zelgaris Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 all im saying is, have the silencer have a radius that allows for them to be detected so you cant shoot if your too close etc... its a simple implementation Interesting. Anyway considering the "it's still good to hear even with the silencer" - see this and consider the areas, where we are moving around, working facilities, some mines, asteroid, there is a lot of ambient sound, no silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonboss Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Silencers arnt acctualy silent they make alot of noise still. It's a common missconception that they do, They are not like in COD where your undetectable look up some videos even on a small pistol it make a noise loud enough to be noticed. This. Also the term is Suppressor rather than silencer because of aforementioned reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonboss Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 WOW! Where did you get that? Self drawn? Deus ex human revolution concept art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyked Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) WOW! Where did you get that? Self drawn? Like dragonboss already said, DX:HR concepts. The weapon design in that game was fantastic. Look at that beauty of a sniper rifle: Then look at our Snipetron and weep. On the plus side, the Viper looks amazing. Edited April 15, 2013 by Psyked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyve Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I think the big point to me, is that the old option so far, as far as weaponry goes with a stealth strat, allows the use of melee weapons and the paris. with the use of a surpressor mod, skin, or whatever direction, it will allow people to use more weapons for stealthy play. maybe with the soon to be thrown weapons they can be used for this, personally im ok with that. I assume someone wont be able to carry as many throwing knifes as they could bullets for a side arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxCromatxX Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 hmmm a mod to where the more more it's upgraded, the more effective it is for stealth/noise reduction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhinoPrime Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Said like a true tenno. like a true tenno? Damit man they give you a sword for a reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhinoPrime Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Also the silencer in real life aint so silent i know this cause i've shot a rifle with one on(.22) sorta silent but more of a flash hinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelgaris Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 hmmm a mod to where the more more it's upgraded, the more effective it is for stealth/noise reduction? Personally I would hate a silencer, that works only sometimes - the "silence" should be there from the beginning, but there should be another kind of penalty to balance it out, for example the damage penalty I already suggested here. And when the silencer mod is completely upgraded, it can even provide a little damage boost. There is also the obvious penalty when used with anything else than Snipetron and Lex - the damaged output per one bullet is not big enough to instakill an enemy and thus enemy has to be hit several times. This can cause hitting the wall instead of enemy and that would emit a hit sound, which can be noticed by other. Also, if we didn't kill the enemy fast enough, he could shout out something about being under attack. There are lot of possibilities how to handle this. Right now, this can sound op, but that's a problem of how the stealth works currently. I managed to, on many occasion, kill enemy almost in front of other enemy with Paris, and the other completely ignored, as well as they ignore the dead bodies on ground :/ Also the silencer in real life aint so silent i know this cause i've shot a rifle with one on(.22) sorta silent but more of a flash hinder Already mentioned here, so one more time, guys - we know, that real silencers emits some kind of sound, but you are clearly forgetting, that this is sci-fi setting we are talking here, so there is no reason the technology shouldn't be advanced enough. Considered penalties would be added because of balance issues, not because "it doesn't work that way in current age". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whablaze Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Not only would this be a cool Idea but a reward for going a mission without setting off an alarm would be nice. I've done full missions stealth with my bow for fun but with no reward at the end what's the point other than to say you did it? A reward would be a nice update before getting a silencer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelgaris Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Not only would this be a cool Idea but a reward for going a mission without setting off an alarm would be nice. I've done full missions stealth with my bow for fun but with no reward at the end what's the point other than to say you did it? A reward would be a nice update before getting a silencer. Yeah, did the same - it's fun for a while, but in the end you find out that doing it the normal way is not only faster but you also get more credits/resources/affinity. It's a classic risk/reward scenario but missing the reward part :( But that is rather the issue with stealth than a possible silencer mod :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyfe3rX Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 (edited) About 1 month ago, Steve told me that they will eventually come up with SILENCER MOD No promises yet, but this will likely be a weapon stat (aka loudness) that some weapons have small values for and other can be modded to reduce... Edited April 16, 2013 by Zyfe3rX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelgaris Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Oh, good to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxCromatxX Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Personally I would hate a silencer, that works only sometimes - the "silence" should be there from the beginning, but there should be another kind of penalty to balance it out, for example the damage penalty I already suggested here. And when the