26K Dps Soma Prime! 3X Forma!

[Shehriazad]

Lel Synoid discussion even here...what good does you all that dps do if it's only theoretical dps that gets nerfed hard thanks to its base damage type, the fact that it's a beam  and the fact that it has a limited range. 

Some people....


Anyway....I'm actually happy about the Soma Prime...I was scared that it would receive an insane dps buff...but it only received one that is appropriate (again people, it's +20% physical damage boost...that is actually quite a bit).

[(PSN)theelix]

-snip-

Farmkros. 

[CaptainJohnson]

The Soma was incredibly powerful as it was. Adding 20+% DPS is more than a fair buff, I just wish they'd gone with a little more critical chance or damage over a pure physical damage buff.

 

Anyways, solid build OP, nice job forma'ing it and everything so quickly. Glad you're enjoying the weapon. I would take out Heavy Caliber in favor of Shred or Stormbringer, but that's up to personal preference. The Soma is great for headshots, so I find it counterproductive to put Heavy Cal on it. Shred is always a fun choice for spraying & praying, while adding a third element is good for DPS and helps round the build out. I like to use Viral + Electric, Magnetic + Toxic, Gas + Electric, and Corrosive + Cold as my three-element combos.

[ThePredicament]

Lel Synoid discussion even here...what good does you all that dps do if it's only theoretical dps that gets nerfed hard thanks to its base damage type, the fact that it's a beam  and the fact that it has a limited range.

It doesn't get nerfed hard. The only weakness is alloy and when facing alloy, it's better to build for Magnetic, Radiation, Viral. Aside, from that, when proccing (which it does often), it only has three things to choose from rather than three physicals and two combinations. Even with the 75% damage reduction it still has a ton of damage output.

[Sixty5]

what's wrong with dual stat mods ._.?

Nothing, but if you are going for a raw dps build, like op seems to be, they are inferior.

Arguably op's build is more optimal than a raw dps one, since combining crit Headshot with viral Procs is op as hell.

But regardless, any time someone posts a 'dps build' and runs dual stats over raw elements I cringe a little.

[-FrostByte-]

 

You said your build has 26k DPS, but i tried it on Warframe builder. And these are the stats:

64.19IMPACT

256.89PUNCTURE

321.08SLASH

770.61VIRAL (+)

12.87ACCURACY

1.90BULLETS

15.00FIRE RATE

8.4x|75.0%CRITICAL / BULLET

43.32%STATUS PROBABILITY

200MAGAZINE

3.00RELOAD

800.00AMMO

90%MULTISHOT

0.00AURA MOD DAMAGE

1412.77TOTAL DAMAGE

21191.55BURST DPS

17299.22SUSTAINED DPS

 

And my Soma build (Non-Prime[Yet])

42.48IMPACT

169.94PUNCTURE

212.42SLASH

764.71RADIATION (+)

382.36TOXIN

12.87ACCURACY

1.90BULLETS

15.00FIRE RATE

6.6x|75.0%CRITICAL / BULLET

12.86%STATUS PROBABILITY

100MAGAZINE

3.00RELOAD

540.00AMMO

90%MULTISHOT

0.00AURA MOD DAMAGE

1571.91TOTAL DAMAGE

23578.65BURST DPS

16261.14SUSTAINED DPS

 

 

 

not sure what you are trying to get at or how those numbers came to be, I might be wrong

 

but i just multiply all the damage by 8.4 then * 15

 

is that not what dps means :s?

[alif3]

Dont you think that more status would be better than just the extra 30% elemental damage mods?

[-FrostByte-]

Dont you think that more status would be better than just the extra 30% elemental damage mods?

 

my original build had more status because viral procs are op

[OkamiMilo]

oh.... i see..

[DarkLordX2]

not sure what you are trying to get at or how those numbers came to be, I might be wrong

 

but i just multiply all the damage by 8.4 then * 15

 

is that not what dps means :s?

Those are Burst DPS.

 

DPS are calculated basing on the Weapon Mag, Reload, Damage and Firerate.

Edited December 18, 2014 by DarkLordX2

[-FrostByte-]

Those are Burst DPS.

 

DPS are calculated basing on the Weapon Mag, Reload, Damage and Firerate.

 

so can i have the formula for the "dps"???

 

cuz im confused. dps stands for damage per second?

 

im beyond confused now, my meaning of dps has been twisted since the burning crusade (world of warcraft)?

 

Farmkros. 

 

what?

Edited December 19, 2014 by .DoG.

[Ishki88]

26k.

