I see we had 2 sniper scavenger artifacts on. Have you guys and girls had any similar experiences in your games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satori_Mind Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I was sure the scavenger artifacts increase the value of those ammo drops instead of making them more likely. I haven't noticed a difference in either case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raze_NZ Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Why not just take an upgraded 'ammo drum' mod with sniper ammo boxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varil Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Maybe instead of ammo drops, scavenger artifacts could give a small ammo regeneration effect? It'd have to be balanced separately for each weapon type(1 shot per second is useless to a rifle but could be great for a sniper), but it could make those artifacts really useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleesus Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I feel like the scavenger artifacts need a buff too. I play with the Paris also and have the exact same problem as you when I use that artifact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buj4h Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Scavenger Artifacts don't increase droprates, they just show you on your map (yellow points) where you can find Sniper Ammo (at least, that's what I could figure out so far). Correct me, If I'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerensiniac Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I was sure the scavenger artifacts increase the value of those ammo drops instead of making them more likely. I haven't noticed a difference in either case! And you are right. Scavenger mods increase the amount of bullets you pick up from ammo drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdultHero Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 I was sure the scavenger artifacts increase the value of those ammo drops instead of making them more likely. I haven't noticed a difference in either case! They don't, but that would be nice. Why not just take an upgraded 'ammo drum' mod with sniper ammo boxes? Please read more carefully and you will see that I did have Ammo Drum on and maxed out. Sure, you can gear up ammo boxes till your Tenno rolls over from the virtual weight of them, but that would fast turn into another credit sink. And surely, surely I should be able to get a fair amount of sniper drops from 5 waves of infested with 2 of my 4 precious artifact slots taken up by a scavenger artifact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdultHero Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) And you are right. Scavenger mods increase the amount of bullets you pick up from ammo drops. Do they really? Check again. Edited April 13, 2013 by AdultHero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixEXO Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) Do they really? Check again. And to re-iterate; normal Sniper ammo box pickup restores 10 ammo. Thus, it has to be more than 10 if you so claim it to be that it increases ammo pickup amount. Edited April 13, 2013 by matrixEXO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleesus Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 They dont increase the amount you get from each drop, it still only gives 10 sniper ammo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incunabulum Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 And you are right. Scavenger mods increase the amount of bullets you pick up from ammo drops. Well I have a pistol scavenger artifact ad I get +20 when picking up rifle ammo and +20 when picking up pistol ammo. I don't see a change in drop rates for pistol with it and it certainly doens't give me more ammo per pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcarusNine Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 How about some empirical evidence? https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/27109-pistol-scavenger/ It's not encouraging. Also, if you're using the Paris and have a maxed Ammo Drum mod, you're going to get, what, 27 more arrows (+30% of 90)? And that's all you'll get for the entire match. If you instead use those mod slots to do enough extra damage to kill 27 enemies in one hit instead of two, at any point, you'll have made up the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdultHero Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share Posted April 14, 2013 How about some empirical evidence? https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/27109-pistol-scavenger/ It's not encouraging. Also, if you're using the Paris and have a maxed Ammo Drum mod, you're going to get, what, 27 more arrows (+30% of 90)? And that's all you'll get for the entire match. If you instead use those mod slots to do enough extra damage to kill 27 enemies in one hit instead of two, at any point, you'll have made up the difference. Damage is not the point being discussed here. We are discussing the utter ineffectiveness of our ammo artifacts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValhaHazred Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I feel like more pistol ammo drops for me with a scavenger artifact, however I have no way of proving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xevious Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Yes, I have also felt like the Scavenger artifacts don't really do much, if not, anything at all for the respective ammo drop rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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