silencer mod is completely upgraded, it can even provide a little damage boost. There is also the obvious penalty when used with anything else than Snipetron and Lex - the damaged output per one bullet is not big enough to instakill an enemy and thus enemy has to be hit several times. This can cause hitting the wall instead of enemy and that would emit a hit sound, which can be noticed by other. Also, if we didn't kill the enemy fast enough, he could shout out something about being under attack. There are lot of possibilities how to handle this. Right now, this can sound op, but that's a problem of how the stealth works currently. I managed to, on many occasion, kill enemy almost in front of other enemy with Paris, and the other completely ignored, as well as they ignore the dead bodies on ground :/ Already mentioned here, so one more time, guys - we know, that real silencers emits some kind of sound, but you are clearly forgetting, that this is sci-fi setting we are talking here, so there is no reason the technology shouldn't be advanced enough. Considered penalties would be added because of balance issues, not because "it doesn't work that way in current age". yeah, i like your idea better lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HvcTerr Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 No silencers please, it ruins the aesthetic, and they've already announced plans for things like throwing knives, which hopefully will be a stealthy secondary you can use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelgaris Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 No silencers please, it ruins the aesthetic, and they've already announced plans for things like throwing knives, which hopefully will be a stealthy secondary you can use. Fellow tenno, I have a bad news for you - there is a hidden poll running right now, and the silencer mod is currently at second place ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG3000 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Fellow tenno, I have a bad news for you - there is a hidden poll running right now, and the silencer mod is currently at second place ;) what's on the first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValhaHazred Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Bdahahahaha... YES of course... When they have the tech for intergalactic travel bows are the S#&$. Throw that crap out of the game plz. Actually considering how strong the Tenno appear to be a bow would be a highly effective weapon. They have the strength to drive a blade through the torso of a massive cyborg with what looks like half a foot of armor plate. The draw weight on the Paris must be rediculous, something like 45000 pounds may not be unreasonable. And that's before you factor in the electromagnetic acceleration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-Zura Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 No silencers please, it ruins the aesthetic, and they've already announced plans for things like throwing knives, which hopefully will be a stealthy secondary you can use. lol and if you dont hef enymore trowing knifes what will you do ?? use a Braton added a silencer or a braton whitout silencer ? dont say Paris thare are enough excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venarge Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 (edited) Fellow tenno, I have a bad news for you - there is a hidden poll running right now, and the silencer mod is currently at second place ;) Well and I have bad news for you. It didnt won..... Besides that. Why should they create silent weapons in the first place if every other weapon would be able to become a silent weapon as well. Doesnt make sense to me.... Edited April 21, 2013 by Venarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-Zura Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 Well and I have bad news for you. It didnt won..... Besides that. Why should they create silent weapons in the first place if every other weapon would be able to become a silent weapon as well. Doesnt make sense to me.... Q:Do you really like to run whit a BOW(for now)and charg and shoot ? While you hef a Braton-added whit a silencer? that shoots rapidly whit low damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simeo77 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 We have a "few" options for 'stealth' gameplay.... which is absolutely useless in online mode but in solo.... it opens up awesome new gameplay. I like online but what made me stick to this game are "SOLO MISSIONS" (please devs don't forget about this). Most maps are impossible to solo at low levels without stealth so the more stealth options the better. Silencer +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-Zura Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 We have a "few" options for 'stealth' gameplay.... which is absolutely useless in online mode but in solo.... it opens up awesome new gameplay. I like online but what made me stick to this game are "SOLO MISSIONS" (please devs don't forget about this). Most maps are impossible to solo at low levels without stealth so the more stealth options the better. Silencer +1 hey how about like adding a buttom like Online Private SOLO and Below Stealth(for ppl who want to go stealth whit ppl?)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simeo77 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 hey how about like adding a buttom like Online Private SOLO and Below Stealth(for ppl who want to go stealth whit ppl?)? Don't know what this post is insinuating but it really is near impossible to go stealth in online mode. Almost without fail somebody of the four will go charging ahead screaming and shooting. Stealth with people would be awesome but is near impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-Zura Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 Don't know what this post is insinuating but it really is near impossible to go stealth in online mode. Almost without fail somebody of the four will go charging ahead screaming and shooting. Stealth with people would be awesome but is near impossible. i tought about that... Stealth mode...whare ppl cant join in the Match but when all player gathered whit an option like going whit 2-3-4 player when the party is full no 1 can join in the progress even friends.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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