 

*Golf clap from a distance*

[-FrostByte-]

26k.

 

*Golf clap from a distance*

 

its 34k now i think

[_Azeizel]

The synoid version. It is getting some fame as the strongest sidearm in the game, and I fully agree. I'm not expecting a nerf, really, considering it was buffed from something and DE rarely goes back on things like that, plus it takes a while to get it non plat (not going to comment on platwise).

Tho it may be considered by some the strongest side arm in game, I disagree. Its rate of fire is too slow, magnetic is really only good for corpus and void, doesnt really have a late game effect that the marelok, brakk or even hikou prime have. 

[Rehero]

not sure what you are trying to get at or how those numbers came to be, I might be wrong

 

but i just multiply all the damage by 8.4 then * 15

 

is that not what dps means :s?

I am assuming you are multiplying by 8.4 for the crit? If so you are assuming that every shot is going to crit which is why your numbers are off.

[Ishki88]

its 34k now i think

*At a greater distance, golf claps*

[-FrostByte-]

Tho it may be considered by some the strongest side arm in game, I disagree. Its rate of fire is too slow, magnetic is really only good for corpus and void, doesnt really have a late game effect that the marelok, brakk or even hikou prime have. 

erm... it hits like a truck none the less

 

 

*At a greater distance, golf claps*

 

is this a complement or an insult ?

[xyLoneZ]

so can i have the formula for the "dps"???

 

cuz im confused. dps stands for damage per second?

 

im beyond confused now, my meaning of dps has been twisted since the burning crusade (world of warcraft)?

 

 

what?

Burst DPS is [damage_per_shot] * [magazine clip] / [the_time_it_takes_for_you_to_unload_your_whole_clip].

Sustained DPS is basically the same formula but with reload time added.

[Sixty5]

The Soma Prime is currently the king of sustained DPS.

 

Throw reload cancels into the mix and you make that number skyrocket.

 

And people want this gun buffed?

[Zygax]

http://goo.gl/Ns1ZgG -> Boltor Prime.

http://goo.gl/LspBWg -> Soma Prime. (Without punch trough, which the boltor already has.)

[Judgebanks]

Hammer shot sucks btw. Any Single Element mod adds more damage even at 100% crit.

Replace the Hammershot with Cryo Rounds, and replace the Cryo Rounds already equipped with a single electric element.

 

 

Also you #*($%%@ up your Forma, nice job.

 

Jesus, it's like these people haven't even played this game before.

[xyLoneZ]

Hammer shot sucks btw. Any Single Element mod adds more damage even at 100% crit.

Replace the Hammershot with Cryo Rounds, and replace the Cryo Rounds already equipped with a single electric element.

 

 

Also you #*($%%@ up your Forma, nice job.

 

Jesus, it's like these people haven't even played this game before.

If you factor in the armor multiplier (i.e Corrosive has +75% mult against Ferrite), HammerShot will do more.

[felinena]

result from web is 100 % damage output from soma prime? if yes. its wrong. couz soma prime only out put 75 %. with out critical . its like 

a toothpick is shoot to monster 

[Chorba]

result from web is 100 % damage output from soma prime? if yes. its wrong. couz soma prime only out put 75 %. with out critical . its like 

a toothpick is shoot to monster 

Your trolling needs refining. I'd advise you to look at past attempts at trolling.

 

 

ANYWAY

As part of that huge balance-weapons-for-DE-with-GAMS project, I can show you folks the best Soma Prime build for maximum sustained and burst DPS (global maximum for those criteria is the same) assuming you use only one +fire rate mod:

 

Split Chamber

Serration

Heavy Caliber

Vile Acceleration

(+90% elemental mod)

(other +90% elemental mod)

Point Strike

Vital Sense

 

You are free to use Speed Trigger over Vile for better ammo economy but lower DPS.

You are free to use Shred over Vile for that nice punch-through.

You are free to drop +fire rate mods (not advisable) for another elemental mod, which nets you better damage per shot but much worse

DPS.

 

And yes, Soma has about 10% better sustainable but Boltor Prime has 10% or so better burst DPS.

Pick your poison.

[Xentia-Damascus]

If you factor in the armor multiplier (i.e Corrosive has +75% mult against Ferrite), HammerShot will do more.

Im pretty sure that is false due to the fact, but it instead has to deal with the fact that you aren't always doing that 60% extra critical damage versus that constant extra 90% elemental damage you could have instead or that constant fire rate increase. Personally, I'd use shred over hammer shot simply for the punch through which will allow me to deal damage to multiple enemies at once effectively spiking up my damage done per second.