Azawarau Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) I have to say first that im absolutely in love with this weapon and have no idea why I had expected it to be another mastery fodder weapon but the moment i shot the Cestra i knew i had to get the dual version and forma it up So i did Now the issues come in Its clip holds 100 and it only has 210 ammo after that The reload time is very long (3.5 seconds....longest of all secondaries.5th longest in game) It has terrible recoil and equally terrible accuracy It has a small wind up time Because it fires so fast it also tend sot use ammo quickly and it misses rather often because of the spread, further adding to the ammo inefficiency The crit damage and chance are very low Status chance is very low Shots have a travel time Now despite all of this the Dual Cestra may be topping my favorite list (even over the stug) but my issue is simply... Why does this weapon get hammered so hard with about everything you can add to it while others that are more powerful see so little drawback? Its very sad to see an uncommon weapon get slapped so hard while better weapons are left untouched Not really sure whats best to be done in this case Edited November 9, 2014 by Azawarau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Momaw Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Why does this weapon get hammered so hard with about everything you can add to it while others that are more powerful see so little drawback Probably because they have higher DPS and almost double the ammo efficiency when compared to other dual machine pistols. Edited November 9, 2014 by Momaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Probably because they have higher DPS and almost the ammo efficiency when compared to other dual machine pistols. Its awesome when youre really face first but at 15 meters that spread and recoil..... It feels too heavy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Momaw Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Its awesome when youre really face first but at 15 meters that spread and recoil..... It feels too heavy And, again: Akzani: damage 13, base DPS 260 Afuris: damage 15, base DPS 300 Dual Cestra: damage 25, base DPS 312.5 Higher deeps and almost twice the ammo efficiency. And the longer reload time isn't even a thing either. The Akzani empty their mags in 5 seconds and reload in 2. Afuris empty in 3.5 seconds and reload in 2.8. Dual Cestras empty in 8 seconds and reload in 3.5. This puts their magsize to reload ratio just a hair behind the Akzani and well ahead of the Afuris. If you're worried about spread and recoil on these things, I suggest with complete sincerity that you are probably using the wrong weapons and you might be happier with something that is more precise. Try the Akstilleto. They have less burst damage but vastly superior accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Even with its DPS it isnt terribly accurate and finds ways to waste ammo when youre not close Im not saying its terribly bad here <Its quickly become one i want to use commonly But its being penalized more than any gun i can think of off the top of my head (Was it the supra that had the same issues?) While at the same time other things that are stronger dont have many if any downfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiceDead Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I love that gun as well. Slapped on that mod that reduces firing recoil and it's firing straight like a charm. It does hurt the DPS a bit, but I find it worth it because more rounds connect to the targets I am aiming at. The only real complaint I have is the ammo pool, but it doesn't really matter if I bring pistol scavenger and pistol ammo mutation. The ammo pool can be as large as it wants to be, but it will most likely never stay above 100 rounds for long at the rate these guns empty their chambers. I'm happy if I can reload and find 70 rounds in the mag. Not sure if that's a problem or not, but I am not really focusing on this gun to be my 'end all' gun, it's just a really fun sideproject I started forma'ing for the hell of it... Now if I want S#&$ done I bring LEX, and if I want to break any and all challenge I bring Marelok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 I love that gun as well. Slapped on that mod that reduces firing recoil and it's firing straight like a charm. It does hurt the DPS a bit, but I find it worth it because more rounds connect to the targets I am aiming at. The only real complaint I have is the ammo pool, but it doesn't really matter if I bring pistol scavenger and pistol ammo mutation. The ammo pool can be as large as it wants to be, but it will most likely never stay above 100 rounds for long at the rate these guns empty their chambers. I'm happy if I can reload and find 70 rounds in the mag. Not sure if that's a problem or not, but I am not really focusing on this gun to be my 'end all' gun, it's just a really fun sideproject I started forma'ing for the hell of it... Now if I want S#&$ done I bring LEX, and if I want to break any and all challenge I bring Marelok. I use that mod too Though the spray still gets me a bit Ive been using that corrupted damage mod that increases spread recently since its really already unable to focus on a target well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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